Freeman's Wharfer Posted 24 March 2016 Posted 24 March 2016 How about they stop big clubs just stock-piling players in their U21 squads and then maybe there will be more situations like with Drinkwater where he was sold into The Championship and has worked his way back up? The FA are so desperate to get young players playing competitive football yet do nothing to stop Chelsea having 50+ players on the books with no intention of ever playing half of them. People sometimes forget that our lower leagues are not Mickey Mouse leagues like lower leagues in other countries and there are decent clubs and fans down there who don't deserve to be treated as the test team for guinea pig sides of those players big clubs keep 'just in case'.
dylanlegend Posted 24 March 2016 Posted 24 March 2016 How will it make it more competitive? Man United reserves are hardly gonna go all out to win the thing and get a trip to Wembley are they? They're just gonna use it to give the lads they've hoarded since they were teenagers a game to stop them wanting out permanently. Even the smaller teams don't give a sh*t about the JPT until they get to probably the quarter final and a chance to get to Wembley. There's no money in it. Even when we were in league one I think we put a weakened side out for this competition. I also don't think an u21 team would win it anyway, and I reckon a Rochdale would relish playing Man Utd u21 or even Leicester u21 at the King Power rather than having to go to Gillingham again.... Don't understand the arguments against really? Plus if the clubs don't want it in it won't happen anyway
Corky Posted 24 March 2016 Posted 24 March 2016 Although I'm against it the possibility of Coventry turning up at our place to play against our kids is appealing and amusing.
Ashley Posted 24 March 2016 Posted 24 March 2016 What a daft idea. If they want to mess about with a cup competition mess about with the league cup, make that U21 for prem teams. Please tell me you're not being serious? This kind of arrogance/post I would expect from a Arsenal/Man United/Chelsea/Liverpool fan not from a Leicester fan?
Guest Posted 25 March 2016 Posted 25 March 2016 Please tell me you're not being serious? This kind of arrogance/post I would expect from a Arsenal/Man United/Chelsea/Liverpool fan not from a Leicester fan? Can't speak for the poster, but I don' t think he meant it in an arrogant way. Fact is, none of the prem league clubs really care all that much about the League Cup - as evident by the sides they put out. It's practically already a u21 competition for a lot of them. Plus it's a competition Prem League clubs are already part of, so it makes more sense to change your approach to a cup you're already in, than to gatecrash another league's competition. If I was a fan/player/owner of a League 2 side and United etc were planning to use my competitive matches as a training exercise for their teenage primadonnas on 10k a week, ...yeah, I'd be proper unhappy about it.
Nalis Posted 25 March 2016 Posted 25 March 2016 If this happened and Leicester U21s got to Wembley before the first team I'd feel like a bit of a fraud. Unfair on the League 1 and 2 teams where, for many, its probably the only cup competition they'd ever have a realistic chance of winning.
Grewks Posted 25 March 2016 Posted 25 March 2016 Isn't this what the loan system is for? If we want the youngsters of the premier league to experience playing against the veterans of the lower leagues, send them on loan to blackpool for a month.
kyleolly Posted 25 March 2016 Posted 25 March 2016 Stick the premier u21's in the championship and scrap premiership relegation
Guest Posted 25 March 2016 Posted 25 March 2016 I know a similar idea was floated a few years ago, where a few big Premier clubs wanted to have their reserve or U21s play in the lower divisions, but without acquiring points or facing relegation/promotion, just sort of 'being there'. Think Spain and Italy have a similar arrangement with their top sides. Awful idea though, and glad it never gained traction.
purpleronnie Posted 25 March 2016 Posted 25 March 2016 We have the best league pyramid in the world but the Premiership clubs couldn't care less they just want everything for themselves. I just hope we'd be against such an idea.
Clever Fox Posted 25 March 2016 Posted 25 March 2016 We have the best league pyramid in the world but the Premiership clubs couldn't care less they just want everything for themselves. I just hope we'd be against such an idea. We did have the best League pyramid but that was in the 50 and 60s when all 88 clubs had second strings to support their first teams. This meant that more younger players got a proper coaching and a chance to make the first or second team. This meant more youngsters came to the surface from the lower leagues. Now very few come through. I'd be against the proposal for the above reason What I would like to see is an FA cup competition for each of the other 3 divisions. If only to give Fans something to get excited about in the lower divisions.
Bamba's Babes Posted 26 March 2016 Posted 26 March 2016 No longer called the Johnstone's Paint Trophy.
Captain... Posted 26 March 2016 Posted 26 March 2016 Can't speak for the poster, but I don' t think he meant it in an arrogant way. Fact is, none of the prem league clubs really care all that much about the League Cup - as evident by the sides they put out. It's practically already a u21 competition for a lot of them. Plus it's a competition Prem League clubs are already part of, so it makes more sense to change your approach to a cup you're already in, than to gatecrash another league's competition. If I was a fan/player/owner of a League 2 side and United etc were planning to use my competitive matches as a training exercise for their teenage primadonnas on 10k a week, ...yeah, I'd be proper unhappy about it. You're right I didn't mean to sound arrogant and it is not me or the fans that have devalued the cups, particularly the league cup, that is the premier league that has done that. The fact we have 2 cup competitions is odd, there is no real distinction between one or the other except that the FA Cup has more lower league teams in it. The clubs don't take it seriously any more, and as a result neither do the fans. If premier league clubs are so desperate to get more competition for their U21s then I would rather see it in the league cup than ruin the JPT at least then it is only affecting the premier league teams, by losing a first team place in the league cup and also giving lower league teams more of a chance. The alternative is develop the U21 leagues, put the games on TV play them at the main stadia generate some interest. There are plenty of fans out there that would take an interest in their teams academy players. Or if you really, really want to develop your U21 players, why not put them in the first team squad ahead of the overpaid underperforming dross that occupies the bench of a lot of premier league clubs.
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