Guest Posted 23 November 2017 Posted 23 November 2017 6 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Interesting that he's allowed to be a leader 'growing into it' but May isn't He got ripped to shreds for 2 years. He finally find his voice in the election campaign. Half the country now give him a fair crack. May is awful and is being ripped to shreds. If she improves good for her but, unlike Corbyn, she didn't step up her game in the election campaign.
Izzy Posted 23 November 2017 Posted 23 November 2017 1 minute ago, toddybad said: He got ripped to shreds for 2 years. He finally find his voice in the election campaign. Half the country now give him a fair crack. May is awful and is being ripped to shreds. If she improves good for her but, unlike Corbyn, she didn't step up her game in the election campaign. Yet she still won...(and has since acknowledged it was shit campaign) She might be 'awful' in most peoples eyes but she still bosses Corbyn at PMQ's most weeks imo. Good on him for finding his voice in the election campaign. But I still wouldn't trust him to run my bath.. 3
Dr The Singh Posted 23 November 2017 Posted 23 November 2017 Seeing Dianne Abbott on question time has put me off having a wank
Guest Posted 23 November 2017 Posted 23 November 2017 1 minute ago, Dr The Singh said: Seeing Dianne Abbott on question time has put me off having a wank It worked for Jezza....
Strokes Posted 23 November 2017 Posted 23 November 2017 3 minutes ago, toddybad said: It worked for Jezza.... Do we need any further evidence to question a mans judgment? 1
Guest Posted 23 November 2017 Posted 23 November 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Yet she still won...(and has since acknowledged it was shit campaign) She might be 'awful' in most peoples eyes but she still bosses Corbyn at PMQ's most weeks imo. Good on him for finding his voice in the election campaign. But I still wouldn't trust him to run my bath.. She really doesn't. Who wins PMQs depends on who you want to win PMQs. Both sides media claim victory every week. Some weeks he's really quite weak at it and doesn't push any points. Other weeks he takes he to task and all she can give is sound bites with nothing behind them. This week I thought he made the better points. She ended up just having to give it some b.s. about her believing in Britain in lieu of having an actual answer. That does play to a certain audience though. The new Tory strategy of all shouting Corbyn down 10 seconds into his last question to try to ruin his most photogenic moment for the newsreels is everything that's wrong with politics. Edited 23 November 2017 by Guest
Guest Posted 23 November 2017 Posted 23 November 2017 Just now, Strokes said: Do we need any further evidence to question a mans judgment? Maybe her ass tastes of mint humbugs? It's the best theory I can muster.
Guest Posted 23 November 2017 Posted 23 November 2017 5 minutes ago, Strokes said: Do we need any further evidence to question a mans judgment? Going further.... She actually looks kinda cool here Whereas if you looked like him then you'd have to admit to punching
Rogstanley Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 8 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Yet she still won...(and has since acknowledged it was shit campaign) She might be 'awful' in most peoples eyes but she still bosses Corbyn at PMQ's most weeks imo. Good on him for finding his voice in the election campaign. But I still wouldn't trust him to run my bath.. I never get to see PMQ’s because I’m at work trying to help make Britain great again. Maybe that’s why the working age population voted Corbyn? Only the oldies and the shirkers who sit around all day watching telly voted for the wheat runner? 1
Strokes Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 53 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: I never get to see PMQ’s because I’m at work trying to help make Britain great again. Maybe that’s why the working age population voted Corbyn? Only the oldies and the shirkers who sit around all day watching telly voted for the wheat runner? Yeah because watching live is the only possible method, I know you are voting for a party from the 1970s but technology has moved on. 2
Izzy Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rogstanley said: I never get to see PMQ’s because I’m at work trying to help make Britain great again. Maybe that’s why the working age population voted Corbyn? Only the oldies and the shirkers who sit around all day watching telly voted for the wheat runner? I wouldn’t know. I mainly LISTEN to PMQ’s when in the car driving to my next client where I help them to continue making Britain great Edited 24 November 2017 by Izzy Muzzett
Buce Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 43 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: I wouldn’t know. I mainly LISTEN to PMQ’s when in the car driving to my next client where I help them to continue making Britain great I'm glad someone's owning up...
Guest Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 1 hour ago, Izzy Muzzett said: I wouldn’t know. I mainly LISTEN to PMQ’s when in the car driving to my next client where I help them to continue making Britain great Through falling growth and falling wages. Great.
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 Better slow consistent growth, RISING* Wages and high employment than (factually incorrect, a myth pedalled by the Left/Guardian, nothing is falling the TRUTH is they are not growing a much as inflation and living costs for some) More Debt, More Tax and less jobs and debt binge fuelled BOOM AND BUST! Great the Labour way!
Guest Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Foxin_mad said: Better slow consistent growth, RISING* Wages and high employment than (factually incorrect, a myth pedalled by the Left/Guardian, nothing is falling the TRUTH is they are not growing a much as inflation and living costs for some) More Debt, More Tax and less jobs and debt binge fuelled BOOM AND BUST! Great the Labour way! Fox, national debt does not cause busts. Private debt does that - hence it being a credit crunch in 2008. Because money is not being invested by government the economy is reliant on the growth of personal debt to grow at this moment. Hence we have record personal debt at a time of low interest rates and ongoing qe. Another credit crunch is coming and we don't even have any levers left to deal with it. This is entirely the fault of this government's policies. Edited 24 November 2017 by Guest
katieakita Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 14 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: The last thing I want is for my kids to be educated about politics at school by leftie teachers thanks very much So they are teaching left wing policies at the Public schools your kids go to
Rogstanley Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 33 minutes ago, Foxin_mad said: Better slow consistent growth, RISING* Wages and high employment than (factually incorrect, a myth pedalled by the Left/Guardian, nothing is falling the TRUTH is they are not growing a much as inflation and living costs for some) More Debt, More Tax and less jobs and debt binge fuelled BOOM AND BUST! Great the Labour way! Describing wages in real terms isn't a 'myth', it is clearly the most logical way to describe it and is accepted by pretty much everyone of any political persuasion. It's only you making this ridiculous argument. As for more borrowing, hasn't it been demonstrated that Tory governments have taken on more debt overall than labour? Do you just not care about the truth at all? Why are so willing to deprive yourself of the facts? It's weird. 1
Strokes Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 8 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: Describing wages in real terms isn't a 'myth', it is clearly the most logical way to describe it and is accepted by pretty much everyone of any political persuasion. It's only you making this ridiculous argument. As for more borrowing, hasn't it been demonstrated that Tory governments have taken on more debt overall than labour? Labour increased the National debt in real terms including inflation 125% during its 13 years in power. The conservatives have increased it by 51%.
Guest Kopfkino Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 41 minutes ago, toddybad said: Fox, national debt does not cause busts. Private debt does that - hence it being a credit crunch in 2008. Because money is not being invested by government the economy is reliant on the growth of personal debt to grow at this moment. Hence we have record personal debt at a time of low interest rates and ongoing qe. Another credit crunch is coming and we don't even have any levers left to deal with it. This is entirely the fault of this government's policies. You're effectively saying government's didn't borrow enough money in the 2000s, which is a new one that I haven't heard before. And interestingly that means, Strokes will probs like this one, Labour was part of the reason for the crisis
Guest Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Kopfkino said: You're effectively saying government's didn't borrow enough money in the 2000s, which is a new one that I haven't heard before. And interestingly that means, Strokes will probs like this one, Labour was part of the reason for the crisis No I'm talking about the current situation. The increase in private debt now is a direct consequence of austerity. Clearly government expenditure was much higher under the labour government. As we have been told many, many times, it was a fault of banks to recognise the risks of lending that was a huge contributor. That said, it is true that personal debt was ridiculously high. At that time it wasn't required for growth due to government policy but where perhaps the government was lax was in also not recognising the risks associated with high personal debt. Presumably this may have been over confidence given how well the economy performed under that government. I know you're too intelligent to argue that any government could have stopped the global crisis affecting the uk. Edited 24 November 2017 by Guest
Guest Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 The Financial Times has spotted that UK households withdrew money from their tax-free savings accounts at the fastest rate on record in October. It’s another sign that people are feeling the pinch, as falling real wages continue to bite. The FT’s Nicholas Megaw explains: New data from UK Finance suggest households have been saving less and borrowing more in an effort to maintain spending habits in the face of rising prices and falling real wages. The total amount held in cash ISA accounts fell by £1.5bn, the sixth straight month of declines and the biggest monthly withdrawal on record in data going back to 2006.
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, toddybad said: Fox, national debt does not cause busts. Private debt does that - hence it being a credit crunch in 2008. Because money is not being invested by government the economy is reliant on the growth of personal debt to grow at this moment. Hence we have record personal debt at a time of low interest rates and ongoing qe. Another credit crunch is coming and we don't even have any levers left to deal with it. This is entirely the fault of this government's policies. Of course National Debt causes busts, all debt causes busts! If you are spending money you don't have at some point that Money supply is going to stop whether you are a individual or a government, there will come a point that as a nation no one else will lend us anymore. If you show no fiscal responsibility which Labour don't/aren't the money supply will dry up quickly. Unless of course you support the actions of some third world south American socialist countries where they just hit print for a few billion more notes. You have absolutely no idea whether another credit crunch is coming. 51 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: Describing wages in real terms isn't a 'myth', it is clearly the most logical way to describe it and is accepted by pretty much everyone of any political persuasion. It's only you making this ridiculous argument. As for more borrowing, hasn't it been demonstrated that Tory governments have taken on more debt overall than labour? Do you just not care about the truth at all? Why are so willing to deprive yourself of the facts? It's weird. No one ever put in 'real terms' in the left and Guardian world where they like a bit of hyperbole and sensationalism about the nasty rich men, they say wages are falling they are not falling. The cost of living is rising its misleading to say otherwise. If we keep on the correct path, wages will rise especially when we stop importing cheap foreign Labour from eastern block countries. Tory governments take on more debt because they generally take on a crap economic situation left by Labour and have to sort it out. If you are left with a £150 billion deficit, of course debt is going to increase while you bring it down, and get control. Control could have been got more quickly by cutting more and more quickly but of course the left would have whined a bit more then. The other option is the gambler option where we just keep spending more and more and hope that one day the debt goes away, of course this is the left way. What are you on about. You are the deniers of the truth If we had a Labour government for the past years we would ALL be a lot worse off now, we would all be jobless and poorer. Edited 24 November 2017 by Foxin_mad
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 24 minutes ago, toddybad said: No I'm talking about the current situation. The increase in private debt now is a direct consequence of austerity. No its not. Its a direct consequence of people spending money they don't have. Do they need an MPV, do they need a iPhone do they need to grab that Starbucks or Costa every morning.......answer no.
Guest Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 2 minutes ago, Foxin_mad said: Of course National Debt causes busts, all debt causes busts! If you are spending money you don't have at some point that Money supply is going to stop whether you are a individual or a government, there will come a point that as a nation no one else will lend us anymore. If you show no fiscal responsibility which Labour don't/aren't the money supply will dry up quickly. Unless of course you support the actions of some third world south American socialist countries where they just hit print for a few billion more notes. You have absolutely no idea whether another credit crunch is coming. No one ever put in 'real terms' in the left and Guardian world where they like a bit of hyperbole and sensationalism about the nasty rich men, they say wages are falling they are not falling. The cost of living is rising its misleading to say otherwise. If we keep on the correct path, wages will rise especially when we stop importing cheap foreign Labour from. Tory governments take on more debt because they generally take on a crap economic situation left by Labour and have to sort it out. If you are left with a £150 billion deficit, of course debt is going to increase while you bring it down, and get control. Control could have been got more quickly by cutting more and more quickly but of course the left would have whined a bit more then. The other option is the gambler option where we just keep spending more and more and hope that one day the debt goes away, of course this is the left way. What are you on about. You are the deniers of the truth If we had a Labour government for the past years we would ALL be a lot worse off now, we would all be jobless and poorer. This post is almost 100% untrue made up bollocks. Do you have some sort of brain injury?
Guest Posted 24 November 2017 Posted 24 November 2017 1 minute ago, Foxin_mad said: No its not. Its a direct consequence of people spending money they don't have. Do they need an MPV, do they need a iPhone do they need to grab that Starbucks or Costa every morning.......answer no. ....do they need to pay increasing bills in an environment where everyday costs are increasing and wages are falling against inflation...answer, yes
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