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If (and its a big 'if') we win the league, will it be the biggest feat in English Football History?

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Yeah, yeah it would.

The last non big team to win the league was Blackburn & even then, they'd spent a fair whack on the squad.

Look at our team, not one player has come in as a big name / big fee player from another team (I'm talking £10-15m upwards on individual players).

Honestly, IF we won the league this year, I honestly wouldn't care if we were relegated next season, I'd still probably be running around doing helicopters with my dick out.

There's no realistic chance we'd be relegated if we won the Premiership title. Once we establish ourselves - as seems to be happening rapidly - I can see us remaining a good Premiership team for a long time unless there's some extraordinary event like the owners selling the club or suchlike.

Irrespective of our league placing just now, Leicester City is a thoroughly professional club at every level - and increasingly wealthy.

Prudent purchasing means we've now got by far the highest value players in our history and those values seem to be rising as we speak. Even if some of those players were lost I'm sure we'd be competing for quality replacements. Our owners have made their fortunes buying and selling things on a large scale and running their businesses effectively. That expertise can't be overstated so I can't see any way standards would be allowed to drop so far that we ended up relegated.

Quite the contrary - I see us competing on all sorts of levels in the future and writing still more chapters of what is fast becoming one of the most remarkable footballing fairytales of all time.

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So.....is that a yes then?

deffo ...!! Trying to add reasoning.

And Cloughie had and used the money for the biggest record buys at the time.

Ipswich would belong up there, though the Burnleys had shown that small clubs, could

create from basics.

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Yes yes and yes. In the modern era, no team has come close to doing what we are doing outside the top teams. Especially with the money in the game the big teams are just getting bigger which makes our story even more incredible. I know Blackburn won it two years after being promoted, but they splashed the cash at a time when money wasn't in the game. We are doing it on a fairly low budget in an era when the top teams are spending 5/10 times our spend. This will be the biggest achievement in football ever. Some people will point to Greece winning the Euros. Whilst that was exceptional, in knockout football it's easier to do so than over a whole league season. Even getting into the CL will be huge. 

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Yes yes and yes. In the modern era, no team has come close to doing what we are doing outside the top teams. Especially with the money in the game the big teams are just getting bigger which makes our story even more incredible. I know Blackburn won it two years after being promoted, but they splashed the cash at a time when money wasn't in the game. We are doing it on a fairly low budget in an era when the top teams are spending 5/10 times our spend. This will be the biggest achievement in football ever. Some people will point to Greece winning the Euros. Whilst that was exceptional, in knockout football it's easier to do so than over a whole league season. Even getting into the CL will be huge.

A decent 2000th post that mate

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If we were to win the PL this season it would definitely rank alongside Burnley and Ipswich winning the league in the 1960s and with what Brian Clough did with Derby and Forest in the 70s winning the First Division with different clubs neither of whom had ever won the league before.

 

I don't think it could be claimed to equal the totality  of Cloughie's achievement with Forest between 1978 and 1980, during which time he won the League, 2 European Cups and 2 League Cups as well as setting an unbeaten run of league games which stood for 25 years until the Arsenal unbeaten side overtook it.

 

However, were we to win the League having been bottom in April the previous season, in only our 2nd season back in the top flight and with a manager in his first season with the club, it would be one of the outstanding  feats in English football since its inception in 1888 and LCFC's greatest moment ever.

 

If it does happen we must all feel exceptionally privileged to have been alive to witness it.

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If we were to win the PL this season it would definitely rank alongside Burnley and Ipswich winning the league in the 1960s and with what Brian Clough did with Derby and Forest in the 70s winning the First Division with different clubs neither of whom had ever won the league before.

I don't think it could be claimed to equal the totality of Cloughie's achievement with Forest between 1978 and 1980, during which time he won the League, 2 European Cups and 2 League Cups as well as setting an unbeaten run of league games which stood for 25 years until the Arsenal unbeaten side overtook it.

However, were we to win the League having been bottom in April the previous season, in only our 2nd season back in the top flight and with a manager in his first season with the club, it would be one of the outstanding feats in English football since its inception in 1888 and LCFC's greatest moment ever.

If it does happen we must all feel exceptionally privileged to have been alive to witness it.

It would surpass Ipswich, Burnely and Forest achievements. Back in the day there wasn't as much money so you were more restricted to who you signed in terms of geography. Hence the 'bigger teams' weren't as consistent.

Today players are signed and hand picked from around the world by the big teams due to the wages given. In recent years nobody in the PL (biggest league in the world) has even broken into the top 4 ahead of the big 4/5.

I truly believed for years it would be impossible for any team to win the league without having to spend massive amounts of money like Man City have done as consistency comes with buying top quality. I'm starting to believe the impossible could happen... But then I also think I'm gonna wake up at some point.

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Regarding Forest's achievements in winning 2 European Cups back to back. 

 

I'm no Forest sympathiser but I started watching football and going to games around 76/77 so I remember that era. Forest won 2 European Cups without ever having to play Real Madrid, Barcelona, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus, Bayern Munich, Ajax, Benfica, Man Utd at any point.

 

The only club of european stature they played in either campaign was Liverpool who they knocked out in the 78/79 competition and the next year Liverpool were knocked out by Dynamo Tbilisi in the 1st round to put that feat in perspective.

 

In the 70s and 80s there were 3 European club competitions of roughly equal prestige, the European Cup, the UEFA Cup and the European Cup Winners Cup and winning any one of them was a major achievement in a club's history.

 

English clubs were phenomenally successful between 1963 and 1985 until the Heysel ban.

 

Liverpool - 6 European trophies

Man Utd - 1 trophy

Spurs -  3 trophies

West Ham - 1 trophy

Ipswich - 1 trophy 

Everton - 1 trophy

Aston Villa - 1 trophy

Man City - 1 trophy

Chelsea - 1 trophy

Newcastle - 1 trophy

Arsenal - 1 trophy

Leeds - 2 trophies

Forest - 2 trophies

 

The fact is that English clubs found it quite easy to win European trophies in that era and Forest were part of that trend.

Posted

Forest winning the league and back to back European cups is a phenomenal achievement, for a small club even back then.

We would need to win the league then the champions league to come close to that achievement.

In my football watching Porto winning the CL under mourinho has to be up there, probably Liverpool winning the CL too, especially the way they did it.

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Yes, yes it would.

 

I moved to this area in 2002, watched the last few games at Filbert St and feel lucky to have known that place, ended up a ST holder and kept it till LCFC were in L1 when my work changed, and I now come when I can to watch this club.

 

In the last weeks, I have had people from my home country and other places I've lived , who know I live round here these days, getting in contact with me, to ask what it's like to be here while this is unfolding. People, some of whom wouldn't even be 'football' types. They want to know what it's like to actually be witnessing this up close.

 

The worlds eyes are beginning to turn this way, 'cos this is potentially f*~king huge.

 

And I am delighted of for each and every last one of you, who sat through Levein and the succession of his successors who oversaw the decent into L1 post MON, when lets face it, it was very hard to watch for a very long time.

 

Enjoy every moment and every kick. 

 

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The chances of a lesser side winning the league in the 70s and 60s (we came close ourselves with the Ice Kings) were far greater than now. In the twenty seasons before Forest won the league there were 11 winners - in the last 20 years there have been 4 winners. Forgive me for going a bit dramatic, but I think this would be the biggest upset in the history of sport, we were 5,000/1 last summer to win the Premier League and at the same time Gok Wan was only 1,000/1 to be our next manager!! Forest were only 66/1 and were, on the balance of probabilities around 75 times more likely to win it then than we are now, but they did win it and we haven't and may well not.

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Much as I hate to say it you have to respect two back to back European Cups for a team like Forest.....

 

Besides that pretty much without debate given the money and squads the top teams have.

 

I still think we have a very small chance. Even if we do well over the next three games it will require a insurmountable amount of bottle to see it through.

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I would say it would be the greatest achievement in many years. Probably one of the best in 10/15 years or more.

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