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Drop or rest Mahrez or Vardy??

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Posted

Vardy cannot play, through no fault of his own but we just do not play to his strengths at the moment and there is no point in continuing with him in the hope something magically happens.

 

 

Mahrez plays, simple as that.

Posted
18 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Vardy and Mahrez are still the two players in our squad that can do damage to any opposition in this league. Without the key ingredient to allow them to that damage I.e. A quick turnover of possession, they either need to adapt in the same system or we need to find ways to make them as effective in an alternative system. I don't think there lack of form is simply fix by dropping them if they come back to the same handicap. 

 

I Would look to adapt the system to suit them. If that doesn't work, yes drop them but we do not have the luxury of being stubborn in our approach and not accommodating our two most influential players.

I agree, ideally we need to find a way of getting this pair in the games but that means changing the system which doesn't look like it's going to happen. It simply is not working for them as things stand so let someone else show what they can do. 

 

Its difficult to see where a win is coming from without without changing the team. 

Guest CityFan 06
Posted

I have thought myself a rest for Mahrez and Vardy might really benefit them both, but at the same time we wouldn't want them to feel like they're being dropped. Ultimately it would be down to how they both react individually, if they weren't in the team.  

Posted
3 hours ago, CityFan 06 said:

I have thought myself a rest for Mahrez and Vardy might really benefit them both, but at the same time we wouldn't want them to feel like they're being dropped. Ultimately it would be down to how they both react individually, if they weren't in the team.  

Disagree. They are not putting in a shift at the moment so they should actually be dropped - and know the reason why. No one should be guaranteed a place in a side if they don´ perform - and neither Mahreez nor Vardy do...

Posted

Drop Vardy, yes. Easy decision. Teams aren't letting him get service. Plus no Drinky, so none of their understanding.

 

But not Mahrez. I can't understand why people would want Mahrez dropped. He hasn't been great, but that's not his fault imo. He hasn't had the service or support, change the formation or other players and he'll do fine.

Posted
9 hours ago, ozvaldo said:

I'd do this (or something like this when we have a fully fit squad):

3-5-2

Kasper
Hernandez, Huth, Wes,
Albrighton, Mendy, Drinky, Amartey, Fuchs,
Okazaki, Slimani

 

- Slimani is a fantastic header of the ball.  I'd like to see Albrighton and Fuchs whipping balls into him, whilst getting back to defend when they need to.
- I think Drinky needs Mendy & Amartey either side of him to free him up & allow him to be the playmaker he needs to be.
- Okazaki will drop deep when he needs to, to offer more support to the midfield.

Musa, Gray, James, Vardy, Mahrez, Chilwell & Zieler

No pace in this team though. Perhaps with 3 in midfield could afford to swap Okazaki for Musa or Gray.

 

Edit: Maybe Schlupp instead of Fuchs? Reprises his role in the great escape.

Posted

Vardy IMO has done little wrong. He was getting put through by Oka, Mahrez and DD plenty last season but apart from the season opener at Hull I cant remember that many times he has been put through. On the odd occasion he has been put through he has won penos or even set up some chances. Dropping him or Mahrez wont give them the main thing they lack from last season, confidence! They need to play themselves into form. Get them in and get them earning their keep!!

Posted
9 minutes ago, crazyleicester said:

Vardy IMO has done little wrong. He was getting put through by Oka, Mahrez and DD plenty last season but apart from the season opener at Hull I cant remember that many times he has been put through. On the odd occasion he has been put through he has won penos or even set up some chances. Dropping him or Mahrez wont give them the main thing they lack from last season, confidence! They need to play themselves into form. Get them in and get them earning their keep!!

Vardy's excellent touch from last season seems to have deserted him though. Countless times this season that me and the old man have commented that "he would have scored that last season".

Posted

Why on earth would anyone drop Mahrez, probably the most skilful player every to have pulled on the shirt and not particularly out of form?  He's just getting marked by two or three men when he gets the ball.  Where else is our creativity going to come from?  If Mahrez needs a rest, perhaps we should give him the Porto game off.  If he doesn't need a rest, he is in my starting XI without question.

 

Presently, I would put Vardy on the bench and start with Slimani.  I would not have expected to say that at the start of the season, but Vardy is so far off the pace and his best at the moment.  He's barely had more than a handful of shots on target all season.  Slimani scores goals.

Posted
23 minutes ago, crazyleicester said:

Vardy IMO has done little wrong. He was getting put through by Oka, Mahrez and DD plenty last season but apart from the season opener at Hull I cant remember that many times he has been put through. On the odd occasion he has been put through he has won penos or even set up some chances. Dropping him or Mahrez wont give them the main thing they lack from last season, confidence! They need to play themselves into form. Get them in and get them earning their keep!!

4 shots on target all season from our main striker isn't brilliant though...

Posted
1 hour ago, FireFox said:

Drop Vardy, yes. Easy decision. Teams aren't letting him get service. Plus no Drinky, so none of their understanding.

 

But not Mahrez. I can't understand why people would want Mahrez dropped. He hasn't been great, but that's not his fault imo. He hasn't had the service or support, change the formation or other players and he'll do fine.

I think he's had quite a bit of the ball but done nothing with it 

Posted
1 hour ago, WigstonWanderer said:

No pace in this team though. Perhaps with 3 in midfield could afford to swap Okazaki for Musa or Gray.

 

Edit: Maybe Schlupp instead of Fuchs? Reprises his role in the great escape.

I hear you.

Gray could definitely do that No.10 role and I'd like to see Schlupp feature, it's just his crossing isn't great.  But he'd definitely be up and down quicker than Fuchs.

 

I think the 352 just offers us better options and is far more flexible than the rigid, predictable 442.    

Posted

Don't know about dropping them but resting them from a starting place, I was listening to someone who thinks we should utilise a 3-2-3-2 and utilise gray and Hernandez as wingbacks instead of a boring 4-4-2 ?

 

at the min whilst our Viking is injured and Drinkwater is suspended !

 

                          Zieler  

     

        Huth      Morgan.     Fuchs

 

Hernandez                                Gray

          

             Mendy  King.   Musa

 

                      Okazaki

      

                        Slimani 

 

subs  Vardy Mahrez Ulloa Albrighton James Simpson Hamer ?

 

Bit of a different formation for us but gives us depth on the wings still able to play the hitting on the break play the ball more tho feet rather than hoofing the ball up field ???

something needs doing as people have said we've been found out or the other teams give us this extra 10% as we're champions, well most don't subscribe to that it's a case of we're far to busy hoofing the ball to Vardy and he's being beaten to the ball more than last season he actually looks knackered at times earlier in the game rest him for a while bring him on later in the game build his confidence back!

And as for Claudio getting Sacked don't be so fooking pathetic what a fookingbstupid statement to make !

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS AND IN CLAUDIO WE STILL TRUST !!

             

Posted

Drop Mahrez. Getting sick of his clueless, not giving a sh*t performances. Said this a lot about Mahrez last season but he came back with a bang, but he's been found out this season. Double on his side and he's out of the game? Just sick of his attitude, anyone else feeling the same?

Posted

We rely too much on Mahrez and Drinkwater to create chances. Mahrez frustrates me when he takes on one player too many, but it seems as if the players give the ball to Mahrez and expect him to come up with something.

 

If anything, he needs to know when to pass for me. He beats two players - for example - and instead of releasing the ball he'll try and take another on and he'll lose the ball. I don't mind it once a match but 90% of the time is frustrating to watch.

 

We haven't been creating any chances recently but if we drop Mahrez then all hope will be gone for me. We should drop Albrighton and bring in Gray or Musa IMO - a type of player who will run at defenders - might take the pressure off Mahrez a bit.

 

Posted

If we drop Mahrez and Kaputska and Gray are 'not ready' who else do we play ?

Posted
4 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

We rely too much on Mahrez and Drinkwater to create chances. Mahrez frustrates me when he takes on one player too many, but it seems as if the players give the ball to Mahrez and expect him to come up with something.

 

If anything, he needs to know when to pass for me. He beats two players - for example - and instead of releasing the ball he'll try and take another on and he'll lose the ball. I don't mind it once a match but 90% of the time is frustrating to watch.

 

We haven't been creating any chances recently but if we drop Mahrez then all hope will be gone for me. We should drop Albrighton and bring in Gray or Musa IMO - a type of player who will run at defenders - might take the pressure off Mahrez a bit.

 

My biggest problem with him. Theres no denying he's a quality player, but he's nowhere near as good as a lot of people think he is, because when it does come off (like you said, maybe 10% of the time at best) it looks good.

Guest the fox
Posted
6 minutes ago, Matt_Lcfc said:

Getting sick of his clueless, not giving a sh*t performances. Said this a lot about Mahrez last season but he came back with a bang, but he's been found out this season. Double on his side and he's out of the game? Just sick of his attitude, anyone else feeling the same?

Why are you so worked up by him, if even a poty performances was not enough for you to give him a pass

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Shaneb said:

If we drop Mahrez and Kaputska and Gray are 'not ready' who else do we play ?

Gray's most performances overall and goal at Man Utd makes me convinced he's rather ready to step up whenever required.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Shaneb said:

If we drop Mahrez and Kaputska and Gray are 'not ready' who else do we play ?

Musa didn't do anything wrong. In recent games he started looking good then just got dropped.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Musa didn't do anything wrong. In recent games he started looking good then just got dropped.

yeah I don't get managers decisions sometimes. the current line up we have lost a significant number of games. At this stage what harm is there dropping the likes of Mahrez, or giving someone else some game time. If it doesn't work...well we would have probably lost the game anyway.

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