Where is Nampalys Mendy??

[Finnegan]

Player basically misses an entire year through injury.

 

Col city fox: I have a feel he hasn't been fit all season.

 

 

#standardcol

[Guest Col city fan]

15 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Player basically misses an entire year through injury.

 

Col city fox: I have a feel he hasn't been fit all season.

 

 

#standardcol

A post created to wind-up..

#standard'finners'

[Babylon]

45 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Its been a really weird season. Both Slim and Mendy, I think, weren't plagued too much by injury before they joined us. NOW, they look like a pair of sick notes. Very disappointing that we should spend so much dosh on two players who have played so little football. The question now is do we keep them and hope they return to full fitness, or cut our losses? Slimani at 30 million and God knows what wages is looking like one if the worst buys of the season for any Prem club.

Would be silly to get rid of any of them. We've not seen any of them really playing in the team now it's functioning as a unit again. Common sense should dictate that they are given a chance. There will be spaces in the squad opening up with others going, for us to not need to sell to buy and improve the team.

 

Lets look back at all our signings in recent years, even if they haven't ripped up trees here, they have often gone on elsewhere to produce the goods over time. So lets have some faith in our scouting that they can come good. They were thrown into a new country and a new team with a massive hangover of last year. Lets see them in a hungry and motivated team again and decide then.

 

Chucking away tens of millions of pounds is not something that should be done lightly.

 

 

 

 

[notnow john]

23 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Would be silly to get rid of any of them. We've not seen any of them really playing in the team now it's functioning as a unit again. Common sense should dictate that they are given a chance. There will be spaces in the squad opening up with others going, for us to not need to sell to buy and improve the team.

 

Lets look back at all our signings in recent years, even if they haven't ripped up trees here, they have often gone on elsewhere to produce the goods over time. So lets have some faith in our scouting that they can come good. They were thrown into a new country and a new team with a massive hangover of last year. Lets see them in a hungry and motivated team again and decide then.

 

Chucking away tens of millions of pounds is not something that should be done lightly.

 

 

 

 

Great post,sums it up perfectly.

 

Has your account been hacked?

[foxy boxing]

Mendy needs a full season virtually injury free with us to see how he beds in and settles into the team to show what he can do on a regular basis playing regularly alongside Drinkwater and Heidi and then people can judge his performances

[Sol thewall Bamba]

5 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Those who are slagging Mendy and Musa off - what were your thoughts on Vardy during his first season?

This is such a lazy comparison. Vardy was a one off. A complete long shot. If we had this attitude towards everyone in the squad we'd never get rid of anyone and the squad would never develop. 

 

"Why did we bin Hernandez? We should have kept him just on the off chance that suddenly he becomes the next Cafu. We should have kept Liam Moore, there was a very very tiny chance that he could become the best centre back in the country, why did we let him go?

[Babylon]

15 minutes ago, notnow john said:

Great post,sums it up perfectly.

 

Has your account been hacked?

Are you suggesting I don't usually make sense

[Babylon]

8 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

This is such a lazy comparison. Vardy was a one off. A complete long shot. If we had this attitude towards everyone in the squad we'd never get rid of anyone and the squad would never develop. 

 

"Why did we bin Hernandez? We should have kept him just on the off chance that suddenly he becomes the next Cafu. We should have kept Liam Moore, there was a very very tiny chance that he could become the best centre back in the country, why did we let him go?

That would be fine if it were a one off, but it hasn't been, exactly the same happened with Drinkwater. Some people take time to adjust to their level or their new team and some people don't.

 

Liam Moore isn't exactly a great comparison, the lad had a lot of chances over several years and every season ended up losing his place in the team.

 

Hernandez you could easily argue that he wasn't given a chance at CB. Benny has shown himself to be an able deputy recently, when most people had written him off.

[dannythefox]

Won't get the chance here our best hope is Raniari gets the Watford job then wants to buy him. Matty James is the one we need back playing.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

5 minutes ago, Babylon said:

That would be fine if it were a one off, but it hasn't been, exactly the same happened with Drinkwater. Some people take time to adjust to their level or their new team and some people don't.

 

Liam Moore isn't exactly a great comparison, the lad had a lot of chances over several years and every season ended up losing his place in the team.

 

Hernandez you could easily argue that he wasn't given a chance at CB. Benny has shown himself to be an able deputy recently, when most people had written him off.

Hernandez is the closest comparison I could have possibly made. Came in over the summer from a foreign league with no experience in the PL just like Musa and Mendy. Blew nobody away and struggled to adapt to this league. He left and nobody was that bothered. I'm struggling to see the difference personally, the only difference really in Hernandez was a few years older, but he still had a good 4 or 5 years in him which is longer than I can see Musa and Mendy being here for. 

[Koke]

I'd give all the 2016 signings another full season.  I don't rate Musa at all but I'm fine with it if Shakespeare keeps him here next season (hoping Musa proves me wrong). Slimani look decent so I'd 100% keep him unless a silly bid from China comes in. Mendy looked like a League One player against Millwall but I feel sorry for the lad. I hope we give him a full season here. It took 2 years to finally see that Benny is a useful player to have. 

 

Hernandez was binned off too early IMO.

 

It's staggering that 2 years after his departure most of the starters are still Pearson signings.

 

EDIT: Kapustka is another player we signed that we had no plans for. Our 2016 summer window was a total car crash. 

[Redouane]

13 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

Won't get the chance here our best hope is Raniari gets the Watford job then wants to buy him. Matty James is the one we need back playing.

Why would he not get a chance here? You can't rely on Ndidi all season, what if he gets injured?

 

Its not fair to judge the lad on his 4 first appearances when the whole squad was in bad form. 

[Guest]

Musa needs to go. Possibly slim too. Mendy I'll leave to what shaky has seen in training

[Babylon]

5 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Hernandez is the closest comparison I could have possibly made. Came in over the summer from a foreign league with no experience in the PL just like Musa and Mendy. Blew nobody away and struggled to adapt to this league. He left and nobody was that bothered. I'm struggling to see the difference personally, the only difference really in Hernandez was a few years older, but he still had a good 4 or 5 years in him which is longer than I can see Musa and Mendy being here for. 

It's a lot easier to cast people aside when they didn't cost anything and you're actually making a profit on them. When you've made a huge investment in players you really need to be as sure as you can be that they were a mistake. I don't think we're at that level yet where we should be happy to write off huge losses on them. Especially when there isn't really any need to, there will be other spaces opening up in the squad that can be filled first. We're likely to lose a striker, Was will retire or move on, Wague won't be back, Kapustka will probably have a load deal somewhere, Benny might decide he no longer wants to be bench fodder etc.

 

Biggest question marks would be around the CM position, Drinkwater, N'Didi, Mendy, King, James, Amartey (although he'll continue to cover lots of positions). We could do with a creative player in there, which means we might need to lose a player. I'd say Mendy out of all the new signings could end up being the guy most as risk. Another manager might lose King or James, but I can see Shakey wanting to keep them, for more than just ability reasons.

[Gerard]

12 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Is he rating as one of City's worst signings in recent years, for the money we paid etc?

 

Value for money you can take your pick with all this season's signings apart from Ndidi.

 

£70m spent in the summer and not one of them gets in the first team. Musa and Mendy have even struggled to get on the bench at times. We spent money like a drunk in a strip club and got a similar amount of value.

[M0901]

It's unfair and unjust to sell Mendy. If he gets over his injuries in the summer we should give him a shot in the team. 

 

Who knows, he could be a good player for us. I just think slagging him off and wanting rid too early is a mistake. Let's hope he recovers.

[ealingfox]

I think he's been a shocking signing but like the others I'd give him a second season, apart from Slimani who I'd sell in the event that we could still get a good offer from China or something. Hernandez was certainly binned too early and would probably be playing at the moment if he were still here. Ranieri is largely at fault for them all looking so doggo.

[MC Prussian]

1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Hernandez is the closest comparison I could have possibly made. Came in over the summer from a foreign league with no experience in the PL just like Musa and Mendy. Blew nobody away and struggled to adapt to this league. He left and nobody was that bothered. I'm struggling to see the difference personally, the only difference really in Hernandez was a few years older, but he still had a good 4 or 5 years in him which is longer than I can see Musa and Mendy being here for. 

Strange example to make: Hernandez was always going to be our 3rd (or 4th choice) centre-back, there simply was/is no way past Morgan and Huth.

 

He was then used as a right-back (not particularly his forte) and left on good terms with the club, in the search of more time on the pitch elsewhere. Four league matches in four months just weren't enough. I think he was also homesick and the signing a bit of a misunderstanding - not particularly Hernandez' fault.

He featured little and may have had a bigger, better impact. But to use him in a comparison here doesn't really work.

[funkyrobot]

I've not seen anything from Mendy to suggest he's worth persevering with. Cut our losses and get rid. I'd rather see James back and a new signing that can fulfill a creative role in the middle. While we're at it, get a quality replacement for Shinji! 

[M0901]

16 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

I've not seen anything from Mendy to suggest he's worth persevering with. Cut our losses and get rid. I'd rather see James back and a new signing that can fulfill a creative role in the middle. While we're at it, get a quality replacement for Shinji! 

I'd be surprised if you had seen anything as he's only played 4 games!

 

Give the man a chance.

 

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

22 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

Strange example to make: Hernandez was always going to be our 3rd (or 4th choice) centre-back, there simply was/is no way past Morgan and Huth.

 

He was then used as a right-back (not particularly his forte) and left on good terms with the club, in the search of more time on the pitch elsewhere. Four league matches in four months just weren't enough. I think he was also homesick and the signing a bit of a misunderstanding - not particularly Hernandez' fault.

He featured little and may have had a bigger, better impact. But to use him in a comparison here doesn't really work.

Why is it a poor example? Hernandez was signed to provide this mythical "competition for places" that everyone goes on about. So was Mendy, so was Musa. They all came in as unknowns who would have to compete with existing first teamers to get a starting birth. You could argue that Mendy was a little different becasue Kante left, but he was still competing with others at a similar level. The "Hernandez wasn't a right back" thing doesn't really work either becasue we haven't given Musa the chance to nail down his best starting position ie is he a winger or a striker as nobody really knows. 

 

It's a perfectly reasonable comparison to make imo. 

[VLC86]

2 hours ago, toddybad said:

Musa needs to go. Possibly slim too. Mendy I'll leave to what shaky has seen in training

An ankle made from red Leicester and him being the worst player on the pitch v Millwall = Bin.

 

Anyone saying give him and Musa especially another chance are being way too soft. Feel free to reply with just Vardy, Drinkwater etc.

[Guest Danny Clender]

Having gone through the season with many formations and the team re-re-re-settling on 4-4-2.

From the little we have seen, I can't see where he fits in. 

[HighPeakFox]

3 hours ago, foxy boxing said:

Mendy needs a full season virtually injury free with us to see how he beds in and settles into the team to show what he can do on a regular basis playing regularly alongside Drinkwater and Heidi and then people can judge his performances

Cracking auto correct. 

[Babylon]

35 minutes ago, Danny Clender said:

Having gone through the season with many formations and the team re-re-re-settling on 4-4-2.

From the little we have seen, I can't see where he fits in. 

I can only see him being back up defensive midfielder unless we change formation to a 3 now and again. That's why I think he's most at risk out of all of them to make a swift return to France. We have a few people who can cover that, even DD is a decent DM if you just wanted him to do that. We need a real creative talent and I can see us swapping him.