jmono84 Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 Drinks has been my fave player for ages but he needs dropping. Id give ndidi and mendy a go together in a 4-2-3-1. I don't kno what kind of cm DD is anymore, I would have said box to box but I dunno what's going on with him, he seems half the player he was.
Sampson Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 It was between him and Kasper for POTY pre-suspension but he's been abysmal since he's come back. Not sure what happened to him but I'm not sure trying the build the midfield round him is sensible atm.
USFox Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 I had hoped Drinkwater would help fill the role Kante left alongside Mendy early on in the season. I don't know if he necessarily needs dropping or if we need to put him in a better position to succeed. Maybe playing 2 CDM's behind him and having him play farther up front in an almost Okazaki-like role.
the fox Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 18 hours ago, USFox said: I had hoped Drinkwater would help fill the role Kante left alongside Mendy early on in the season. I don't know if he necessarily needs dropping or if we need to put him in a better position to succeed. Maybe playing 2 CDM's behind him and having him play farther up front in an almost Okazaki-like role. Now here is my problem with Drinkwater. So, we have to sacrifice another CM behind him to just make him play better. I wouldn't have a problem with him if the DM is not doing his job (n'didi) . but, obviously drinky is the one not filling the box to box role. We are outnumbered pretty much every game because he is playing almost in the same line is the DM.
kingfox Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 18 hours ago, Sampson said: I'm not sure trying the build the midfield round him is sensible atm. The thing is Drinkwater is such a vital part of the side, he is the forward drive of the midfield, he dictates our midfield. If you drop him then you're looking at playing two defensive minded midfielders, where will the forward drive come from then, where will the passing ability come from then. If we had the options and a similar back up for Drinkwater then he should be dropped, but unfortunately we don't have that option, we need to stick with him and hope he can find his form again.
Countryfox Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 3 minutes ago, kingfox said: If we had the options and a similar back up for Drinkwater then he should be dropped, but unfortunately we don't have that option, we need to stick with him and hope he can find his form again. Thats probably true for most of the team at the moment ....
the fox Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 19 hours ago, USFox said: I had hoped Drinkwater would help fill the role Kante left alongside Mendy early on in the season. I don't know if he necessarily needs dropping or if we need to put him in a better position to succeed. Maybe playing 2 CDM's behind him and having him play farther up front in an almost Okazaki-like role. Believe it or not, I would put king there if we are playing with 2 CDMs. He can do a better jobs than drinky
Raw Dykes Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 Am I right in thinking that the pattern DD has is still going? One bad season, then one good. This one he's been bad, last one excellent, great escape season he was bad, promotion season excellent, the one before was bad.
USFox Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 2 hours ago, the fox said: Now here is my problem with Drinkwater. So, we have to sacrifice another CM behind him to just make him play better. I wouldn't have a problem with him if the DM is not doing his job (n'didi) . but, obviously drinky is the one not filling the box to box role. We are outnumbered pretty much every game because he is playing almost in the same line is the DM. True but you can't blame him. Our CDM's can't hold on to the ball and make a proper pass, thus Drinkwater has to come back and help them retain control of the ball. It's not a matter of Drinkwater not playing box-to-box well as much as it is him not being able to get into positions to succeed. 2 CDMs behind him will allow him to focus on passing the ball and making plays. If that doesn't work then maybe it is a matter of him being not up to par, but I personally don't think that.
USFox Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 2 hours ago, the fox said: Believe it or not, I would put king there if we are playing with 2 CDMs. He can do a better jobs than drinky Meh, King isn't all that great.
Fox92 Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 He was one of our better players earlier this season. The mistake at West Brom seemed to have killed him.
lgfualol Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 Thought he was our best player up until December. Something has happened behind the scenes. He hasn't been the same since that West Brom back pass and getting done for elbowing. Ndidi and Mendy time.
Ric Flair Posted 6 February 2017 Posted 6 February 2017 He was the only outfield player showing any sort of quality up until about October and then since his mistake vs West Brom and his antics at Watford he has come back and got worse. His confidence is shot to pieces and we've seen that happen with him before, thankfully I think a new regime will get players like him, Mahrez and hopefully Vardy back on it, the worry si though the defence look fcuked.
the fox Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 You know what, I want blame huth and morgan for not being able to pass from the back any more. I put the majority of the blame on Drinkwater. They are not a ball playing CBs and the teams knows it. I am tired of other midfielders doing his job for him. Last season, kantè(I won't say carried him) did most of the job ( intercepting the ball as a DM and going forward with the ball as a box to box ) and n'didi seemed to do the same(it was really obvious against Swansea city). If I said it once, I said it a million time, what is his job and what is he doing exactly?. He is not a DM and I am pretty sure he is not a box to box. Why was he not helping the CBs last game. To say the truth, I don't rate his type of CMs. Why didn't he evolve? I respect hendo a lot because he knew what he needed to work on in order to become an amazing player, he is now a quality box to box with a very good passing range and I wished drinkwater did they same.
TheMightySystem Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 19 minutes ago, the fox said: You know what, I want blame huth and morgan for not being able to pass from the back any more. I put the majority of the blame on Drinkwater. They are not a ball playing CBs and the teams knows it. I am tired of other midfielders doing his job for him. Last season, kantè(I won't say carried him) did most of the job ( intercepting the ball as a DM and going forward with the ball as a box to box ) and n'didi seemed to do the same(it was really obvious against Swansea city). If I said it once, I said it a million time, what is his job and what is he doing exactly?. He is not a DM and I am pretty sure he is not a box to box. Why was he not helping the CBs last game. To say the truth, I don't rate his type of CMs. Why didn't he evolve? I respect hendo a lot because he knew what he needed to work on in order to become an amazing player, he is now a quality box to box with a very good passing range and I wished drinkwater did they same. I think he was helping the defense too much when in possession. Always dropping to be a third CB only to collect the ball, look up and see no-one to pass to because he should be the one being passed to from the defense. 20 minutes to go from time needing 2 goals and he was in the Lb role for god knows what reason and then smashed it out of play. King shows what Drinkwater needs to be doing to collect the ball. Against Derby (reserves) he stayed in the midfield but was always moving to make himself available and never dropped too deep so that he was a CB, are people really going to say that Morgan and Huth can't pass the ball 20 yards if there is a worthwhile pass available? To many players in the 11 yesterday wouldn't move to make passing options hence players like Ndidi and Gray having to go it alone to try and force the issue. Needs to be dropped for a while and its a shame im saying that as im sure most people would say he was our player of the season before the injury against Porto.
foxy boxing Posted 13 February 2017 Posted 13 February 2017 yes he's been disappointing the last few games and he is the midfield creator, the one we look to ,to spread the passes around and go charging forward. it doesn't help the fact that we are constantly being outnumbered in midfield and that teams know he is our engine so stop him stop the supply to the front players. apart from him we have very little experience in central midfield
Jimmy Posted 15 February 2017 Posted 15 February 2017 On 13/02/2017 at 11:03, foxy boxing said: yes he's been disappointing the last few games and he is the midfield creator, the one we look to ,to spread the passes around and go charging forward. it doesn't help the fact that we are constantly being outnumbered in midfield and that teams know he is our engine so stop him stop the supply to the front players. apart from him we have very little experience in central midfield he is constantly 15-20 yards too deep as mentioned above, both King and Mendy were that much higher, received the ball on the half term and didn't just smash the ball straight back where it came from, instead they laid it off to each other and quickly got the ball to the attacking players who were in one on ones with recovering defenders instead of dwelling on the ball and waiting until the defence is set and the pass is no longer on
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