MooseBreath Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 The point is that Pearson is the one who has put the vast majority of the work of getting the club to where it is now. From League One to Championship to Prem all whilst blooding young players and making people work for the shirt and caring about the club. Ranieri has taken Pearson's work and ran with it, rather than picking up the pieces. And if you don't believe me CR has said as much: 'With what we're doing, the benefit is behind me, the former manager, players, the club, everything.' I do believe you. Can we move on now? Or else for how long are we going to have to repeat the lines about Pearson doing a good job?
inckley fox Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 I do believe you. Can we move on now? Or else for how long are we going to have to repeat the lines about Pearson doing a good job? What do you want to 'move on' to? We're doing brilliantly and we're full of praise for the people behind it, Claudio, the players, and those who - while no longer at the club - continue to have their impact felt. Surely praise, or gratitude for Pearson is in the context of something which is happening right now. There are enough posts about O'Neill flying around 15 years on, and why shouldn't there be? People want to enjoy their memories, but his relevance to what is happening now is - if anything - incredibly minor. Pearson's isn't. And if things go slightly awry because Ulloa and Kramaric aren't up to it when they have to stand in for Vardy, or our right backs turn out to be useless, or we're left with Schwarzer to fill in for Kasper, then he'll be relevant to that too. It's not as if appreciating Pearson's impact and appreciating that of Ranieri are mutually exclusive, and if you ignore one and focus on the other then surely that would amount to a failure to fully appreciate the situation we find ourselves in now, and the reasons for it. Now if someone is weeping nightly over the fact that the Hallowed Nige has gone, maybe they should move on, just as people who wished to God that Sven had turned out to be better than he was and never especially enjoyed Pearson getting all the love should have long since moved on. But when someone has enjoyed great success at a club which doesn't tend to enjoy great success, and very recently, and when our current - greater - success owes a lot to that, I can't imagine why fans should feel obliged to move on from talking about it. Claudio, the players - they haven't forgotten it. And, seeing as we spend plenty of time moaning about Taylor, or Levein, or Holloway - times which would be wonderful to forget - it seems fairly unrealistic for people to suddenly blank the moment the light appeared at the end of the tunnel!
ImBlue Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 What do you want to 'move on' to? We're doing brilliantly and we're full of praise for the people behind it, Claudio, the players, and those who - while no longer at the club - continue to have their impact felt. Surely praise, or gratitude for Pearson is in the context of something which is happening right now. There are enough posts about O'Neill flying around 15 years on, and why shouldn't there be? People want to enjoy their memories, but his relevance to what is happening now is - if anything - incredibly minor. Pearson's isn't. And if things go slightly awry because Ulloa and Kramaric aren't up to it when they have to stand in for Vardy, or our right backs turn out to be useless, or we're left with Schwarzer to fill in for Kasper, then he'll be relevant to that too. It's not as if appreciating Pearson's impact and appreciating that of Ranieri are mutually exclusive, and if you ignore one and focus on the other then surely that would amount to a failure to fully appreciate the situation we find ourselves in now, and the reasons for it. Now if someone is weeping nightly over the fact that the Hallowed Nige has gone, maybe they should move on, just as people who wished to God that Sven had turned out to be better than he was and never especially enjoyed Pearson getting all the love should have long since moved on. But when someone has enjoyed great success at a club which doesn't tend to enjoy great success, and very recently, and when our current - greater - success owes a lot to that, I can't imagine why fans should feel obliged to move on from talking about it. Claudio, the players - they haven't forgotten it. And, seeing as we spend plenty of time moaning about Taylor, or Levein, or Holloway - times which would be wonderful to forget - it seems fairly unrealistic for people to suddenly blank the moment the light appeared at the end of the tunnel! You're a big, persistent Pearsonite. Just drop it now. It's boring, as Pearson got towards the end. We're now in new exciting times enjoying a honeymoon period in a new relationship if you like. Stop being hung up.
Guest MattP Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 I'd say it's more like we're in the same relationship but she's had a beast enlargement.
Dr The Singh Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 I'd say it's more like we're in the same relationship but she's had a beast enlargement.
ImBlue Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 I'd say it's more like we're in the same relationship but she's had a beast enlargement. Even with the breast enlargement, the new ones are bigger.
MPH Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 If someone builds a house, you don't thank the person who painted it for how well it stands up in a storm...
Webbo Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 If someone builds a house, you don't thank the person who painted it for how well it stands up in a storm... Well you damn well should.
ImBlue Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 It could be argued the owners built it, Pearson was the painter.
Izzy Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 The fans have always been the builders. Different painters come and go every few seasons - some good, mostly bad. Our house was built in 1884 and will always stand up to any storm. So there. I feel a song coming on....
Webbo Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 are you a painter? I try to keep it a secret, but yes.
MPH Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 I try to keep it a secret, but yes. You guys do a damn fine job..... The fans have always been the builders. Different painters come and go every few seasons - some good, mostly bad. Our house was built in 1884 and will always stand up to any storm. So there. I feel a song coming on.... we are not the builders, we just buy all the building supplies for them!
AKCJ Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 If someone builds a house, you don't thank the person who painted it for how well it stands up in a storm... True, but attemping to say that Pearson merely painted this fortress is a bit harsh.
MPH Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 True, but attemping to say that Pearson merely painted this fortress is a bit harsh.
MPH Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 The fans have always been the builders. Different painters come and go every few seasons - some good, mostly bad. Our house was built in 1884 and will always stand up to any storm. So there. I feel a song coming on.... The wise fan built his house in 1884 The wise fan built his house in 1884 The wise man built his house in 1884 and the points came tumbling in... The players came in and the wages went UP! The players came in and the wages went UP! The players came in and the wage went UP! And Heskey Bailed us out! Its a winner Get the away fans to sing it against Newcastle.
inckley fox Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 You're a big, persistent Pearsonite. Just drop it now. It's boring, as Pearson got towards the end. We're now in new exciting times enjoying a honeymoon period in a new relationship if you like. Stop being hung up. What a dreadful thing to be persistently grateful for somebody being successful for your team. Do O'Neill or Gillies bore you too? Or is it hard for you to be grateful for two different things - in this case Ranieri and Pearson - at the same time? Perhaps the problem is that you equate Ranieri with a romantic liaison, whereby you're supposed to erase the past in order to make things work. Quite apart from this analogy being a bit weird - because it's a good run of form for your team and not a sexually exhilarating week in Mauritius - it's also totally absurd. The notion that you're not meant to remember your club's past, especially when it continues to have a huge impact on the present, is one which you have come up with because it suits you to. And personally I thought that towards the end, the bit when we became one of the most in-form sides in Europe, was the most exciting of all. But if it bored you, fine. I'm delighted to talk about what's happening now too, and with barely a mention of Pearson, on threads which aren't explicitly about him. That said, if someone does mention him then good, it shows they're aware of some of the other work which took place to get us where we are now. Christians talk about the New Testament without it being boring to mention Moses, Tories talk about Cameron without forgetting Thatcher, Socialists bring up Attlee when they're on about Corbyn. And it'd be a bit strange if, from time to time, they didn't. But, looking at the sorts of things which bore you, I'd have to suggest that in future you focus your energies more on the posts which don't, directly at least, concern Pearson.
HighPeakFox Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 What a dreadful thing to be persistently grateful for somebody being successful for your team. Do O'Neill or Gillies bore you too? Or is it hard for you to be grateful for two different things - in this case Ranieri and Pearson - at the same time? Perhaps the problem is that you equate Ranieri with a romantic liaison, whereby you're supposed to erase the past in order to make things work. Quite apart from this analogy being a bit weird - because it's a good run of form for your team and not a sexually exhilarating week in Mauritius - it's also totally absurd. The notion that you're not meant to remember your club's past, especially when it continues to have a huge impact on the present, is one which you have come up with because it suits you to. And personally I thought that towards the end, the bit when we became one of the most in-form sides in Europe, was the most exciting of all. But if it bored you, fine. I'm delighted to talk about what's happening now too, and with barely a mention of Pearson, on threads which aren't explicitly about him. That said, if someone does mention him then good, it shows they're aware of some of the other work which took place to get us where we are now. Christians talk about the New Testament without it being boring to mention Moses, Tories talk about Cameron without forgetting Thatcher, Socialists bring up Attlee when they're on about Corbyn. And it'd be a bit strange if, from time to time, they didn't. But, looking at the sorts of things which bore you, I'd have to suggest that in future you focus your energies more on the posts which don't, directly at least, concern Pearson. Superb
Nickfosse Posted 11 November 2015 Posted 11 November 2015 What a dreadful thing to be persistently grateful for somebody being successful for your team. Do O'Neill or Gillies bore you too? Or is it hard for you to be grateful for two different things - in this case Ranieri and Pearson - at the same time? Perhaps the problem is that you equate Ranieri with a romantic liaison, whereby you're supposed to erase the past in order to make things work. Quite apart from this analogy being a bit weird - because it's a good run of form for your team and not a sexually exhilarating week in Mauritius - it's also totally absurd. The notion that you're not meant to remember your club's past, especially when it continues to have a huge impact on the present, is one which you have come up with because it suits you to. And personally I thought that towards the end, the bit when we became one of the most in-form sides in Europe, was the most exciting of all. But if it bored you, fine. I'm delighted to talk about what's happening now too, and with barely a mention of Pearson, on threads which aren't explicitly about him. That said, if someone does mention him then good, it shows they're aware of some of the other work which took place to get us where we are now. Christians talk about the New Testament without it being boring to mention Moses, Tories talk about Cameron without forgetting Thatcher, Socialists bring up Attlee when they're on about Corbyn. And it'd be a bit strange if, from time to time, they didn't. But, looking at the sorts of things which bore you, I'd have to suggest that in future you focus your energies more on the posts which don't, directly at least, concern Pearson. You're far too intelligent and erudite for a forum such as this. I thought that Nigel Pearson was a wonderful manager of Leicester City, and I am loving the tenure of Claudio Ranieri. I do not see why holding such a view is so contradictory to some.
Thracian Posted 12 November 2015 Posted 12 November 2015 It's been suggested that Pearson's been so long in his garden that it might well be one of those being opened to the public for a day next summer!
Oxfordfox83 Posted 12 November 2015 Posted 12 November 2015 You're a big, persistent Pearsonite. Just drop it now. It's boring, as Pearson got towards the end. We're now in new exciting times enjoying a honeymoon period in a new relationship if you like. Stop being hung up. This 100%. What a massive snorefest the end of last season was, tediously playing out meaningless games in front of a bored crowd. I regularly defibrillated myself during games just to stay awake. ... If your life delivers you such constant stimulation that the games last April and May were the lowlights, then I'm glad I'm not you. I imagine I'd be dead within a week.
Steven Posted 12 November 2015 Posted 12 November 2015 But we've only ever had a small number of managers who clearly took the club forward - Hodge, possibly Orr, Halliday, Gillies, Bloomfield, Milne, possibly Little, O'Neill... if somebody were to hold them - Little aside, some may argue - in disdain now I'd tend to think they couldn't be fans of the club, just as if they thoroughly disliked Adcock, Black, Chandler, Rowley, Cross, Weller or Lineker. Gordon Milne.
The Railway Man Posted 12 November 2015 Posted 12 November 2015 What a dreadful thing to be persistently grateful for somebody being successful for your team. Do O'Neill or Gillies bore you too? Or is it hard for you to be grateful for two different things - in this case Ranieri and Pearson - at the same time? Perhaps the problem is that you equate Ranieri with a romantic liaison, whereby you're supposed to erase the past in order to make things work. Quite apart from this analogy being a bit weird - because it's a good run of form for your team and not a sexually exhilarating week in Mauritius - it's also totally absurd. The notion that you're not meant to remember your club's past, especially when it continues to have a huge impact on the present, is one which you have come up with because it suits you to. And personally I thought that towards the end, the bit when we became one of the most in-form sides in Europe, was the most exciting of all. But if it bored you, fine. I'm delighted to talk about what's happening now too, and with barely a mention of Pearson, on threads which aren't explicitly about him. That said, if someone does mention him then good, it shows they're aware of some of the other work which took place to get us where we are now. Christians talk about the New Testament without it being boring to mention Moses, Tories talk about Cameron without forgetting Thatcher, Socialists bring up Attlee when they're on about Corbyn. And it'd be a bit strange if, from time to time, they didn't. But, looking at the sorts of things which bore you, I'd have to suggest that in future you focus your energies more on the posts which don't, directly at least, concern Pearson. Love this post
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