volpeazzurro Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 22 hours ago, NewEnglandFox said: I can't think of many better individual performances in the last 2 months. Easily in my top 5. Yet somehow Claudio thought the answer was to take him off and we were subsequently shown up by 10 man club 2 leagues below us. He played OK against a 1st division side. He came off because he was blowing and not fit enough. So if he's not fit enough for that?? Looks a real talent for the future however.
NewEnglandFox Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 38 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: He played OK against a 1st division side. He came off because he was blowing and not fit enough. So if he's not fit enough for that?? Looks a real talent for the future however. Okazaki and Musa looked much worse. Comparably to those we had on the pitch he was much better. If he's not good enough for some external standard, they weren't either. I don't buy that argument at all.
Nick Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 He's been kept out of the side because he's been too lightweight and not yet made of the right stuff for the Premiership pace. Claudio was quite frank about that - he's been undergoing a training plan to get him fitter and stronger so now he's approaching competing for a place in the match day squad. Its really not some weird conspiracy.
Ric Flair Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 5 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: He's been kept out of the side because he's been too lightweight and not yet made of the right stuff for the Premiership pace. Claudio was quite frank about that - he's been undergoing a training plan to get him fitter and stronger so now he's approaching competing for a place in the match day squad. Its really not some weird conspiracy. But we've been dog shit for months now with no creativity in the attacking third. I don't care if he's not ready yet he'd be no worse than the rest of them as he's technically got ability that Musa, Okazaki and Albrighton could only dream about. 20 mins at the end of games probably wouldn't be enough given we're usually 3-0 down by then but I'd have given him a few first halves to try and pinch us a goal that might just lead to a draw or heaven forbid a win. Get him involved now for the rest of the season and worst case scenario he's integrated better for next season.
TheUltimateWinner Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 Has more technical ability than Musa, Schlupp, Okazaki and Albrighton put together, and all those names have had runs in the squad. Could you see any of the above doing this: Deserves at least a portion of playing time, would do no harm, agree he isn't the finished article but needs to be nurtured - that hasn't happened so far.
Nick Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: But we've been dog shit for months now with no creativity in the attacking third. I don't care if he's not ready yet he'd be no worse than the rest of them as he's technically got ability that Musa, Okazaki and Albrighton could only dream about. 20 mins at the end of games probably wouldn't be enough given we're usually 3-0 down by then but I'd have given him a few first halves to try and pinch us a goal that might just lead to a draw or heaven forbid a win. Get him involved now for the rest of the season and worst case scenario he's integrated better for next season. I hear you but he's a kid and arguably needs to earn his place in the side which includes being strong enough and fit enough for Prem football - he's probably getting a chance now because he's twice as fit and much stronger than he was 3 months ago!
Ric Flair Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 3 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: I hear you but he's a kid and arguably needs to earn his place in the side which includes being strong enough and fit enough for Prem football - he's probably getting a chance now because he's twice as fit and much stronger than he was 3 months ago! Possibly and I'm not arguing with you that's not the case I'm just frustrated when you see the dross of other so called established players. Ultimately it'll probably make no difference who played/plays as we're in turmoil, but the likes of Kapustka, Ndidi and Chilwell are the only bright sparks we have left of a disgracefully dark season. Champions League has been a fantastic experience in the first half of the season but right now I couldn't give a toss about it as the seriousness of the last few months is deep. We are in freefall.
Nick Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: Possibly and I'm not arguing with you that's not the case I'm just frustrated when you see the dross of other so called established players. Ultimately it'll probably make no difference who played/plays as we're in turmoil, but the likes of Kapustka, Ndidi and Chilwell are the only bright sparks we have left of a disgracefully dark season. Champions League has been a fantastic experience in the first half of the season but right now I couldn't give a toss about it as the seriousness of the last few months is deep. We are in freefall. I do wonder if we'll actually turn up on weds - its a European shop window and players may possibly raise their games.... deluded hope, I know!
Ric Flair Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 43 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: I do wonder if we'll actually turn up on weds - its a European shop window and players may possibly raise their games.... deluded hope, I know! It's likely to be the last chance for our under performing players to find the motivation to put on a show. We're in that much of a rut that a hefty loss on Wednesday and what's left for them? We're so bad in the league, the doom and gloom is getting worse by the game and I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel for this regime. Wednesday is massive for a potential shot in the arm or a shot joint blank in the face.
old koppite Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 He just has that look of class about him , with a light touch ( ok a couple of heavy touches on Saturday) , delicate chips, and nipping the ball off oppos. Yeah, if he does need more fitness then great potential
mozartfox Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 Question:. Saying Kapi is not fit seems odd to me.. For example, do we think the famous 4 across the back play with athleticism and stamina every week? I also think to say Kapi is not ready for the PL is bow-locks.. The majority of CR's Gladiators appear to out of their depth at the moment.. These type of excuses from the Management infuriate me. Give the lad a try!
matty98 Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 I really don't get why we seem to think a player has to have a certain level of strength to play football. I feel that's partly where we're going wrong, we're creating athletes not footballers.
vanity Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 On 2/19/2017 at 03:39, GingerrrFox said: I'd love to see a Gray, Kapustka, Mahrez 3 behind Slimani up top. Just once!! Yeah, you get it.
vanity Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 Who on the squad has better touch on the ball, sees angles better, and shows more consistently effective service? Kap is in the top 2 with Mahrez, no? Kap appears to see the field in a very special way, he's similar in that respect to an elite NBA passer like Jason Kidd or LeBron James, some players see angles of attack that the overwhelming majority of their peers cannot. I am not saying Kap can be elite -- though I am not saying he cannot be either -- but in terms of his vision and his ability to provide quality service, it was clear to me he drove the attack in the first half that could have resulted in 2-3 goals with better finishes. Why we wouldn't pair Kap with Mahrez and see what sort of opportunities that unlocks for our attack is beyond me. If Kap finishes the Millwall game, LCFC quite like wins or suffers through another replay. CR taking him out sabotaged the attack, and you have to wonder if that was deliberate.
vanity Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 3 hours ago, Swan Lesta said: I hear you but he's a kid and arguably needs to earn his place in the side which includes being strong enough and fit enough for Prem football - he's probably getting a chance now because he's twice as fit and much stronger than he was 3 months ago! His touch and vision is so valuable that we need to make allowances for him having failed to reach his physical ceiling, if that is even true. millwall is exceedingly physical, he was hardly overmateched. Sure, PL players combine that physicality with more skill than Millwall's players, but if the alleged problem is fitness/lack of physicality, I simply don't see it. At absolute worst, he can come in as a high-impact sub, Kap and Mahrez combined would provide the sort of service that has the potential to unlock the LCFC attack with very little downside.
Guest Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 Time for the little cabbage to get some game time. He had some good touches and neat, quick passing in his games so far and his fitness will only improve with minutes. Get him on the bloody pitch!
vanity Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 1 minute ago, toddybad said: Time for the little cabbage to get some game time. He had some good touches and neat, quick passing in his games so far and his fitness will only improve with minutes. Get him on the bloody pitch! Honestly, if he isn't fit at this point, LCFC is at fault. Run the kid daily in training if necessary. Have him run a mile daily, then two, get him on a training schedule for a 10k to start, force him into training if necessary, what is the problem here? How is he not simply being run ragged to build his stamina during training? No football, just freakin' run him, no? If that is even a real problem, which I am not convinced of. And if it is a real problem, he can only play a half, let him come on the last 30-35 minutes and go hard, we need someone with his abilities more than anything. One of our biggest issues is a lack of quality service. He addresses that to some extent, especially if he shares the pitch with Mahrez.
justfoxes Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 On 19/02/2017 at 11:05, Artur said: Full performance. How do you rate his performance? Someone has a lot of times on their hands ! But totally agree this lad is promising every time I've seen him play he gets better hoping this lad gets on against Seville and grabs the winner !!
lgfualol Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 5 hours ago, TheUltimateWinner said: Has more technical ability than Musa, Schlupp, Okazaki and Albrighton put together, and all those names have had runs in the squad. Could you see any of the above doing this: Musa's first touch would have put it out for a throw, Okazaki would have fallen over, Albrighton first time hoof out for a goalkick and Schlupp who knows. Needless to say Kapustka needs to play. Will shit all down my legs in anger if Okazaki ever starts as a number 10 again.
volpeazzurro Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 5 hours ago, NewEnglandFox said: Okazaki and Musa looked much worse. Comparably to those we had on the pitch he was much better. If he's not good enough for some external standard, they weren't either. I don't buy that argument at all. I have to agree re Musa, he's been very disappointing. Rapid yes, but needs to remember that there's a ball to take with him! Like many other players before him he's got to adapt to the pace of the Premiership and work on the strength that's required also. I'm led to believe, rightly or wrongly that after training both Armarty and now Ndidi are to be found in the gym working on their strength whereas allegedly your perhaps more likely to find Musa praying and thanking God somewhere for how lucky he is. I'm not knocking that and he's apparently he's a really nice bloke however, as my old grandma used to say, God helps helps those that help themselves!
lgfualol Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 5 hours ago, Ric Flair said: But we've been dog shit for months now with no creativity in the attacking third. I don't care if he's not ready yet he'd be no worse than the rest of them as he's technically got ability that Musa, Okazaki and Albrighton could only dream about. 20 mins at the end of games probably wouldn't be enough given we're usually 3-0 down by then but I'd have given him a few first halves to try and pinch us a goal that might just lead to a draw or heaven forbid a win. Get him involved now for the rest of the season and worst case scenario he's integrated better for next season. This. Considering we have finished a few games losing badly and only using 2 subs while Kap sat on the bench. I dont get it. Do we have to pay up if he makes an appearance or is Ranieri too scared to sub off his favourites
volpeazzurro Posted 20 February 2017 Posted 20 February 2017 3 minutes ago, lgfualol said: Musa's first touch would have put it out for a throw, Okazaki would have fallen over, Albrighton first time hoof out for a goalkick and Schlupp who knows. Needless to say Kapustka needs to play. Will shit all down my legs in anger if Okazaki ever starts as a number 10 again. You can see individuals entertaining the public by juggling the ball and showing tremendous technical ball skills at the Clocktower, yet they are probsbly crap footballers . Whilst I'm not suggesting that Kapustka is a juggler, as he's clearly a talented young lad, probably it's not his particular skill sets that will be required from the off tomorrow. If it's a closing down and harassing type of player with lots of stamina, then Kapustka is not your man. For stamina and technical ability he will be outgunned by most Seville players, he's nowhere near that good (Yet), but I think he'll get there. There's a good reason he's being used sparingly by a management that watch him everyday and not just two matches against opposition that is nowhere in the same league as teams like Seville or Liverpool.
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