the fox Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 Just now, Foxxed said: A comedy of errors dashed with incompetence and nativity, innit. the saddest thing is, i thought the management won't repeat last season's errors, i was actually excited for the season
foxfanazer Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 But the players are clearly not good enough, like everyone agrees. Can only do so much! He is out of his depth unfortunately but you’re a fool if you think the main problem lies with Shakespeare. Club needs a big overhaul of staff that have become too comfortable in their jobs
Lestoh1 Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 3 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: I was always respectful of Claudio so don’t know what point you’re trying to make Its a fairly simple point. Excusing a crap manager.
Foxxed Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 57 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: What can the manager do about it? Keeping Mendy may have helped, Lawrence too and in the games where we were heavily missing a creative midfielder a ten minute cameo from Barnes would have been welcome. He ain't completely to blame, especially with Silva, but he ain't blameless and when the results aren't going his way these things add up. The sign of an inexperienced manager, obviously.
foxfanazer Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 Just now, Lestoh1 said: Its a fairly simple point. Excusing a crap manager. OK I have no interest talking to you, you seem a bit of an idiot.
Fox92 Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 35 minutes ago, Babylon said: We've been more positive than Burnley have been against the big teams. I don't think it comes down to negativity at all, we just aren't set up very well. Our shape is wide open, we try and stretch play by keeping two up front and two men wide. But everyone is so far apart you need a perfect 34 yard pass to reach the nearest option and in defence it leaves holes the other team can pass through. If anything we need to be tighter and closer together to provide options and give the easy pass, whilst restricting the space. He sets up negatively. I think the forwards are too far apart - that's why Vardy is constantly telling the midfield to push up.
Lestoh1 Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 Just now, foxfanazer said: OK I have no interest talking to you, you seem a bit of an idiot. See ya.
the fox Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 33 minutes ago, Babylon said: We've been more positive than Burnley have been against the big teams. I don't think it comes down to negativity at all, we just aren't set up very well. Our shape is wide open, we try and stretch play by keeping two up front and two men wide. But everyone is so far apart you need a perfect 34 yard pass to reach the nearest option and in defence it leaves holes the other team can pass through. If anything we need to be tighter and closer together to provide options and give the easy pass, whilst restricting the space. i hate to beat a dead horse but, you can track that all back to the lack of dynamic fullbacks to give us numbers up top(fuchs is a little better than simmo there) i hear a lot of talk about "we play as a unit" but the team is so disjointed it's actually laughable
dayday Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 The players we bought simply don't fit the system, we won't change it because we can't. So it's firmly down to recruitment.
the fox Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 4 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: But the players are clearly not good enough, like everyone agrees. Can only do so much! He is out of his depth unfortunately but you’re a fool if you think the main problem lies with Shakespeare. Club needs a big overhaul of staff that have become too comfortable in their jobs i actaully think we have a very good squad with players all over the pitch (apart from a box to box, which tachnicaly we have, and an overlapping RB) i said it before, with the right management, a 7th-8th place isn't far off
foxfanazer Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 Just now, dayday said: The players we bought simply don't fit the system, we won't change it because we can't. So it's firmly down to recruitment. Bingo
foxfanazer Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 Just now, the fox said: i actaully think we have a very good squad with players all over the pitch (apart from a box to box, which tachnicaly we have, and an overlapping RB) i said it before, with the right management, a 7th-8th place isn't far off I disagree, so many players not comfortable with the ball at their feet. Just hoof it up to Vardy and hope he makes something of it
Lestoh1 Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 1 minute ago, foxfanazer said: Bingo Which the manager is a part of
Guest Danny Clender Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 Right now, at this very point in time, hyper-pathetically, if we were to sign Phil Coutinho, he would start either on the left or right wing in a 4-4-2 formation. I hope that analogy is clear enough to highlight my frustration, possibly not, sorry.
foxfanazer Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 2 minutes ago, Lestoh1 said: Which the manager is a part of You still here?
Fox92 Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 2 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: I disagree, so many players not comfortable with the ball at their feet. Just hoof it up to Vardy and hope he makes something of it Which is down to the manager.
foxfanazer Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 1 minute ago, Fox92 said: Which is down to the manager. Possibly, although it was the same under Ranieri last season Already stated that I think he should go. My point was he can only work with what’s there and that ain’t a lot.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 Bloody hell why has no one mentioned this before!
murphy Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 1 hour ago, David Hankey said: Midfield. Under-sold Kante, off-loaded Drinkwater, balls-up Siva transfer and not replaced with the same stature. Armartey, Ndidi and Matty James are not the same calibre so why can't the manager and owners see it? Where to start. Firstly we did well to get what we did for Kante with his buy out clause which is the only way we could attract him in the first place. Drinkwater's sale was good business for the club. £35m is daylight robbery for a player that has been poor for ages and is always injures/carrying a niggle and looks to me like he has a permanent strop on at the best of times. Keeping him here against his will would not be in our interests. Ndidi is a good player, will be very good and helped rescue our season last year. Silva - yes. Massive balls up, but a good addition when we get him.
Lestoh1 Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 4 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: You still here? Ill leave you to defend the indefensible
foxfanazer Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 Just now, Lestoh1 said: Ill leave you to defend the indefensible Do you have difficulty reading? or do you just like arguing with yourself?
fazzyfox Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 There is no adequate replacement for Kante out there, his case is pretty exceptional. We attracted and afforded to buy a player who in less than a year proved to be truly outstanding. A stupid clause meant the fee we received did not reflect his ability. If there's a proven quality replacement out there we would not be able to attract them now without Champions League Football, possibly not afford their wages and struggle to afford their fee. That leaves unproven talent at the stage Kante was, taking a punt, using your network etc. We've done that and found Ndidi and at times he's very very good, we do forget his age and that this season he is missing a consistently selected partner to build a relationship with, almost having to be the key player in terms of presence and expectation of the pair. Drinky was here until deadline day, a fully fit Drinky alongside Ndidi is not something we ever really had but I feel it would have been Perfectly adequate for a 6th-8th finish. He's gone and the mess up with his replacement is unforgivable. Wasting time and money on Mendy and Amartey, arguabley gambling that James can stay fit and not having Iborra ready to go yet are all questionable elements but if there's a ready made replacement for Kante out there I 'd love to know who he is because he'd become the joint most effective player in the premier League. The way we set up with two strikers and two wingers means the central midfielders rarely get forward, it will be interesting to see if Silva can get as far as the opposition box and gets shots in without leaving us too vulnerable.
Lestoh1 Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 2 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: Do you have difficulty reading? or do you just like arguing with yourself? Bye
foxfanazer Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 1 minute ago, Lestoh1 said: Bye Do you promise this time!
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 October 2017 Posted 15 October 2017 25 minutes ago, the fox said: i actaully think we have a very good squad with players all over the pitch (apart from a box to box, which tachnicaly we have, and an overlapping RB) i said it before, with the right management, a 7th-8th place isn't far off I don't think we do have a very good squad anymore. Shakey is definitely not helping but I think we have an ageing squad who have achieved the dream, interspersed with some newcomers who can't do it all themselves. It's a mess.
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