GaelicFox Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Think it deserves a thread of its own Many of us grew up or were young people during this mans time , It seems most of us were fooled and hoodwinked by a serial charlatan Please go see this (27/07/2016) I'm very proud to say 3 years ago I contributed to the funding to make this docu-movie happen https://www.theguardian.com/film/video/2016/jul/13/the-killings-of-tony-blair-trailer-george-galloway-video?CMP=share_btn_link
Guest seanfox778 Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Looks like quite an interesting documentary. Why do most politicians appear so shady?
Guest Sharpe's Fox Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 I wonder what Blair's legacy would have been had he not chosen not to attach himself to Bush's leash and invade Iraq? Possibly one of the most, if not the most revered since Churchill and Atlee?
GaelicFox Posted 13 July 2016 Author Posted 13 July 2016 I wonder what Blair's legacy would have been had he not chosen not to attach himself to Bush's leash and invade Iraq? Possibly one of the most, if not the most revered since Churchill and Atlee? We had rampant inflation in early 1990's I think interest rates were 15% in 1992 !! He saved the country and Labour Party and transformed things for a number of years , the feel good in Britannia returned ! The Money and the desire for money caught hold of him The promise of wealth and influence his wife had dreamt of ! His legacy is destroyed now And about to get worse wait till you see the movie
Webbo Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 We had rampant inflation in early 1990's I think interest rates were 15% in 1992 !! He saved the country and Labour Party and transformed things for a number of years , the feel good in Britannia returned ! The Money and the desire for money caught hold of him The promise of wealth and influence his wife had dreamt of ! His legacy is destroyed now And about to get worse wait till you see the movie They were 15% for an afternoon. Inflation wasn't rampant either. The economy was in a very healthy state when Labour took over in 1997.
GaelicFox Posted 13 July 2016 Author Posted 13 July 2016 They were 15% for an afternoon. Inflation wasn't rampant either. The economy was in a very healthy state when Labour took over in 1997. Not at all true from 88-94 inflation was at times rampant Interest rates were in double digits for almost 4 years 88-92 I think it was 418 seats labour won in 97 ! The country was broken and sick of a lame duck tory PM in John major , and the most corrupt tory party in post war history , If people are happy webbo landslide results like that dont happen ! The county was not in a good place. The Tories had torched the country and if it was stable by 97 it was only stable because they couldn't torch anything else ! Blair and brown re-built this country , but ultimately they were undone by greed for power and and in Blair's case greed for money Osborne and Cameron have not enhanced Brown/Blair's early good work , they have well and truely got the level of austerity wrong , I like Cameron he is a decent bloke but his belief in Osborne (Rothschild puppet) as a financials whizz is ultimately the greatest disaster of his premiership. His legacy will be gay marriage (labour got him over the line) and the start of the break up of the Union. Brexit might work out for us all and be a great success for the country and if that happens his reputation will be ruined , as he was the man that tried to stop it.
Webbo Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Not at all true from 88-94 inflation was at times rampant Interest rates were in double digits for almost 4 years 88-92 I think it was 418 seats labour won in 97 ! The country was broken and sick of a lame duck tory PM in John major , and the most corrupt tory party in post war history , If people are happy webbo landslide results like that dont happen ! The county was not in a good place. The Tories had torched the country and if it was stable by 97 it was only stable because they couldn't torch anything else ! Blair and brown re-built this country , but ultimately they were undone by greed for power and and in Blair's case greed for money Osborne and Cameron have not enhanced Brown/Blair's early good work , they have well and truely got the level of austerity wrong , I like Cameron he is a decent bloke but his belief in Osborne (Rothschild puppet) as a financials whizz is ultimately the greatest disaster of his premiership. His legacy will be gay marriage (labour got him over the line) and the start of the break up of the Union. Brexit might work out for us all and be a great success for the country and if that happens his reputation will be ruined , as he was the man that tried to stop it. The interest rates we have now are out of the ordinary, the interest rates of the time were average for then.The electorate might have been fed up with the tories but the country wasn't broken.
Finnegan Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 What would Blair's legacy have been without the war? Education, Education, Education! No Labour government will ever instigate tuition fees!
Wymsey Posted 13 July 2016 Posted 13 July 2016 Dem teeth. Typical labour, promises shiny positive outlooks but fails to meet their promises.
Thracian Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 I wonder what Blair's legacy would have been had he not chosen not to attach himself to Bush's leash and invade Iraq? Possibly one of the most, if not the most revered since Churchill and Atlee? I'll presume you're joking!
Beliall Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 You know when you have a sharpie and no self control?
Nick Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 I have read the dossier, listened to the arguments of Blair and genuinely think he did what he did because he thought it the right thing to do in terms of removing a dictator who was commuting genocide. Whilst he may have put boots on the ground in Narnia to get rid of the Snow Queen in some people's minds, I think we vote leaders in to make tough and unpopular choices with the information they have. He did that - I don't agree with how he did it or the execution of SH but I don't believe he's some kind of evil human. He did what he thought was right.
sm1 Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 I have read the dossier, listened to the arguments of Blair and genuinely think he did what he did because he thought it the right thing to do in terms of removing a dictator who was commuting genocide. Whilst he may have put boots on the ground in Narnia to get rid of the Snow Queen in some people's minds, I think we vote leaders in to make tough and unpopular choices with the information they have. He did that - I don't agree with how he did it or the execution of SH but I don't believe he's some kind of evil human. He did what he thought was right. He did what he thought right for the neo con war mongers in America, not for the British public who elected him and definitely not for the Iraqis. His blind allegiance to their course is the primary reason why he is worth tens of millions of pounds now.
Nick Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 He did what he thought right for the neo con war mongers in America, not for the British public who elected him and definitely not for the Iraqis. His blind allegiance to their course is the primary reason why he is worth tens of millions of pounds now. Nah.
Guest MattP Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 His promise of a free laptop for every child in the 1997 manifesto still makes me chuckle, I was only 14 but remember thinking how on earth could anyone seriously fall for that?
Nick Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 His promise of a free laptop for every child in the 1997 manifesto still makes me chuckle, I was only 14 but remember thinking how on earth could anyone seriously fall for that? Did he?
sm1 Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 Nah. Each to their own, but Blair had more then enough information not to go to war. This war was a neocon dream. If you're interested read about Project for the New America (PNAC) and General Wesley Clarke. Blair just happened to be in the right place at the right time, and like i said, earned handsomely for it.
leicsmac Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 Each to their own, but Blair had more then enough information not to go to war. This war was a neocon dream. If you're interested read about Project for the New America (PNAC) and General Wesley Clarke. Blair just happened to be in the right place at the right time, and like i said, earned handsomely for it. Yup. Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld and Cheney were the ones really pushing for war as per the PNAC. Bush was just a figurehead.
DennisNedry Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 We had rampant inflation in early 1990's I think interest rates were 15% in 1992 !! He saved the country and Labour Party and transformed things for a number of years , the feel good in Britannia returned ! The Money and the desire for money caught hold of him The promise of wealth and influence his wife had dreamt of ! His legacy is destroyed now And about to get worse wait till you see the movie Blair's other legacy is probably mass uncontrolled immigration and forcing multiculturalism down everybody's throats.
Thracian Posted 14 July 2016 Posted 14 July 2016 I have read the dossier, listened to the arguments of Blair and genuinely think he did what he did because he thought it the right thing to do in terms of removing a dictator who was commuting genocide. Whilst he may have put boots on the ground in Narnia to get rid of the Snow Queen in some people's minds, I think we vote leaders in to make tough and unpopular choices with the information they have. He did that - I don't agree with how he did it or the execution of SH but I don't believe he's some kind of evil human. He did what he thought was right. If Bush had promoted the opposite view Blair would have sung a completely different tune. "Puppet On A String" comes to mind.
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