Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Grebfromgrebland]

1 hour ago, CornwallFox said:

The fact he will resign is irrelevant. 

You're complaining because you don't know in advance what Burnham is offering. you're the one that needs to wait.

Why should the public be subjected to this political theatre?

 

Starmer has done the unthinkable with changing terror laws, compromising the judiciary, and setting the framework of ending legitimate freedom of speech. Not bad for a human rights lawyer.

 

Burnham can now come in and say it was nothing to do with him. 

 

It's almost like this was the plan all along. Labour Friends of Israel have currently got our politicians, media, police, judges, GMC completely by the balls and no one seems to bat an eyelid.

 

 

[Muzzy_no7]

Starmer to Burnham…like sacking Pooper and turning to Ruud.

 

Find it astonishing that some think he has done an OKish job.

[CornwallFox]

2 hours ago, Blueman1967 said:

I think a PM resigning would be relevent, what has Burnham got, that has alot of MPs siding with him, this has been built up for a while.

This is a fairer question.

 

He's done a really good job as mayor of Manchester and apparently he's very, very popular in the north as a result. 

 

Some of that is through more left wing ideas (ie traditional labour) than we've seen from starmar and co - for example really successfully bringing buses under council control.

 

In his bi-election campaign he has talked a lot about needing to get cost of living under control, citing a 23% increase in water bills at a time when water companies are failing. He's talking about renationalising infrastructure like water, rail etc.

 

You will see the right wing rags attack him mercilessly for that because the money behind them quite likes making lots of money from public services without doing anything to maintain or improve them. 

[CornwallFox]

19 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Starmer to Burnham…like sacking Pooper and turning to Ruud.

 

Find it astonishing that some think he has done an OKish job.

Fastest growth in the G7. 

NHS waiting times rapidly improving. 

Immigration hugely down, while emigration is also down, and small boats also massively down, for those that care about the that kind of thing. 

The only one of him, badenoch and Farage to not want to join the Americans in Iran. We'd have been at war under Tory or reform rule. 

Across lots of other areas they're making decent progress based on evidence and expertise. It isn't, however, getting communicated to the public which is a huge failure. 

 

On the other side, employment/unemployment figures aren't great. Small business is having a hard time and they haven't imo done enough to alleviate that (Burnham is talking about taking pubs, high street businesses out of business rates altogether by expecting a bit more from big business). 

 

There's pros and cons like any government but what I would say after 14 years of the Tories, is that there's been a lot of noise about the handful of things that aren't so good, whereas with the Tories literally everything was a dumpster fire.

 

Given starmar can't in to an utterly broken country, with the public as divided as we ever have been, trump and his tariffs followed by trump and Iran, he's had a crappy hand and done pretty well. Unfortunately his negatives are the only thing getting any air time

[Sly]

8 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

Fastest growth in the G7. 

NHS waiting times rapidly improving. 

Immigration hugely down, while emigration is also down, and small boats also massively down, for those that care about the that kind of thing. 

The only one of him, badenoch and Farage to not want to join the Americans in Iran. We'd have been at war under Tory or reform rule. 

Across lots of other areas they're making decent progress based on evidence and expertise. It isn't, however, getting communicated to the public which is a huge failure. 

 

On the other side, employment/unemployment figures aren't great. Small business is having a hard time and they haven't imo done enough to alleviate that (Burnham is talking about taking pubs, high street businesses out of business rates altogether by expecting a bit more from big business). 

 

There's pros and cons like any government but what I would say after 14 years of the Tories, is that there's been a lot of noise about the handful of things that aren't so good, whereas with the Tories literally everything was a dumpster fire.

 

Given starmar can't in to an utterly broken country, with the public as divided as we ever have been, trump and his tariffs followed by trump and Iran, he's had a crappy hand and done pretty well. Unfortunately his negatives are the only thing getting any air time

I don’t think everything under any government is a dumpster fire.

 

As a country, they haven’t lead us down a path of self destruction or all out civil unrest and war. 
 

It is more a case of pick your poison as most do things that are good or bad. The media like to pick up on anything negative and highlight that, as bad news sells and good news is swept under the carpet.

 

I’d say Starmer has done a decent job on restoring stability to the government, rebuilding relationships with international allies and generally adding a bit of stability. This was needed and at the time. He’s very boring but I prefer boring over whatever Boris was. 
 

Soundbite Burnham though will take this government in a totally different direction. A total different direction, that the public didn’t vote for in terms of policies. He feels a bit like Brendan Rodgers in he’ll self promotes, that’s half the reason half the UK knows who he is. 

 

My original gripe was that this should trigger a general election. I still believe that now. It should have happened under the Conservative government as well, as we went from one disaster class to another, until Sunak restored some stability in what was a sinking ship. 

Edited 22 June by Sly

[CrazyKopCorner]

6 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

Fastest growth in the G7. 

NHS waiting times rapidly improving. 

Immigration hugely down, while emigration is also down, and small boats also massively down, for those that care about the that kind of thing. 

The only one of him, badenoch and Farage to not want to join the Americans in Iran. We'd have been at war under Tory or reform rule. 

Across lots of other areas they're making decent progress based on evidence and expertise. It isn't, however, getting communicated to the public which is a huge failure. 

 

On the other side, employment/unemployment figures aren't great. Small business is having a hard time and they haven't imo done enough to alleviate that (Burnham is talking about taking pubs, high street businesses out of business rates altogether by expecting a bit more from big business). 

 

There's pros and cons like any government but what I would say after 14 years of the Tories, is that there's been a lot of noise about the handful of things that aren't so good, whereas with the Tories literally everything was a dumpster fire.

 

Given starmar can't in to an utterly broken country, with the public as divided as we ever have been, trump and his tariffs followed by trump and Iran, he's had a crappy hand and done pretty well. Unfortunately his negatives are the only thing getting any air time

Blimey are you Peter Kyle by any chance. 

 

 

[Sly]

The old European Cup, was easier to win than the modern Champions League.

[Jimothy]

25 minutes ago, Sly said:

The old European Cup, was easier to win than the modern Champions League.

I don't think that's unpopular, I think it's a widely held view. 

Edited 22 June by Jimothy

[Kisnorbo fox]

14 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

Fastest growth in the G7. 

NHS waiting times rapidly improving. 

Immigration hugely down, while emigration is also down, and small boats also massively down, for those that care about the that kind of thing. 

The only one of him, badenoch and Farage to not want to join the Americans in Iran. We'd have been at war under Tory or reform rule. 

Across lots of other areas they're making decent progress based on evidence and expertise. It isn't, however, getting communicated to the public which is a huge failure. 

 

On the other side, employment/unemployment figures aren't great. Small business is having a hard time and they haven't imo done enough to alleviate that (Burnham is talking about taking pubs, high street businesses out of business rates altogether by expecting a bit more from big business). 

 

There's pros and cons like any government but what I would say after 14 years of the Tories, is that there's been a lot of noise about the handful of things that aren't so good, whereas with the Tories literally everything was a dumpster fire.

 

Given starmar can't in to an utterly broken country, with the public as divided as we ever have been, trump and his tariffs followed by trump and Iran, he's had a crappy hand and done pretty well. Unfortunately his negatives are the only thing getting any air time

Is that you kier ? ….. 

[Muzzy_no7]

Help to Buy should’ve been called Help to Sell.

[Trav Le Bleu]

We should nuke the north and south poles to release much needed water.

[Innovindil]

6 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

We should nuke the north and south poles to release much needed water.

Someone run the math. How much ice do we need to lower the ocean temp?

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

We should nuke the north and south poles to release much needed water.

Not sure how potable irradiated water will be, but let's have at it. 

 

1 minute ago, Innovindil said:

Someone run the math. How much ice do we need to lower the ocean temp?

Considering that 2.5% of all water in Earth is fresh water (including all the ice at the poles) and 97.5% is salt water, possibly more than we have. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 minute ago, Innovindil said:

Someone run the math. How much ice do we need to lower the ocean temp?

This is a great YouTube channel for that kind of question...

 

 

 

[CornwallFox]

On 21/06/2026 at 22:18, Grebfromgrebland said:

Why should the public be subjected to this political theatre?

 

Starmer has done the unthinkable with changing terror laws, compromising the judiciary, and setting the framework of ending legitimate freedom of speech. Not bad for a human rights lawyer.

 

Burnham can now come in and say it was nothing to do with him. 

 

It's almost like this was the plan all along. Labour Friends of Israel have currently got our politicians, media, police, judges, GMC completely by the balls and no one seems to bat an eyelid.

 

 

Which terror laws has he changed unthinkably? 

In what way had he set the framework for an end to freedom of speech?

I see no evidence of either so I'd be interested to know what you are thinking of when you write these things. 

Edited 23 June by CornwallFox

[urban.spaceman]

On 21/06/2026 at 22:24, Muzzy_no7 said:

Starmer to Burnham…like sacking Pooper and turning to Ruud.

 

Find it astonishing that some think he has done an OKish job.

Immigration down 80%. 

Small boats down 40%.

Better deal with the EU. 

Best trade agreement with the US.

Stabilised the economy and turned it into the fastest growing in the G7.

£700bn inward investment on infrastructure.

NHS waiting list down with an extra half a million appointments made available. 

Saving millions of families thousands on childcare, expanded free school meals to another half a million kids and increased breakfast clubs.

Reversed the ban on onshore win, accelerated renewable energy projects and improving UK energy security. 

Biggest upgrade to workers rights in a generation.

Biggest upgrade to renters rights in a generation.

HMRC increasing tax income after finally collecting taxes they should have been collecting.

Closed loopholes used by our biggest tax avoiders by making them pay inheritance tax. 

Knife crime down 10%.

Biggest sustained increase in defence spending since the Cold War. 

 

He also found the one and only benefit of Brexit which was to put VAT on private school fees, which for some reason made Brexiters even more angry. 

 

The disrespect and hate he gets is genuinely baffling. He's easily been better than Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak, Major and Thatcher put together. 

Edited 23 June by urban.spaceman

[AKCJ]

On 15/06/2026 at 16:43, bovril said:

Americans are obsessed with adding "seasoning" and sauce because they don't realize raw ingredients can have their own instrinsic flavour. 

What do you mean everything shouldn't taste of onion powder, garlic powder and chilli power???

 

[Muzzy_no7]

27 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Immigration down 80%. 

Small boats down 40%.

Better deal with the EU. 

Best trade agreement with the US.

Stabilised the economy and turned it into the fastest growing in the G7.

£700bn inward investment on infrastructure.

NHS waiting list down with an extra half a million appointments made available. 

Saving millions of families thousands on childcare, expanded free school meals to another half a million kids and increased breakfast clubs.

Reversed the ban on onshore win, accelerated renewable energy projects and improving UK energy security. 

Biggest upgrade to workers rights in a generation.

Biggest upgrade to renters rights in a generation.

HMRC increasing tax income after finally collecting taxes they should have been collecting.

Knife crime down 10%.

Biggest sustained increase in defence spending since the Cold War. 

 

He also found the one and only benefit of Brexit which was to put VAT on private school fees, which for some reason made Brexiters even more angry. 

 

The disrespect and hate he gets is genuinely baffling. He's easily been better than Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak, Major and Thatcher put together. 

Unreal.

 

Now type the following into ChatGPT:

 

List why Starmer has been a poor PM. 
 

Im not going to engage in tit for tat with the left on here. Like I’ve already said..you heard of the saying about Bee’s, Flies, Honey and Crap? 
 

Have a good evening and enjoy the game. 

[Finnegan]

4 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Unreal.

 

Now type the following into ChatGPT:

 

List why Starmer has been a poor PM. 
 

Im not going to engage in tit for tat with the left on here. Like I’ve already said..you heard of the saying about Bee’s, Flies, Honey and Crap? 
 

Have a good evening and enjoy the game. 

 

Translation:

 

"I didn't actually know any of that, I barely understand any of that, I'm intimidated by the idea you actually might know something about this subject, I was hoping to pass myself off as looking sort of knowledgeable.

 

I like to think I'm kinda clued in unlike those woke sheep. You were on the verge of actually giving my self esteem a wobble there but luckily my defence mechanisms are kicking in now so I'm going to make an ad hominem dig at you pretending you can't think for yourself (which is purely projection btw), make a joke of vaguely the calibre of calling Cooper "Pooper" and then dip out and pretend I've owned the libs."

 

Looking forward to my notification in a minute that Muzzy_no7 has reacted to this post so I know he's down with the banter and he's not upset. 

 

[urban.spaceman]

10 years ago Brexiters wanted to leave the EU to lower immigration and improve the economy. It did the opposite of those things, increasing immigration by 400% and creating the small boats crisis.

 

Labour gets both regular immigration and the small boats crisis under control, and the economy growing faster than any other in the G7 despite the economy being 8% worse off because of Brexit, and they're still ****ing angry about it. 

 

Right wing politics has been a catastrophic ****ing disaster. 

[urban.spaceman]

[Tommy G]

1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

Immigration down 80%. 

Small boats down 40%.

Better deal with the EU. 

Best trade agreement with the US.

Stabilised the economy and turned it into the fastest growing in the G7.

£700bn inward investment on infrastructure.

NHS waiting list down with an extra half a million appointments made available. 

Saving millions of families thousands on childcare, expanded free school meals to another half a million kids and increased breakfast clubs.

Reversed the ban on onshore win, accelerated renewable energy projects and improving UK energy security. 

Biggest upgrade to workers rights in a generation.

Biggest upgrade to renters rights in a generation.

HMRC increasing tax income after finally collecting taxes they should have been collecting.

Closed loopholes used by our biggest tax avoiders by making them pay inheritance tax. 

Knife crime down 10%.

Biggest sustained increase in defence spending since the Cold War. 

 

He also found the one and only benefit of Brexit which was to put VAT on private school fees, which for some reason made Brexiters even more angry. 

 

The disrespect and hate he gets is genuinely baffling. He's easily been better than Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak, Major and Thatcher put together. 

With all those subjective achievements I'm astonished he's walked!

[Innovindil]

3 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

With all those subjective achievements I'm astonished he's walked!

Still time for a u-turn and classic "I ain't fing leaving!" tbf. 

[urban.spaceman]

1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

With all those subjective achievements I'm astonished he's walked!

Unfortunately we have an electorate who are so stupid, they voted 10 years ago today to put economic sanctions on itself, caused uncontrolled mass immigration and created a small boats crisis; and when they finally have a Prime Minister who is provably solving those problems, they don't even ****ing want it. 

 

It's almost as our media and social media is controlled by tax avoiding traitors delivering relentless lies and distortions to a captive and easily manipulated populace. 

[urban.spaceman]

3 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Still time for a u-turn and classic "I ain't fing leaving!" tbf. 

That would easily get into his top 5 U turns. G'won Kier, do it.