A defence of Matty James

[daddylonglegs]

1 minute ago, daddylonglegs said:

Seriously though his agent is an absolute genius. 4 year contract after a run of what, 4 games in the side? Fair play to the guy he's set for life now, but I'm sure he would obviously rather be fit and playing.  

***2.2 games. Here's a 4 year contract. Madness

[Stevosevic]

Exactly why King is more use to us than James.

 

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, daddylonglegs said:

Seriously though his agent is an absolute genius. 4 year contract after a run of what, 4 games in the side? Fair play to the guy he's set for life now, but I'm sure he would obviously rather be fit and playing.  

Players can be kept about for more than just footballing reasons, Wasyl was pretty much useless his last two years for instance. I know people can't wait to get rid of the likes of James and King for fancy names. But, just like Silva pointed out, it's players like those guys who are incredibly important for the squad and the spirit within it.

 

Them helping Silva settle when he was at his lowest, shows exactly what they are all about. I might not think King is a great player, or that he offers us much any more on the pitch. But I've certainly never wanted him gone if he's happy to be at the club lower down the pecking order. Because some types of people are important to have about.

[daddylonglegs]

3 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Players can be kept about for more than just footballing reasons, Wasyl was pretty much useless his last two years for instance. I know people can't wait to get rid of the likes of James and King for fancy names. But, just like Silva pointed out, it's players like those guys who are incredibly important for the squad and the spirit within it.

 

Them helping Silva settle when he was at his lowest, shows exactly what they are all about. I might not think King is a great player, or that he offers us much any more on the pitch. But I've certainly never wanted him gone if he's happy to be at the club lower down the pecking order. Because some types of people are important to have about.

Definitely share your opinion re King. Some of the stick he got on here was ludicrous. You need characters that gel the team together off the pitch so can understand the importance of someone like James.

Perhaps 4 years is a tad generous, mind. 

[Babylon]

7 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

Definitely share your opinion re King. Some of the stick he got on here was ludicrous. You need characters that gel the team together off the pitch so can understand the importance of someone like James.

Perhaps 4 years is a tad generous, mind. 

I suppose that depends on the deal really, all we know is it was four years. Not whether he took lower wages, longer contract for security. Or whether there is a pay as you play deal involved. Who knows.

 

We could feasibly be paying players who are on loan elsewhere more than we pay James, and they aren't even here!

[Ian Nacho]

3 hours ago, Mike Oxlong said:

Matty James would’ve made Steven Hawking look fit. 

Even now.

[Bert]

43 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Players can be kept about for more than just footballing reasons, Wasyl was pretty much useless his last two years for instance. I know people can't wait to get rid of the likes of James and King for fancy names. But, just like Silva pointed out, it's players like those guys who are incredibly important for the squad and the spirit within it.

 

Them helping Silva settle when he was at his lowest, shows exactly what they are all about. I might not think King is a great player, or that he offers us much any more on the pitch. But I've certainly never wanted him gone if he's happy to be at the club lower down the pecking order. Because some types of people are important to have about.

Yep, James was a massive help to Silva as they spent a lot time in the gym together. 

 

Cant help but feel for James. He's a terrific footballer and has had some absolute rotten luck. 

[Mike Oxlong]

42 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

Even now.

 

James is fractionally more mobile. 

[Fox92]

2 hours ago, Stevosevic said:

Exactly why King is more use to us than James.

 

I think this.

 

They both retain the ball (sideways and backwards) but King will be able to play in more games and scores more goals. Even this season he got one at Southampton.

[The whole world smiles]

4 hours ago, daddylonglegs said:

Seriously though his agent is an absolute genius. 4 year contract after a run of what, 4 games in the side? Fair play to the guy he's set for life now, but I'm sure he would obviously rather be fit and playing.  

Not really, He started 19 out of 20 games for Barnsley he then impressed during pre season and started our first 4 games. He was also linked heavily to a move to WBA. Obviously in light of latest injury, with hindsight it was probably a mistake but trust me at the time he signed no one was complaining.

[Nigel Graham Pearson]

4 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

trust me at the time he signed no one was complaining.

Well that’s demonstrably false:

Makes interesting reading now. 

[daddylonglegs]

32 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

Not really, He started 19 out of 20 games for Barnsley he then impressed during pre season and started our first 4 games. He was also linked heavily to a move to WBA. Obviously in light of latest injury, with hindsight it was probably a mistake but trust me at the time he signed no one was complaining.

The point I'm making is that he started 2 games then was rewarded with a contract. 

[The whole world smiles]

35 minutes ago, Nigel Graham Pearson said:

Well that’s demonstrably false:

Makes interesting reading now. 

Ok i'll retract that! how about "at the time the general reaction to him signing was positive"

[The whole world smiles]

14 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

The point I'm making is that he started 2 games then was rewarded with a contract. 

The point i'm making is no one is rewarded with a contract.

 

They are a stone cold business decision. if people got new contracts because they deserved one don't you think they would be sitting down with big Huth now dotting the I's and crossing the T's?

 

He was given a contract because it made business sense to keep him after he had proved his fitness at Barnsley and pre season rather than sell him on the cheap to WBA.

Edited 6 April 2018 by The whole world smiles

[Chico1958]

To be fair I feel for the guy, fancy wanting to do something you love and only have 10 maybe 15 years at best to do and your body keeps letting you down.

 

It's not like some who've wasted the talent they have or had. Hope it works out for him one way or another.

 

As for the contract, we don't know what's in it. As somebody has already said.

Edited 7 April 2018 by Chico1958

[limeydale]

Haven't seen him play much but for me he's too injury prone. Don't know if he should go or not but won't get another game in first team. Unfortunately it's as Don Meredith sings "Turn out the lights the party's over...they say that all good things must end".