Guest MattP Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 Trump should stand in India Singh his Muslim policies would be a huge vote winner.
stripeyfox Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 Surely even Americans aren't dumb enough to elect this cretin? Oh, hang on.....
Dr The Singh Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 Trump should stand in India Singh his Muslim policies would be a huge vote winner. Naa Trumpnis well too liberal and not hard-line, racist, sexist, anti gay, anti minority to win any votes in IndiA Trust me, they have plenty of MP's that are far worse then Trump. At least the US have only one conservative type party, all of IndiA's parties are hard-line nationalist and majority consensus. We all forget Modis past, he compared the killing of innocent Muslims being killed to that a death of a death of a stray puppy.
Merging Cultures Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Ban Trump from the UK http://news.sky.com/story/1602440/100000-sign-ban-trump-from-uk-petition
MPH Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Ban Trump from the UK http://news.sky.com/story/1602440/100000-sign-ban-trump-from-uk-petition I'd sign and ban Donald trump from the U.S if i could! And that's the thing about America. it's the land of the free. Just as Muslims are ( or should be ) free to come here, he is free to have any opinion he wants.
Merging Cultures Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 I'd sign and ban Donald trump from the U.S if i could! And that's the thing about America. it's the land of the free. Just as Muslims are ( or should be ) free to come here, he is free to have any opinion he wants. Of course, he can say whatever he wants. Doesn't mean there doesn't have to be consequences. He is spouting awful shite. I had enough of hearing Rush on the news constantly, now this imbecile is 10x worse. Is it just for effect? Is he 'trolling'? Who knows, who cares, he is being an ass.
Izzy Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 As a golf nut myself and to be fair to Trump, he's built a brilliant new golf complex in Aberdeenshire and his investment in Turnberry will make it truly world class. I'll move on now and stay away from his politics..
Rincewind Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Well it must be bad when Boris Johnson has come out and said that he would avoid parts of New York for fear of bumping into him. I know how you feel Boris. I avoid London. https://soundcloud.com/huffpostmorningemail/the-morning-email-december-9-2015
Webbo Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 What he said was ridiculous but banning someone for having stupid views? Really?
Buce Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 What he said was ridiculous but banning someone for having stupid views? Really? It's hardly without precedent, is it? All sorts of people are refused entry to this country for having unpleasant views. Wasn't that right-wing dutch guy?
Merging Cultures Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 What he said was ridiculous but banning someone for having stupid views? Really?You and I can have stupid views. But his are encouraging bigotry on a mass scale. It's beyond having personal views to inciting hatred.
Webbo Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 If you're inciting violence fair enough. It's possible that Trump could be US president one day. Are we going to ban him then?
Webbo Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 You and I can have stupid views. But his are encouraging bigotry on a mass scale. It's beyond having personal views to inciting hatred. Judging by the reactions here and in America it's not encouraging any bigotry in anyone who isn't bigoted already.
Merging Cultures Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Judging by the reactions here and in America it's not encouraging any bigotry in anyone who isn't bigoted already.It's justifying their bigotry and encouraging them. Encouraging bigots to be bigots isn't a good thing.
Rincewind Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Didn't some one get thrown out of Britain for making hate speeches? There were plenty that agreed with it and were labelng him more than stupid.
Webbo Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 You either believe in freedom of speech for peoples' whose views you despise or you don't believe in freedom of speech at all. Didn't some one get thrown out of Britain for making hate speeches? There were plenty that agreed with it and were labelng him more than stupid. Inciting violence Kenneth, there is a difference.
Merging Cultures Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 You either believe in freedom of speech for peoples' whose views you despise or you don't believe in freedom of speech at all. Inciting violence Kenneth, there is a difference. There has never been, anywhere, 100% freedom of speech, especially in a public setting.
Webbo Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 There has never been, anywhere, 100% freedom of speech. Maybe it's time that there was.
Merging Cultures Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Maybe it's time that there was.Not if it is inciting hatred.
Merging Cultures Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 The unfortunate thing is a lot of people are not well informed. They don't go out of their little bubble to find out whether what their Dad, Pastor, Politician, News Reader is saying is true. Now if there was full information available to all and people were rational, then I'd agree. However, there isn't and people are not. Therefore, there has to be some level of controls on speech.
Guest MattP Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Didn't some one get thrown out of Britain for making hate speeches? There were plenty that agreed with it and were labelng him more than stupid. No, he was thrown out because he was wanted in Yemen for blowing people up. He was arrested here for making speeches in the street where he encouraged people to kill other people based on their religion, if Trump ever does that I'll join you in the campaign to bar him from Britain as well. Until then he has as much right to freedom of speech and to travel to this country as anybody else does from America.
Captain... Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 There has never been, anywhere, 100% freedom of speech, especially in a public setting. The internet?
Merging Cultures Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 The internet?Nope you can be done for cyber bullying etc
Guest MattP Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 As an aside I'm actually rather worried about the consistent attacks on free speech by so many people these days. Not just this either, but amongst the young, even the Oxford Union has now had to call in security to some events to throw out hecklers and remove leafleters on campus who try and silence anyone with a different opinion, the explosion in this over the last few years should worry anybody who values debate and freedom of speech. Ironically the same people are often the ones who complain about government denying them freedoms, they do a good job of denying it themselves.
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