Babylon Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Can't attack. Too many mishit crosses (as shown against Bournemouth) when in attacking areas. Doesn't know how to tackle. Jockeys every bastard winger, meaning they cut in and shoot/cross. Doesn't block crosses. Uncomfortable on the ball in tight spaces. Positioning is constantly poor and expects winger to go to the man. Want me to go on, pal? Not really listing specific errors in games is it?
Ric Flair Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Can't attack. Too many mishit crosses (as shown against Bournemouth) when in attacking areas. Doesn't know how to tackle. Jockeys every bastard winger, meaning they cut in and shoot/cross. Doesn't block crosses. Uncomfortable on the ball in tight spaces. Positioning is constantly poor and expects winger to go to the man. Want me to go on, pal? Is this Simpson or De Laet? Simpson has been fine this season, astounding.
Adster Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Not really listing specific errors in games is it? They don't need to, these mistakes happen in pretty much every game he plays. All I'm saying it just watch him closely next game, people don't realise these because they're not really paying close attention to his performance. If you do, you'll see where i'm coming from.
hornyhollthefox123 Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 They don't need to, these mistakes happen in pretty much every game he plays. All I'm saying it just watch him closely next game, people don't realise these because they're not really paying close attention to his performance. If you do, you'll see where i'm coming from. I can barely remember him getting skinned by anyone this year bar once by Martial which led to nothing. We asked for specifics yet you can't give any. He isn't spectacular but he's been more than solid.
Adster Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 I can barely remember him getting skinned by anyone this year bar once by Martial which led to nothing. We asked for specifics yet you can't give any. He isn't spectacular but he's been more than solid. Jesus man. Read the list, where did I say he gets skinned? The specifics are specific, it happens every game. I'm not listing every game this season because that'd be a waste of time. We need better than Simpson if we're to progress, he's simply not good enough.
Babylon Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 They don't need to, these mistakes happen in pretty much every game he plays. All I'm saying it just watch him closely next game, people don't realise these because they're not really paying close attention to his performance. If you do, you'll see where i'm coming from. I watch him every game, I sit right behind where he plays for most of the game and see what he does more than most of the other players. Other than not offering much in an attacking sense, none of that other stuff causes any major issues at all, some of them are just outright wrong. Such as expecting the winger to go to his man... which he bloody should be doing and not flouncing inside like Mahrez does way too much. See Albrighton for an example of how it shouldn't be an issue. Our performances at the back speak for themselves since he came into the team with Fuchs. Least goals conceded in 13 games.
Adster Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Benteke against us too if you're looking for specifics. Jockeying the bastard like always and not making a tackle led to Firmino (I think) easily crossing for Benteke.
AKCJ Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Benteke against us too if you're looking for specifics. Jockeying the bastard like always and not making a tackle. He did the same for Lallana in the build up to the goal. Just stood in about 5 yards in front of him allowing him to easily pick out Benteke.
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Harsh on De Laet. Think he's a good squad player, and don't think he ever did too much wrong. Worth noting he's very quick, so always helps if one side is getting overloaded with fast wingers. Also pretty good at helping to overload our right hand side too. Filled in alright for us at CB as well. Definitely think that we need a third option like this guy or Perreira though. Someone who has good defensive qualities AND attacking qualities, not one way or the other (I.e. Simpson and De Laet respectively). You can't have 3 right backs pal. You've got to think about squad harmony.
Adster Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 He did the same for Lallana in the build up to the goal. Just stood in about 5 yards in front of him allowing him to easily pick out Benteke. Exactly mate. It happens all too often and the same happened against Stanislas, Sterling, Hazard etc. It's just simply not good enough. The whole idea of being a defender is to be able to defend and make tackles. He doesn't tackle.
Babylon Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Benteke against us too if you're looking for specifics. Jockeying the bastard like always and not making a tackle led to Firmino (I think) easily crossing for Benteke. He did the same for Lallana in the build up to the goal. Just stood in about 5 yards in front of him allowing him to easily pick out Benteke. Presumably you think Wes and Huth are Also doggo then for not bothering to even mark the one striker stood in the box?
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Exactly mate. It happens all too often and the same happened against Stanislas, Sterling, Hazard etc. It's just simply not good enough. The whole idea of being a defender is to be able to defend and make tackles. He doesn't tackle. I think you are being slightly harsh on Simpson. But I do agree with the point your making! I had a conversation about this after the game on Saturday, it seems to me he doesn't have enough faith in his defence abilities & is scared of being skinned hence the reason why he always gives himself an extra 5 yards.
MPH Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Simpson has been fine this season. He's got games under his belt and proven to be a better player than De Laet. He's done very well indeed. But is he a top 6 defender? To me its no disgrace to say to him he isnt. And if he becomes available, he'll get some prem teams interested in him. Just as Dean Hammond became a victim of us taking it to the next lvl, there's every chance Simpson could be the victim of us taking it up another notch. If a player becomes available to us who is better than what we have already, i would consider it a lack of ambition to not try and improve the team
Babylon Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Exactly mate. It happens all too often and the same happened against Stanislas, Sterling, Hazard etc. It's just simply not good enough. The whole idea of being a defender is to be able to defend and make tackles. He doesn't tackle. It has been good enough though... Simpson has been fine this season. He's got games under his belt and proven to be a better player than De Laet. He's done very well indeed. But is he a top 6 defender? To me its no disgrace to say to him he isnt. And if he becomes available, he'll get some prem teams interested in him. Just as Dean Hammond became a victim of us taking it to the next lvl, there's every chance Simpson could be the victim of us taking it up another notch. If a player becomes available to us who is better than what we have already, i would consider it a lack of ambition to not try and improve the team Nobody is saying he is a top six defender... they are taking exception to him being called "doggo", when he's been absolutely fine.
goose2010 Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Exactly mate. It happens all too often and the same happened against Stanislas, Sterling, Hazard etc. It's just simply not good enough. The whole idea of being a defender is to be able to defend and make tackles. He doesn't tackle. remind me again how many did Bournemouth, Man City and Chelsea (when Hazard was on the pitch) score?
AKCJ Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Presumably you think Wes and Huth are Also doggo then for not bothering to even mark the one striker stood in the box? I don't ever remember calling Simpson doggo. Merely proving the ridiculous idea that he's not made any mistakes wrong. I think Simpson has been very good, but he's cost us a few times. As has the other defenders (bar probably Fuchs who is incredible).
Adster Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 remind me again how many did Bournemouth, Man City and Chelsea (when Hazard was on the pitch) score? Doesn't matter. The point is we're always gonna be vulnerable whilst he defends the way he does - see liverpool game etc. He's makes the most mistakes out of the whole back four which puts strain on the rest of the defence. This is not needed, meaning we need a new right back.
Babylon Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 I don't ever remember calling Simpson doggo. Merely proving the ridiculous idea that he's not made any mistakes wrong. I think Simpson has been very good, but he's cost us a few times. As has the other defenders (bar probably Fuchs who is incredible). Nobody has said he's been perfect, but the other person you keep quoting said he was "doggo" and is basically trying to run him into the ground. ALL players will make mistakes and cost us goals, I expect it... but it's not a regular thing, far from it. The defending from Huth for the Liverpool goal was far worse than anything Simpson did.
hornyhollthefox123 Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Doesn't matter. The point is we're always gonna be vulnerable whilst he defends the way he does - see liverpool game etc. He's makes the most mistakes out of the whole back four which puts strain on the rest of the defence. This is not needed, meaning we need a new right back. I don't mind a difference in opinion but you can't back it up with any specific examples. Anyway never mind. You can't argue our defence significantly improved when he and Fuchs started playing. God help you if De Laet started - surely you must realise de Laet is more prone to errors and less consistent that Simpson. Long term yes right back is definitely an area to look at but the criticism of Simpson is just wrong on current form.
Adster Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 I don't mind a difference in opinion but you can't back it up with any specific examples. Anyway never mind. You can't argue our defence significantly improved when he and Fuchs started playing. God help you if De Laet started - surely you must realise de Laet is more prone to errors and less consistent that Simpson. Long term yes right back is definitely an area to look at but the criticism of Simpson is just wrong on current form. Yeah I agree to that. De Laet is about 10000x more doggo than Simpson and that's saying something!
theessexfox Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Simpson's done just fine as a regular RB in a season that sees us 2nd in January... that'll do me.
goose2010 Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Doesn't matter. The point is we're always gonna be vulnerable whilst he defends the way he does - see liverpool game etc. He's makes the most mistakes out of the whole back four which puts strain on the rest of the defence. This is not needed, meaning we need a new right back. Not sure if you go to the games or get there earlier enough to see but Simpson often does 1-1 training with one of the coaches where he is basically jockeying the man and pushing him out wide almost inviting a cross you would trust kasper, Huth or Morgan to win a head from a cross from a wrong foot of any winger. So he is obviously being told to jockey which isn't a bad thing as its defending 101 - not sure if you have ever played the game but sending the player wide is a tactic teams use at all levels. You cant tell me that since Simpson has been brought into the team our defence hasn't improved but it would be a lie. He is good enough for us and will only get better the more he plays, there are a couple of places we need to improve before we starting looking at a RB if anyone in the back needs improving it's Huth he has looked the weak link this season which is crazy as last season he was the strongest player at the back.
Dr The Singh Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Not sure if you go to the games or get there earlier enough to see but Simpson often does 1-1 training with one of the coaches where he is basically jockeying the man and pushing him out wide almost inviting a cross you would trust kasper, Huth or Morgan to win a head from a cross from a wrong foot of any winger. So he is obviously being told to jockey which isn't a bad thing as its defending 101 - not sure if you have ever played the game but sending the player wide is a tactic teams use at all levels. You cant tell me that since Simpson has been brought into the team our defence hasn't improved but it would be a lie. He is good enough for us and will only get better the more he plays, there are a couple of places we need to improve before we starting looking at a RB if anyone in the back needs improving it's Huth he has looked the weak link this season which is crazy as last season he was the strongest player at the back.Thanks Danny for the insight, but were moving up a level, and maybe you were OK for a lower end team, this season were aiming for a top 4 slot and your simply not good enough!!!!! Cheers
goose2010 Posted 4 January 2016 Posted 4 January 2016 Thanks Danny for the insight, but were moving up a level, and maybe you were OK for a lower end team, this season were aiming for a top 4 slot and your simply not good enough!!!!! Cheers Sad really that people cant see past peoples past and see a decent player that's right in front of their eyes.
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