Merging Cultures Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 4 hours ago, The Floyd said: Aside from your attempts to justify not reporting suspicious behaviour, I don't see your point. I partially quoted JTH's post about the vast majority of muslims being equally as opposed and horrified, which I don't think is the case. It's a poll so of course they can only make suggestions as to whether that sample is reflective of the entire muslim population, but the definition of 'sympathiser' in the context of terrorism really doesn't deviate all that much. Even if you were to disregard the entire article by The Express, what are your thoughts on the Telegraph's piece? NB: A majority isn't the same as a vast majority. I covered the Telegraph with 25%<51% "A quarter of Muslims sympathise with Charlie Hebdo attackers"... a quarter, 25%.... I was being generous with just going with 51% to not try and embarrass you that 51% is a simple majority and therefore the JTH was clearly correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Floyd Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 1 minute ago, Merging Cultures said: I covered the Telegraph with 25%<51% "A quarter of Muslims sympathise with Charlie Hebdo attackers"... a quarter, 25%.... I was being generous with just going with 51% to not try and embarrass you that 51% is a simple majority and therefore the JTH was clearly correct. A 'vast' majority is not 51%. You're not embarrassing anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 Just now, The Floyd said: A 'vast' majority is not 51%. You're not embarrassing anyone. Exactly. What's your point? You quoted an article that 25% of Muslims sympathised with terrorists in response to someone saying the vast majority do not. 25% is less than a simple majority, let alone the vast majority that JTH mentioned. Did you want me to say 25%<75%?! I thought the maths might be too difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 1 hour ago, leicsmac said: Because the FT admin squad are clearly PC do-gooders that can't handle the REAL TRUTH about the world in general and Islam in particular. Isn't it obvious? Thought that would be the case. Never understood what people's issue was with "do-gooders" by the way. Cvnts are the real problem in this world. Mind you, I did see it suggested on social media yesterday that the BBC should be shut down because a Moroccan rented a van in Spain, so maybe I'm well out of touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 10 minutes ago, Voll Blau said: Mind you, I did see it suggested on social media yesterday that the BBC should be shut down because a Moroccan rented a van in Spain. Also feminists... something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Floyd Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 17 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said: Exactly. What's your point? You quoted an article that 25% of Muslims sympathised with terrorists in response to someone saying the vast majority do not. 25% is less than a simple majority, let alone the vast majority that JTH mentioned. Did you want me to say 25%<75%?! I thought the maths might be too difficult. The figure is 27%. Would you consider 73% to be a vast majority? I'd argue not. If we take that poll at face value and translate that percentage into an actual figure, that's 729,000 muslims in the UK who sympathised with the Charlie Hebdo terrorists. Of course that figure could be inflated, but to try and pretend there isn't even a minor issue isn't helpful. Apologies if my posts lacked clarity before and apologies for the pedantry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munshi Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 I'm muslim, wtf am I supposed to do about any of this? Disgusted and horrified at all of this as much as anyone. The way some people go on it feels like normal people like me are almost responsible and should do more to stop these attacks. Aside from all that though, the video someone put on twitter was genuinely heart breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 1 minute ago, The Floyd said: The figure is 27%. Would you consider 73% to be a vast majority? I'd argue not. If we take that poll at face value and translate that percentage into an actual figure, that's 729,000 muslims in the UK who sympathised with the Charlie Hebdo terrorists. Of course that figure could be inflated, but to try and pretend there isn't even a minor issue isn't helpful. Apologies if my posts lacked clarity before and apologies for the pedantry. Yes, 73% is a vast majority! Yes, there is a major issue, and it can't be dealt with quick enough, but it isn't the vast majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 23 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Because the FT admin squad are clearly PC do-gooders that can't handle the REAL TRUTH about the world in general and Islam in particular. Isn't it obvious? Just in case it's not obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Floyd Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 1 minute ago, Merging Cultures said: Yes, 73% is a vast majority! Yes, there is a major issue, and it can't be dealt with quick enough, but it isn't the vast majority. I disagree but I guess 'vast' is subjective. Just to be clear, I'm not at all trying to argue that the vast majority of muslims sympathise with terrorists, you seem to be confused or are deliberately manipulating my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 6 hours ago, The Floyd said: I wouldn't be so sure. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11433776/Quarter-of-British-Muslims-sympathise-with-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.html http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/659913/two-in-three-British-Muslims-would-NOT-give-police-terror-tip-offs Wait so JTH writes "so while I agree that clearly the vast majority of Muslims are absolutely opposed and as horrified as I am at this sort of shit going down" Which u highlighted when posting the above... And yet you are not suggesting that the majority of Muslims are terrorist sympathisers?! I need something to drink!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Floyd Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 2 hours ago, Merging Cultures said: Wait so JTH writes "so while I agree that clearly the vast majority of Muslims are absolutely opposed and as horrified as I am at this sort of shit going down" Which u highlighted when posting the above... And yet you are not suggesting that the majority of Muslims are terrorist sympathisers?! I need something to drink!! It's really not that hard. I disagree that the amount of muslims horrified constitute as a 'vast majority'. A majority yes, but vast, no. My reply to JTH was intended as an inoffensive passing comment, food for thought per se. Anyway, this is ridiculous and I must go, I wish you a pleasant weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 It's really not that hard. I disagree that the amount of muslims horrified can constitute as a 'vast majority'. A majority yes, but vast, no. My reply to JTH was intended as an inoffensive passing comment, food for thought per se. Anyway, this is ridiculous and I must go, I wish you a pleasant weekend.And you! Enjoy, stay safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 24 minutes ago, The Floyd said: Anyway, this is ridiculous and I must go, I wish you a pleasant weekend. 22 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said: 24 minutes ago, The Floyd said: IAnyway, this is ridiculous and I must go, I wish you a pleasant weekend. And you! Enjoy, stay safe. Disappointingly pleasant conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 Disappointingly pleasant conclusion.What are you talking about you muppet?(Better?!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 It can't be defeated but we can have a go. Between 2008-2013 there was a lull in jihadi activity compared to the years before it and since. We need to look at why this happened and how we can supress it. Western media glorify ISIS, of that there is no doubt, I think it's time we stopped doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 26 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said: What are you talking about you muppet? (Better?!) that's more like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ousefox Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 6 hours ago, Webbo said: I've read that, because a good chunk of Spain was once run by the Moors, IS consider it as part of the Caliphate. Yep I've always been surprised there haven't been more terror attacks in Spain for that very reason. I regularly visit Andalusia so I'm always concerned there may be an attack on people and the amazing buildings - muslim mosques and minarets were often integrated into newer catholic buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4DD0gg Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 2 hours ago, leicsmac said: Because the FT admin squad are clearly PC do-gooders that can't handle the REAL TRUTH about the world in general and Islam in particular. Isn't it obvious? Duno whether this is meant as sarcasm but yeh this sums it up and this website is chronic for it, still guess they gota protect that ad revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 6 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said: Duno whether this is meant as sarcasm but yeh this sums it up and this website is chronic for it, still guess they gota protect that ad revenue. It was meant to be ironic, yes. Do you think that advertisers will pull their ads from FT if they allow THE TRUTH to be spoken on here, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4DD0gg Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 1 hour ago, leicsmac said: It was meant to be ironic, yes. Do you think that advertisers will pull their ads from FT if they allow THE TRUTH to be spoken on here, then? Yes and it happens constantly on streaming media such as youtube and twitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 2 hours ago, The Floyd said: It's really not that hard. I disagree that the amount of muslims horrified constitute as a 'vast majority'. A majority yes, but vast, no. My reply to JTH was intended as an inoffensive passing comment, food for thought per se. Anyway, this is ridiculous and I must go, I wish you a pleasant weekend. 2 hours ago, Merging Cultures said: 2 hours ago, The Floyd said: It's really not that hard. I disagree that the amount of muslims horrified can constitute as a 'vast majority'. A majority yes, but vast, no. My reply to JTH was intended as an inoffensive passing comment, food for thought per se. Anyway, this is ridiculous and I must go, I wish you a pleasant weekend. And you! Enjoy, stay safe. 2 hours ago, bovril said: Disappointingly pleasant conclusion. Pair of bloody hippies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 1 hour ago, m4DD0gg said: Yes and it happens constantly on streaming media such as youtube and twitch. Fair enough. Of course it might be that they simply think those views are erroneous in fact and therefore might be bad for business...but hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 Have to say credit to the police officer that shot dead 3 suspects in a car in the coastal town where a house got exploded, despite putting his life under serious danger in the process. Rather kill those highly suspected to be involved than arrest them, so that the world has less of the idiots.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 18 August 2017 Share Posted 18 August 2017 37 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: Have to say credit to the police officer that shot dead 3 suspects in a car in the coastal town where a house got exploded, despite putting his life under surreal danger in the process. Rather kill those highly suspected to be involved than arrest them, so that the world has less of the idiots.. What kind of danger is that, Whymsey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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