lgfualol Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Our 3 most creative players are albrighton mahrez and schlupp. Pearson had finally found a way to utilise all 3 effectively, yet at the first opportunity Ranieri goes 442. We kept clean sheet after clean sheet at the back end of the season. So why does Ranieri drop was? From last year it's clear to see that the combination of Huth was and Morgan works well. Why change something that works? Change for the sake of change? So it isnt working? I thought getting points was a good thing? It's been four games. Pearson took 30 games to get things right. Stop thinking the world will end after four games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 You've not addressed the said points. Are you happy with the change in formation and dropping of was? The change in formation hasn't done too badly so far - today was an aberration but the first three games were good performances, and as for Was - he's nearly 35 now; players tend to decline around here. I like him and would want him playing, but I don't see him in training every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank to be Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 His post is a little OTT. But surely you see the issue here. We are in our second PL season. Bournemouth are in their first. We should be 12 months ahead of them in terms of development and progression yet today we started with a negative formation with one isolated striker. We didn't threaten their goal until 70mins. We shouldn't be setting up to cancel out teams which, on paper, are inferior to us. When they got promoted is irrelevant. This isn't some computer game where player's stats go up every year. We were playing a confident premier league team away from home, a team who had smashed four goals past West Ham in their last game, and they were better than us in the first half. Better than us, but it took some dodgy defending and a spectacular overhead kick for them to score, and then we dominated the 2nd half and got a point. We're in the premier league. Away draws are good for teams aiming for the top six. They're certainly good enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stox259 Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 His post is a little OTT. But surely you see the issue here. We are in our second PL season. Bournemouth are in their first. We should be 12 months ahead of them in terms of development and progression yet today we started with a negative formation with one isolated striker. We didn't threaten their goal until 70mins. We shouldn't be setting up to cancel out teams which, on paper, are inferior to us. This would mean that last season when we drew with Everton that the result was because of Everton's inept play rather than our improved play in the premier league. We proved how tough promoted sides are to beat. In our first 6 games last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Going by the radio I was surprised it was just Vardy up front. But Reinari would have done more homework than me and obviously thought this would work better. Unfortunately the team did not gel as they have been doing in other games. The changes helped and they improved second half. Maybe for those complaing about City's tactics should reserve some praise for the opposition who gave us a tough competitive game. I am sure Rameiri is wise and experienced enough to do what he thinks needs doing for the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Mahrez could/should have had a goal early on, it was the tightest of offside decisions and could've gone either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 We were bottom of the league for six months under Pearson. We're unbeaten under ranieri. Let's wait and see shall we. Our record after five games under Pearson just over a year ago read DLDWW... Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONreborn Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Our record after five games under Pearson just over a year ago read DLDWW... Just sayin'. The games we played were also Everton, Chelsea, arsenal, United and Stoke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 The games we played were also Everton, Chelsea, arsenal, United and Stoke! But then we struggled big time against teams we are taking points off now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImBlue Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Our record after five games under Pearson just over a year ago read DLDWW... Just sayin'. Let's have this debate at Christmas shall we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 The important thing is being unbeaten and having more points than the bottom three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueharmie Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Stupid thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmeh Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 It's almost as if people think Shakespeare and Philips have no input into anything. Ranieri would have spoke to them before this game and decided to set up this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImBlue Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 It's almost as if people think Shakespeare and Philips have no input into anything. Ranieri would have spoke to them before this game and decided to set up this way. Stop that! You can only praise 'Pearsons' back room staff when we get a good result to take the credit away from Ranieri. If we have a bad one it's all Ranieri! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishOxide Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 This would mean that last season when we drew with Everton that the result was because of Everton's inept play rather than our improved play in the premier league. We proved how tough promoted sides are to beat. In our first 6 games last year I can't speak for Everton. I don't know how they prepared for us. We may have gotten a result against their strongest lineup/formation. I do know that today 4-5-1 is not our strongest formation, there are 2 or 3 different setups that we know are stronger for us. If this game had played out this way today and we had started from the offset at 4-4-2 or 3-4-1-2 then I would have no issue with it and say fair play. When they got promoted is irrelevant. This isn't some computer game where player's stats go up every year. We were playing a confident premier league team away from home, a team who had smashed four goals past West Ham in their last game, and they were better than us in the first half. Better than us, but it took some dodgy defending and a spectacular overhead kick for them to score, and then we dominated the 2nd half and got a point. We're in the premier league. Away draws are good for teams aiming for the top six. They're certainly good enough for us. No its not irrelivant at all. We learned these lessons last season so we shouldn't be repeating them. We are not aiming for top 6, we need to be beating the teams around us. Bournemouth will be one of those teams and today was a wasted opportunity, the fact that Ranieri adjusted the shape at half time would suggest that he agrees with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 I can't speak for Everton. I don't know how they prepared for us. We may have gotten a result against their strongest lineup/formation. I do know that today 4-5-1 is not our strongest formation, there are 2 or 3 different setups that we know are stronger for us. If this game had played out this way today and we had started from the offset at 4-4-2 or 3-4-1-2 then I would have no issue with it and say fair play. No its not irrelivant at all. We learned these lessons last season so we shouldn't be repeating them. We are not aiming for top 6, we need to be beating the teams around us. Bournemouth will be one of those teams and today was a wasted opportunity, the fact that Ranieri adjusted the shape at half time would suggest that he agrees with that. Beat Bournemouth at home, at that'll be 4 points taken from a team that might be a rival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Let's have this debate at Christmas shall we. It merely proves that you can twist and turn stats according to your own needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Every season is different so new lessons are learned not the same ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImBlue Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 It merely proves that you can twist and turn stats according to your own needs. Ok, end of the season. can't manipulate that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Can't be bothered to read this thread. But what a fantastic turn around in the second half - great work from the manager. So good to have a manager that changes something at half time rather than taking half a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Ok, end of the season. can't manipulate that! Welcome to my world. I said the same last season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Can't wait til we play Man city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONreborn Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Can't be bothered to read this thread. But what a fantastic turn around in the second half - great work from the manager. So good to have a manager that changes something at half time rather than taking half a season. This is so disrespectful. It's only been 4 games compared to nigh on 5 years of success. At the moment the jury is still out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 This is so disrespectful. It's only been 4 games compared to nigh on 5 years of success. At the moment the jury is still out Correct, the jury is still out - so why have you already decided he's guilty and set about the sentencing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONreborn Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Correct, the jury is still out - so why have you already decided he's guilty and set about the sentencing? Like Thracian said, If Ranieri decided to start actually attacking teams, and the type of shackle free football we played from April onwards then I will back him. But he has retreated to the type of shit we used to play before Pearson. Like the sven and levein 451's Ranieri shouldn't try to fix something that's not broken. We have dropped 4 points in the last 2 games because of the manager IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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