Where is Nampalys Mendy??

[Babylon]

8 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Against Millwall, Mendy must have misplaced 9/10 passes he tried.

 

He constantly picked the ball up, tried to play it cross field and would always give it straight to a Millwall player as if he couldn't pass further than 10 yards.

 

Mendy impressed me at first (was it Middlesbrough where he first featured after injury??) but then after a couple of games that changed. I'm not having this "they've come into a bad side" too because Ndidi has looked more than comfortable. 

Just not true, he had the 3rd best pass success rate on the pitch and no they weren't all short backwards passes.

 

As for saying N'didi played well so it's no excuse. Not every player is the same you know. Drinkwater, Mahrez, Vardy, Fuchs etc were still playing poorly whilst N'didi was doing ok.., so that's proof of that.

 

N'didi will be a better player, he's just a far better fit for how we play. But can we not just wait and judge these players in a performing confident team.

[Guest CityFan 06]

I still have high hopes for Mendy, and he hasn't yet played in the position he did with Nice; the singular centre defensive midfielder. At his former club Nice, from the footage I've seen he was the singular CDM, the position was his. Mendy sat just in front of the defence, protected the back line and sprayed some excellent balls across the field with his vision. 

 

Yes, you could argue he should be able to adapt to our formation/systems, but I still see potential with Mendy, which is why I wouldn't want us to write him off.

 

If you think of it, we have Ndidi, Amartey and Mendy all competing for the CDM role. That's strong.

[VLC86]

2 minutes ago, CityFan 06 said:

I still have high hopes for Mendy, and he hasn't yet played in the position he did with Nice; the singular centre defensive midfielder. At his former club Nice, from the footage I've seen he was the singular CDM, the position was his. Mendy sat just in front of the defence, protected the back line and sprayed some excellent balls across the field with his vision. 

 

Yes, you could argue he should be able to adapt to our formation/systems, but I still see potential with Mendy, which is why I wouldn't want us to write him off.

 

If you think of it, we have Ndidi, Amartey and Mendy all competing for the CDM role. That's strong.

 

I still remember 2000 Leicester fans all wanting to murder him for his complete inability to do exactly that 3x in 10 minutes at Millwall.

[Guest CityFan 06]

4 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

 

I still remember 2000 Leicester fans all wanting to murder him for his complete inability to do exactly that 3x in 10 minutes at Millwall.

This is true, but hopefully like the other signings they may start to show their better potential now, since we've started playing much better of late.

[VLC86]

Just now, CityFan 06 said:

This is true, but hopefully like the other signings they may start to show their better potential now, since we've started playing much better of late

I think Shakey probably thinks he needs to work on his fitness before being trusted anywhere near our starting 11 and if we stick with 442 I can only see him coming in if we have an injury crisis.

[Guest Col city fan]

To be fair, I still think it's almost impossible to judge any players performances when they were playing in a team clearly devoid of idea, confidence and spirit.

Look at most of the squad under Pearson, on the terrible run before the great escape. I'm sure there were threads slating Morgan, Schlupp, and numerous others.

It then finally got sorted and they looked like different players.

Why can't the same thing happen now? If we start playing well again, generally, I'm sure the likes of Mendy will look much better than he has done. And to be fair, they've all looked bloody awful for most of the season.

Only then can we judge, I suggest.

The only thing I will add is I have a sneaky feeling that Shakey doesn't rate Mendy very much. No evidence, just a feeling. And I wouldn't be shocked if he goes in the summer.

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

Just not true, he had the 3rd best pass success rate on the pitch and no they weren't all short backwards passes.

 

As for saying N'didi played well so it's no excuse. Not every player is the same you know. Drinkwater, Mahrez, Vardy, Fuchs etc were still playing poorly whilst N'didi was doing ok.., so that's proof of that.

 

N'didi will be a better player, he's just a far better fit for how we play. But can we not just wait and judge these players in a performing confident team.

I was there and watched it regular. He was misplacing passes constantly. Stats are relative - the rest of team probably weren't connecting either.

 

I don't rate Mendy or Musa and I wouldn't be surprised if Shakespeare doesn't either but fair play if you continue to back them.

[Koke]

His passing was abysmal vs Millwall. Really bad.

 

I'm still willing to give him a chance under a new manager but Shakespeare doesn't fancy him and Musa. I woulfnt be surprised if we cut our losses on him in the summer.

[The Doctor]

11 hours ago, Fox92 said:

I'm not having this "they've come into a bad side" too because Ndidi has looked more than comfortable. 

Then, quite frankly, you are wrong. Ndidi has done very well, but ultimately they've all been playing in a really shoddy team. You can't realistically judge players actual ability from the last couple of months. Hell, watch back Drinkwaters performances from Christmas to Valentines day and you'd be baffled as to how he was a premier league player, let alone as to why we all thought he should have been in the England side last summer. Mendy got crocked on his debut and then came back into a side at it's nadir. We've not seen what he can actually do yet.

[HighPeakFox]

18 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

Then, quite frankly, you are wrong. Ndidi has done very well, but ultimately they've all been playing in a really shoddy team. You can't realistically judge players actual ability from the last couple of months. Hell, watch back Drinkwaters performances from Christmas to Valentines day and you'd be baffled as to how he was a premier league player, let alone as to why we all thought he should have been in the England side last summer. Mendy got crocked on his debut and then came back into a side at it's nadir. We've not seen what he can actually do yet.

I don't always agree with you Doc, but I do on this occasion.

[Fox92]

39 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

Then, quite frankly, you are wrong. Ndidi has done very well, but ultimately they've all been playing in a really shoddy team. You can't realistically judge players actual ability from the last couple of months. Hell, watch back Drinkwaters performances from Christmas to Valentines day and you'd be baffled as to how he was a premier league player, let alone as to why we all thought he should have been in the England side last summer. Mendy got crocked on his debut and then came back into a side at it's nadir. We've not seen what he can actually do yet.

As I said above I don't rate Mendy or Musa. Neither have featured in either of Shakespeare's squads and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't rate them. To think Ranieri actually wanted Mendy over Kante., good grief.

 

I've seen nothing from either player to suggest they have what it takes. Can't even get the basics right. Haven't improved our side at all... Wouldn't be surprised if both are gone in the summer. And then we'll count our loses because both have been a waste of money.

[The Doctor]

5 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

As I said above I don't rate Mendy or Musa. Neither have featured in either of Shakespeare's squads and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't rate them. To think Ranieri actually wanted Mendy over Kante., good grief.

 

I've seen nothing from either player to suggest they have what it takes. Can't even get the basics right. Haven't improved our side at all... Wouldn't be surprised if both are gone in the summer. And then we'll count our loses because both have been a waste of money.

Entirely missing the point. If Drinkwater was a new signing people would be asking how we got conned into spending money on him. He's played very poorly, Mahrez has been on the periphery, Vardy, prior to liverpool, had scored in 1 of his last 20 odd league games. All players proven to be very good for us. When even known quality is underperforming you cannot judge whether new signings have what it takes. 

[Fox92]

13 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

Entirely missing the point. If Drinkwater was a new signing people would be asking how we got conned into spending money on him. He's played very poorly, Mahrez has been on the periphery, Vardy, prior to liverpool, had scored in 1 of his last 20 odd league games. All players proven to be very good for us. When even known quality is underperforming you cannot judge whether new signings have what it takes. 

Musa and Mendy "know quality"? .... You're missing my point. I've said time and time again these players in particular don't even get the basics right. I've seen League Two players with a better first touch than Musa.

[The Doctor]

15 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Musa and Mendy "know quality"? .... You're missing my point. I've said time and time again these players in particular don't even get the basics right. I've seen League Two players with a better first touch than Musa.

No. Drinkwater, Vardy and Mahrez are known quality. No idea where you've got the idea that I said those two were known quality.

 

Very much pot kettle then - Known quality (that's drinkwater, vardy and mahrez btw) haven't got the basics right in the past couple of months. They've (now we're talking Mendy and Musa) been frustrating, Musa more so than any player I've ever seen for us, but anyone writing them off as not good enough on the back of two months where our standout players from last season have looked barely capable is knee-jerking at best.

[Koke]

Even new players who are settling in and are playing poorly are still expected to get the basics right. Control, pass etc. Musa can barely control a football. Shocking technique. I'm fine with players settling in but I'm not fine with players unable to control and look after a ball.

 

Jury is still out on Mendy but I have little hope in Musa. 

[The Doctor]

1 minute ago, Koke said:

Even new players who are settling in and are playing poorly are still expected to get the basics right. Control, pass etc. Musa can barely control a football. Shocking technique. I'm fine with players settling in but I'm not fine with players unable to control and look after a ball.

 

Jury is still out on Mendy but I have little hope in Musa. 

Are we talking about the new signings or our title winning back four?

[Koke]

38 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

Are we talking about the new signings or our title winning back four?

 

At least our back four have other redeeming qualities. Musa hasn't. Schlupp got ripped on here for being brain dead. Musa is just as brain dead. 

[Nickfosse]

I rather fear that Claudio's decision to go for Mendy rather than Gueye last Summer ultimately cost him his job.

Fragile business football management. One slight slip and the consequences bite you hard.

[funkyrobot]

13 hours ago, Shaneb said:

Because at some point someone will get injured, be tired or we  just need a fresh pair of legs to play the last 10 minutes.

Yes but there are 4 players ahead of him in the pecking order. 

[AmarteyAndChill]

8 minutes ago, Nickfosse said:

I rather fear that Claudio's decision to go for Mendy rather than Gueye last Summer ultimately cost him his job.

Fragile business football management. One slight slip and the consequences bite you hard.

I'm actually glad we didn't get Gueye now because we wouldn't have got Ndidi in January. 

[funkyrobot]

1 hour ago, The Doctor said:

No. Drinkwater, Vardy and Mahrez are known quality. No idea where you've got the idea that I said those two were known quality.

 

Very much pot kettle then - Known quality (that's drinkwater, vardy and mahrez btw) haven't got the basics right in the past couple of months. They've (now we're talking Mendy and Musa) been frustrating, Musa more so than any player I've ever seen for us, but anyone writing them off as not good enough on the back of two months where our standout players from last season have looked barely capable is knee-jerking at best.

Yes but surely we would've seen a flash of something from Mendy by now. A turn, a pass, a shot or whatever. Something that we could hold on to. We simply haven't seen anything from him and that includes in pre season. Not one split second of football that would allow us to say, 'this lad's got potential' his performances have been bang average to pith poor and that's why he's not in the squad. 

[The Doctor]

14 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Yes but surely we would've seen a flash of something from Mendy by now. A turn, a pass, a shot or whatever. Something that we could hold on to. We simply haven't seen anything from him and that includes in pre season. Not one split second of football that would allow us to say, 'this lad's got potential' his performances have been bang average to pith poor and that's why he's not in the squad. 

Looked solid enough vs Middlesbrough as I recall, sure people who got to go to Everton said similar. He's a water-carrier after all - he's not going to get people out of their seats like Mahrez or Grey will.

[drofmor55]

Was at the Spurs v Everton match last week..Gueye was never in the game and looked lightweight....

I know the Everton fans see him every match and rate him highly  but give me Ndidi anyday

[AmarteyAndChill]

41 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

Looked solid enough vs Middlesbrough as I recall, sure people who got to go to Everton said similar. He's a water-carrier after all - he's not going to get people out of their seats like Mahrez or Grey will.

He played at the base of a 3. His best position.

[AmarteyAndChill]

37 minutes ago, drofmor55 said:

Was at the Spurs v Everton match last week..Gueye was never in the game and looked lightweight....

I know the Everton fans see him every match and rate him highly  but give me Ndidi anyday

He's a decent player, great tackler and has lots of energy. That's it really. Ndidi has more in his locker.