4everfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 1 minute ago, That_Dude said: Release clause. Irrelevant. Still awful club management.
Guest ttfn Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 1 minute ago, AKCJ said: You wouldn't have taken 34m for Mahrez two years ago. Probably not because Mahrez was PFA footballer of the year.
AKCJ Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Just now, ttfn said: Probably not because Mahrez was PFA footballer of the year. I'm not sure what your point is then.
That_Dude Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 1 minute ago, 4everfox said: Irrelevant. Still awful club management. lol.
4everfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 3 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Ah so you'd keep him here until his contract ended and then let him walk out the door for free. As opposed to selling him below his value and turning the club into a perceived small time selling club? Hell yeah I would.
Guest ttfn Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 1 minute ago, AKCJ said: I'm not sure what your point is then. You’re the one comparing apples with oranges by comparing the value of Sadio Mane (who had achieved nothing in his career at that stage) 2 years ago with Riyad Mahrez today in order to prove your point that we’re no more of a pushover than anybody else. I’m not sure I disagree with your point but the examples used aren’t helpful.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 5 minutes ago, 4everfox said: As opposed to selling him below his value and turning the club into a perceived small time selling club? Hell yeah I would. Any that's "for the good of the club" how please?
murphy Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 4everfox said: Irrelevant. Still awful club management. Not really. Kante's release clause allowed us to sign him in the first place and we won the league. Without it it would not have happened. ...but I digress. Edited 3 July 2018 by murphy
AKCJ Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 3 minutes ago, ttfn said: You’re the one comparing apples with oranges by comparing the value of Sadio Mane (who had achieved nothing in his career at that stage) 2 years ago with Riyad Mahrez today in order to prove your point that we’re no more of a pushover than anybody else. I’m not sure I disagree with your point but the examples used aren’t helpful. Sadio Mane got 15 goals and 9 assists that season for Southampton. Very comparable to the average Mahrez has achieved with us (One terrible season, one unreal season, one poor season and one season similar to Mane's).
4everfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Just now, Sol thewall Bamba said: Any that's "for the good of the club" how please? Because we won't be perceived as a small time selling club... Its not about money, it's about sending a message and that message would benefit us more in the long run.
That_Dude Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Just now, 4everfox said: Good argument Still better than yours. I posted a longer post but you conveniently ignored it.
PegguyArphexad Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 4everfox said: Because we won't be perceived as a small time selling club... Its not about money, it's about sending a message and that message would benefit us more in the long run. To counter this - it's also important that we are not perceived by potential players (and their agents) as a club who are unwilling to sell. This will stop players from joining in the first place. It's not about ceding that we are a "small time selling club" but realising that we are not in the same league as the absolute elite but want to be an as attractive as possible proposition for players looking to make the leap to elite. Edited 3 July 2018 by PegguyArphexad Typo 1
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 5 minutes ago, 4everfox said: Its not about money Then why are you bothered about the fee!? 1 2
RonnieTodger Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 I've got a good source who told me that when the window started we were holding out for £90m but when Man City realised how ****ing irritating the Algerian fanboys are they wouldn't go over £60m. Good deal for us imo
4everfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 2 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Then why are you bothered about the fee!? You don't read so good no
Naz Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Better to take a hit of a few million now and have time to plan, and get the players in you need than wait until deadline day, and then try and make bids of £70m on the last day trying to replace him. Every club will just add £10m on to the fee. Better to do a deal now and plan properly. Going to deadline day and squeezing every penny out of the deal is a false economy.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Just now, 4everfox said: You don't read so good no You're getting shown up left right and centre, just step away from the computer for a bit and calm down. 1
foxgas Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 You can't rack up the price when only one club is interested. I hope they have a nice comfy bench for him.
turtmcfly Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 4everfox said: Because we won't be perceived as a small time selling club... Its not about money, it's about sending a message and that message would benefit us more in the long run. Just in case anyone isn't aware of how deep this idiocy goes... @4everfox has previously said it would be fine if we ended up with Mahrez not playing for the remainder of his contract and leaving on a free i.e. forego 60-odd million quid we'd get for him in order to 'send a message'. Elsewhere in the news, @4everfox has made the surprising admission that he is not a multi-millionaire. Edited 3 July 2018 by turtmcfly 2
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 1 minute ago, turtmcfly said: Elsewhere in the news, @4everfox has made the surprising admission that he is not a multi-millionaire. It's not about the money!!!!
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 24 minutes ago, TonyN11 said: I'm also relieved this is happening, very interested to see how we get on! Haha, yeah, will keep an eye on that situation also
4everfox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 4 minutes ago, PegguyArphexad said: To counter this - it's also important that we are not perceived by potential players (and their agents) as a club who are unwilling to sell. This will stop players from joining in the first place. It's not about ceding that we are a "small time selling club" but realising that we are not in the same league as the absolute elite but want to be an as attractive as possible proposition for players looking to make the leap to elite. Why would any top class player want to join a club with no ambition? Because selling players below their value = no ambition. There isn't anything wrong with actually selling players for what they are worth you know, that's how ambitious clubs operate.
Cincinnati Fox Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 Whilst 60 million seems too cheap, it is about the 12th highest transfer fee ever.
That_Dude Posted 3 July 2018 Posted 3 July 2018 6 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Then why are you bothered about the fee!? Well it's all about principles. - Flushing 60M+ add-ons down the toilet. - Sending a star player to the reserve whilst still paying his wages and then let him go for free. - Reflecting a disastrous image which will be gladly relayed by the media who love us so much. - Creating unrest and a toxic atmosphere in the dressing room due to the Mahrez situation and making players nervous if it comes an eventual transfer. - Putting off any talented player who will never sign unless a release clause is inserted. All of this doesn't matter, we will stick to the price because we're no push-overs. That'll show them. 1
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