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General Election, June 8th

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Foxxed

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On 2017-4-25 at 12:38, Webbo said:

You're required to help a police investigation.

 

I've not claimed it was the right thing to do, I'm just saying nobody cares. Do you really think that people would be so angry about this that they'd gladly have 5 years of Corbyn in power because of it?

Party preference is irrelevant. And 2015 specific seat reruns wouldn't necessarily give Corbyn power. Fraud is fraud. Fraud absolved by a 'greater good' is still fraud. It may even be worse.

 

May forced a snap election after she realised the electoral fraud investigation could obliterate her majority - a majority created from 18 Tory-Lib marginal gains now under investigation.

 

The Tories realise those traditionally Lib Dem marginals in the South West would vote Lib Dem in 2015 election reruns. Especially so if the Tories are found guilty of election fraud - Tory campaigners levelling claims of campaign fund misuse against their own party.

 

The Lib Dems can legally ask for those 2015 Tory-Lib marginals under investigation to be rerun after the final report is published - at a time of further rising prices, falling spending, worrying trade with China and US, territory disputes, losing banking contracts and incoming tariffs.

 

The Crown Prosecution service will publish the final report just before the election, but any 2015 seat reruns will take place after it, by which time the Tories will have a big enough majority not to need the South West seats under investigation.

 

You may not like the opposition, but when a invincible government rushes to protect itself from losses through fraud obliterating any opposition in the process it may not leave a sweet taste in your mouth.

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19 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

Party preference is irrelevant. And 2015 specific seat reruns wouldn't necessarily give Corbyn power. Fraud is fraud. Fraud absolved by a 'greater good' is still fraud. It may even be worse.

 

May forced a snap election after she realised the electoral fraud investigation could obliterate her majority - a majority created from 18 Tory-Lib marginal gains now under investigation.

 

The Tories realise those traditionally Lib Dem marginals in the South West would vote Lib Dem in 2015 election reruns. Especially so if the Tories are found guilty of election fraud - Tory campaigners levelling claims of campaign fund misuse against their own party.

 

The Lib Dems can legally ask for those 2015 Tory-Lib marginals under investigation to be rerun after the final report is published - at a time of further rising prices, falling spending, worrying trade with China and US, territory disputes, losing banking contracts and incoming tariffs.

 

The Crown Prosecution service will publish the final report just before the election, but any 2015 seat reruns will take place after it, by which time the Tories will have a big enough majority not to need the South West seats under investigation.

 

You may not like the opposition, but when a invincible government rushes to protect itself from losses through fraud obliterating any opposition in the process it may not leave a sweet taste in your mouth.

It doesn't, but with the state of labour atm it's hard to get excited over it.

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7 hours ago, Buce said:

 

Boris says UK would consider joining US in bombing Assad, without parliamentary approval:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/apr/27/general-election-2017-zac-goldsmith-boris-johnson-brighton-tactical-politics-live

he's on a ****ing roll in the last 24 hours. he not fancy being an MP any more? 

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2 minutes ago, Thracian said:

There will still be some in denial but my stated bias of the BBC is now beyond question. They wouldn't have found it hard to find a Corbyn activist either - the  NHS is awash with them - Including the GPs.  .  

 

     http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4451366/Fury-BBC-News-interview-Corbyn-supporting-nurse.html

I'm sorry I don't understand were we meant to think a NURSE appearing on TV opposing current policies and job conditions wasn't going to vote for the opposition?

 

Im beginning to think you are actually crazy neurotic with this weird agenda it's actually all a bit silly....

 

Everybody knows the BBC leans left in certain areas due to the leanings of executives, directors, producers and journalists - it also though is fairly balanced and right leaning in some circumstances too. Why don't you just watch FOX and SKY read the Daily Mail and let it go you weirdo!

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10 minutes ago, Thracian said:

There will still be some in denial but the glaring bias of the BBC is now beyond question.

This is becoming obsessive now. 

 

I saw this today and thought of you. Interesting, how the same paranoid views can often manifest themselves amongst polar opposites...

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nick-robinson-ken-loach-booed-trade-tory-bias-union-communication-workers-event-bbc-today-jeremy-a7705141.html

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

https://audioboom.com/posts/5862107-mugwump

 

This "strong and stable" thing is going a bit far now

 

Repeating soundbites ad infinitum is how they tell the proles what to think: Workers and Shirkers; Strivers and Skivers; Coalition of Chaos etc.

 

It's like Animal Farm - Four legs good, two legs bad.... Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37380805

 

"Nigel Farage aide defects to Tories claiming a mass exodus from Ukip"

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/795222/Paul-Nuttall-Ukip-Labour-Tory-seats-Election-2017

 

"Ukip vow not to challenge Tories in key seats to secure Brexit support in Parliament"

 

 

Copeland was won on a move of UKIP voters to the Tories.

 

...

 

So UKIP - the party keen on 'at risk' vaginal examinations - are tacticaly voting to give May hard destructive Brexit MPs that will fight tooth and nail against her.

 

UKIP are now looking indistinguishable from hard destructive Brexit Tories - no wonder since UKIP's millionaire financial backer was firstly an angry Tory donor seeing the Tories as too left wing.

 

Even if May wants new MPs to fight against her hard destructive Brexit Tory MPs - she'll get MPs that will tear asunder both her party and economic plans.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37380805

 

"Nigel Farage aide defects to Tories claiming a mass exodus from Ukip"

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/795222/Paul-Nuttall-Ukip-Labour-Tory-seats-Election-2017

 

"Ukip vow not to challenge Tories in key seats to secure Brexit support in Parliament"

 

 

Copeland was won on a move of UKIP voters to the Tories.

 

...

 

So UKIP - the party keen on 'at risk' vaginal examinations - are tacticaly voting to give May hard destructive Brexit MPs that will fight tooth and nail against her.

 

UKIP are now looking indistinguishable from hard destructive Brexit Tories - no wonder since UKIP's millionaire financial backer was firstly an angry Tory donor seeing the Tories as too left wing.

 

Even if May wants new MPs to fight against her hard destructive Brexit Tory MPs - she'll get MPs that will tear asunder both her party and economic plans.

 

 

Do you think you've changed anyone's mind yet?

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6 hours ago, Foxxed said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37380805

 

"Nigel Farage aide defects to Tories claiming a mass exodus from Ukip"

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/795222/Paul-Nuttall-Ukip-Labour-Tory-seats-Election-2017

 

"Ukip vow not to challenge Tories in key seats to secure Brexit support in Parliament"

 

 

Copeland was won on a move of UKIP voters to the Tories.

 

...

 

So UKIP - the party keen on 'at risk' vaginal examinations - are tacticaly voting to give May hard destructive Brexit MPs that will fight tooth and nail against her.

 

UKIP are now looking indistinguishable from hard destructive Brexit Tories - no wonder since UKIP's millionaire financial backer was firstly an angry Tory donor seeing the Tories as too left wing.

 

Even if May wants new MPs to fight against her hard destructive Brexit Tory MPs - she'll get MPs that will tear asunder both her party and economic plans.

 

 

 

We can but hope.

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I'm assuming @MattP is busy or he's just not bothered because it's a poll that doesn't back his stance and he can't get excited about it, because he's normally posting poll news almost before it's reported, but Labour cut the Tories lead by 7 points.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-lead-labour-cut-seven-points-general-election-poll-latest-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-a7704796.html

 

Granted it's a bit like Sunderland winning a game and thinking they're catching Chelsea, but it's still a bit of a swing to Labour.

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3 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

I'm assuming @MattP is busy or he's just not bothered because it's a poll that doesn't back his stance and he can't get excited about it, because he's normally posting poll news almost before it's reported, but Labour cut the Tories lead by 7 points.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-lead-labour-cut-seven-points-general-election-poll-latest-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-a7704796.html

 

Granted it's a bit like Sunderland winning a game and thinking they're catching Chelsea, but it's still a bit of a swing to Labour.

A bit off the tories and a bit off the liberals. I would prefer to see a mini labour surge than see LDs gain much ground.

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6 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

I'm assuming @MattP is busy or he's just not bothered because it's a poll that doesn't back his stance and he can't get excited about it, because he's normally posting poll news almost before it's reported, but Labour cut the Tories lead by 7 points.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-lead-labour-cut-seven-points-general-election-poll-latest-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-a7704796.html

 

Granted it's a bit like Sunderland winning a game and thinking they're catching Chelsea, but it's still a bit of a swing to Labour.

 

I'm not sure on your Brexit stance, but you left out the most interesting and significant poll..

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/majority-british-voters-brexit-wrong-decision-yougov-poll-finds-a7704566.html

 

A majority of British voters believe Brexit was the wrong decision, according to a new poll taken 10 days after Theresa May called a snap election. 

The YouGov/Times survey found 43 per cent of voters believe Britain was right to vote to leave the EU. 

However, 45 per cent of the 1,590 surveyed said they thought it was the wrong decision. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

I'm assuming @MattP is busy or he's just not bothered because it's a poll that doesn't back his stance and he can't get excited about it, because he's normally posting poll news almost before it's reported, but Labour cut the Tories lead by 7 points.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-lead-labour-cut-seven-points-general-election-poll-latest-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-a7704796.html

 

Granted it's a bit like Sunderland winning a game and thinking they're catching Chelsea, but it's still a bit of a swing to Labour.

You can't post poll news before its reported. 

 

Was busy, although this is just one poll so it would be a bit silly to get too carried away.

 

Three more out on Sunday and that should give us a better idea of where we are. The Labour vote can't really go down any further as if you are still voting for Corbyn in April 2017 I doubt there is anything he can do to lose your vote.

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4 minutes ago, MattP said:

You can't post poll news before its reported. 

 

Was busy, although this is just one poll so it would be a bit silly to get too carried away.

 

Three more out on Sunday and that should give us a better idea of where we are. The Labour vote can't really go down any further as if you are still voting for Corbyn in April 2017 I doubt there is anything he can do to lose your vote.

I'm just taking the piss a bit mate, as it just seems any poll showing good news for the Tories gets posted up here very quickly, whereas I saw this one yesterday evening and as I know you're a poll junkie was expecting to see it on here, but woke up this morning and there was still no sign of it. 

 

And of course I know you can't post poll news before it reported, why would you feel the need to clarify that? lol 

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8 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

I'm just taking the piss a bit mate, as it just seems any poll showing good news for the Tories gets posted up here very quickly, whereas I saw this one yesterday evening and as I know you're a poll junkie was expecting to see it on here, but woke up this morning and there was still no sign of it. 

 

And of course I know you can't post poll news before it reported, why would you feel the need to clarify that? lol 

Fair enough, if you check my profile you'll see player ratings aside I didn't post.

 

I promise I'll be on with whatever the polls on Sunday morning! lol

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