The Living Wage at LCFC

[peach0000]

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that a company should pay their staff a fair wage for the job they do. If someone is working for a the club they should expect to receive enough money in return to be able to live. Its made even worse for me in this case when the same company will happily be paying their top earners 100,000 a week when they won't pay the people at the bottom an extra couple of pounds an hour so they can live a reasonable life.

[Soar Fox]

What’s the issue if they don’t like it leave and find another job that pays better. 

 

If I wasn’t happy with my wage I’d do something about it. Work harder, try & progress, look for another job.

 

To be honest the staff they have in the club shop are paid about £7 more than they should be. 

[Voll Blau]

1 hour ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

What’s the issue if they don’t like it leave and find another job that pays better. 

 

If I wasn’t happy with my wage I’d do something about it. Work harder, try & progress, look for another job.

 

To be honest the staff they have in the club shop are paid about £7 more than they should be. 

You make it sound so easy...

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

What’s the issue if they don’t like it leave and find another job that pays better. 

 

If I wasn’t happy with my wage I’d do something about it. Work harder, try & progress, look for another job.

 

To be honest the staff they have in the club shop are paid about £7 more than they should be. 

maybe everyone isn't as highly skilled as you obviously are.

 

Anyone making an effort to work as opposed to sitting on their arses at home getting payments from tax payers pockets deserve a reasonable wage on which they can live especially given the obscene earnings of the owners who are clearly devout people and who care for the common man.

 

Our society needs to correct this error.

[Bayfox]

I guess if you pay students 7 quid and hour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You end up with a shit ticket office.

[Rogstanley]

6 minutes ago, FIF said:

maybe everyone isn't as highly skilled as you obviously are.

 

Anyone making an effort to work as opposed to sitting on their arses at home getting payments from tax payers pockets deserve a reasonable wage on which they can live especially given the obscene earnings of the owners who are clearly devout people and who care for the common man.

 

Our society needs to correct this error.

Be that as it may, you aren’t going to solve the problem by arbitrarily picking on individual companies.

 

If the minimum wage isn’t enough, then it should be increased. No need to drag LCFC or any other business into it.

[Soar Fox]

1 hour ago, FIF said:

maybe everyone isn't as highly skilled as you obviously are.

 

Anyone making an effort to work as opposed to sitting on their arses at home getting payments from tax payers pockets deserve a reasonable wage on which they can live especially given the obscene earnings of the owners who are clearly devout people and who care for the common man.

 

Our society needs to correct this error.

I wasn’t skilled when I started working, I was a blue collar worker working 3 shifts. I didn’t really enjoy it and couldn’t see myself doing it for the rest of my life. 

 

It was up to me to put the hard work in, going work for 8 hours then studying and doing college courses in the evening.

 

If people aren’t happy with a living wage there are plenty of opportunities in this country to better yourself. 

[somebum]

8 hours ago, Kilworthfox said:

If no laws are broken, what's the issue?

 

If the minimum wage is being paid, why target football clubs?

 

Surely we should all be asking more important questions, like what's happened to the bankers, how have their regulations changed and been tightened, so that the nations tax money was used for good, and there is a good reason why that put everyone's standards of living down.

 

But lets just look at Football?...

Are you serious? Are you suggesting this shouldnt be published because it unfairly targets football clubs?

[z-layrex]

5 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

That explains why the kiosk staff are so shit. It's a protest. 

Probably less a protest and more misery at having to work a shit job.

[simFox]

8 hours ago, Kilworthfox said:

If no laws are broken, what's the issue?

 

If the minimum wage is being paid, why target football clubs?

 

Surely we should all be asking more important questions, like what's happened to the bankers, how have their regulations changed and been tightened, so that the nations tax money was used for good, and there is a good reason why that put everyone's standards of living down.

 

But lets just look at Football?...

Why look at anyone. No one is JUST looking at football. But why not start with football. They happen to value the young millionaires that play for them, but not the guys cleaning the floor. It doesn't feel ethical. This is a business that binds the community, relies on the fans to survive and requires their support. Why not give a little back to those closest to them?

 

Does anyone know if a winning bonus was paid to everyone on the payroll? It might not be evident just looking at the wage.

 

 

[Corky]

Paying the living wage would bring good publicity for the club. They can afford it and I don't see any reason why they can't manage it. Far smaller and less wealthy businesses do.

[one F in Fox]

9 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

It's not being paid according to this. Surely something the club can afford to do?

 

 

Never mind about that, how on earth do Bournemouth turn over £210,000,000!

[Bamba's Babes]

How are Bournemouth turning nearly £100M more than us?

[Redouane]

This is dumb. We have no idea how many employees are getting paid minimum wage. For all we know, it could be 1 kid that holds up a sign. Plus, most of the low level employees are probably contracted, so I don't see how the club should be blamed for that. 

[Guest MarshallForEngland]

My general opinion of companies paying the legal minimum wage is that they are basically saying they would pay less if they could but they're not allowed. I'm not saying that's a bad thing necessarily, it's a company's prerogative to do that and nobody is forced to work there. It all depends on what the company values. If as a company you're not particularly concerned about whether or not your employees give a damn about their job, or if you don't care much about how the image of the company or brand will be affected by a potentially demotivated workforce, or indeed if the job is so menial that the material difference between someone doing a good or a bad job is relatively small, then by all means pay minimum wage. But you can't demand much more than minimum ability and pride in the job if that's all you're willing to offer. 

[apollo4joe]

9 hours ago, Bamba's Babes said:

How are Bournemouth turning nearly £100M more than us?

I thought the exaxt same thing when I saw this, and this was there first year in he Prem too?

[lgfualol]

If Huddersfield can afford to pay £8.50 an hour then we shouldn't have a problem. 

 

Also second the question how the **** Bournemouth turned over £210m..

 

Edit. Just read they got Spurs and Bournemouth's numbers mixed up.

[Stan]

We all end up subsidising crap employers who can't be bothered to pay decent wages.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

The club are a major employer. Guess season ticket prices should go up to pay any extra wage?

 

Don't think the work is ball breaking, some part time and a free watch of the game.

 

Catering is a different 'ball game' Subbed out to a division of Compass, now they do take the piss.

[Jordan]

23 hours ago, Kilworthfox said:

If no laws are broken, what's the issue?

 

If the minimum wage is being paid, why target football clubs?

 

Surely we should all be asking more important questions, like what's happened to the bankers, how have their regulations changed and been tightened, so that the nations tax money was used for good, and there is a good reason why that put everyone's standards of living down.

 

But lets just look at Football?...

We’re just looking at football because this is a football forum and the issue at hand is relevant to Leicester City.

 

If you’re referring Citizens UK, a quick look at their website and social media will show they’re capable of discussing more than one issue at a time.

 

And surely people are, generally speaking, talking about bankers as well? I’d guess you’ll probably find more discussion in General Chat about those more overarching topics than you’ll find on this entire forum about how the club we support treats its non-football staff.

[waylander]

21 hours ago, Kitchandro said:

The problem is people aren't getting paid much and it's depressing. I don't think it's pathetic, it's democracy. The people want a better reward for their hard work and they will forever argue this.

 

Rich companies should be paying their employees more, simple as that. It's just the decent thing to do when your turnover is so high, it's better for all society.

Nice post kich for president. Capitalism fails the majority and rapes the world give something back.

[waylander]

7 hours ago, MarshallForEngland said:

My general opinion of companies paying the legal minimum wage is that they are basically saying they would pay less if they could but they're not allowed. I'm not saying that's a bad thing necessarily, it's a company's prerogative to do that and nobody is forced to work there. It all depends on what the company values. If as a company you're not particularly concerned about whether or not your employees give a damn about their job, or if you don't care much about how the image of the company or brand will be affected by a potentially demotivated workforce, or indeed if the job is so menial that the material difference between someone doing a good or a bad job is relatively small, then by all means pay minimum wage. But you can't demand much more than minimum ability and pride in the job if that's all you're willing to offer. 

Worked with a fella who said an accountant a politician a banker a lawyer a judge an estate agent a ceo and a director should be taken out every year and publicly executed . And that would keep the rest of those robbing thieving rapeing bxxxxxds from ruining what left of the world there killing. Food for them and us. Just saying. ???

[NotTheMarketLeader]

20 hours ago, Smudge said:

Turnover is not a measure of wealth.

Costs can be higher than revenue and therefore, costs shouldn't be increased.

The correct analysis should be net profit versus low wages

I believe the wrong word was use by Kitch, which shouldn’t cloud the argument.

 

The point is, its pretty obvious that there is £100’s of millions of pound notes swilling around at the club, but they are not willing to pay a reasonable wage.

[Smudge]

27 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

I believe the wrong word was use by Kitch, which shouldn’t cloud the argument.

 

The point is, its pretty obvious that there is £100’s of millions of pound notes swilling around at the club, but they are not willing to pay a reasonable wage.

I agree that's why I raised the point. I wasn't trying to cloud any argument. Before I argued for or against, I'd want a lot more information than that.

 

Not willing to pay a reasonable wage? To who? How many? Part time or full time? we know nothing yet we judge! 

 

It also states that they are based on publicly advertised job ads, I mean it's hardly an in depth analysis is it?

 

 

 

 

 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

55 minutes ago, Smudge said:

I agree that's why I raised the point. I wasn't trying to cloud any argument. Before I argued for or against, I'd want a lot more information than that.

 

Not willing to pay a reasonable wage? To who? How many? Part time or full time? we know nothing yet we judge! 

 

It also states that they are based on publicly advertised job ads, I mean it's hardly an in depth analysis is it?

 

 

 

 

 

I didn’t realise this was an accounting issue that the OP raised; more a moral one based on the huge amounts of money within football and our club.

 

As I read things you are clouding the argument, in seemingly ‘showboating’ your accountancy knowledge which I’m pretty sure is not the issue OP intended to highlight.

 

Lastly we are citizens of this country and supporters of this club, which as a combination I would suggest makes us the most suitable arbiters on this matter given its only a forum for discussion, not a court of law ffs.