Should we be concerned?

[Lambert09]

27 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I don’t really get this - we’ve sold Mahrez that’s it, who we lost other than that to make it worse ? 

Surely Mahrez is enough to make the squad worse? We've also lost Dragovic who is arguably better than Evans.  But forgetting that, some of the better players in the squad are all older (Vardy, Fuchs, Simpson, Morgan, Iborra, Ulloa, Slimani) You can argue they would all be worse than last season whilst the first team youngsters who you'd think would improve are only (n'didi, Gray, Chillwell, Iheanacho)  

 

Just my opinion but the overhaul the squad needed simply hasnt happened. 

Edited 31 July 2018 by Lambert09

[Suzie the Fox]

3 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

Surely Mahrez is enough to make the squad worse? We've also lost Dragovic who is arguably better than Evans.  But forgetting that, some of the better players in the squad are all older (Vardy, Fuchs, Simpson, Morgan, Iborra, Ulloa, Slimani) You can argue they would all be worse than last season whilst the first team youngsters who you'd think would improve are only (n'didi, Gray, Chillwell, Iheanacho)  

 

Just my opinion but the overhaul the squad needed simply hasnt happened. 

 

Based on 2 pre season friendlies? 

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, inckley fox said:

Agree totally, though sides good enough for a good finish still go down. Look at the squad we had going into 2001/02 - with Walker, Flowers, Rowett, Sinclair, Elliott, Impey, W***, Savage, Izzet, Sturridge at our disposal, most thought it should have done a lot better than the Bolton side that turned us over on game one. In that particular example, you can add Taggart, who we never expected to be out for the season, then Piper and Dickov who came into the equation as the season progressed. It seems crazy that that side went down. Equally, look at Pleat's squad for 1988/89 (Walsh, McAllister, Newell) and it should have gone up rather than finishing 15th. Regardless of the quality you have, if it doesn't click with the manager and you have a disproportionate amount of dross clogging up the squad, there's always a risk.

I'm not saying it's impossible, clearly it's not. But I don't think it will be an issue with the squad that would cause it. If Burnley can finish top half what excuse does our group have. It's on Puel now.

Edited 31 July 2018 by Babylon

[RODNEY FERNIO]

12 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

Surely Mahrez is enough to make the squad worse? We've also lost Dragovic who is arguably better than Evans.  But forgetting that, some of the better players in the squad are all older (Vardy, Fuchs, Simpson, Morgan, Iborra, Ulloa, Slimani) You can argue they would all be worse than last season whilst the first team youngsters who you'd think would improve are only (n'didi, Gray, Chillwell, Iheanacho)  

 

Just my opinion but the overhaul the squad needed simply hasnt happened. 

 

Great player that Mahrez is you cannot under estimate the negative effect of him effectively going on strike at a crucial time.

A football club does not rely on one player.

[Guest Col city fan]

1 hour ago, SecretPro said:

We've got a fair starting 11. 

 

We have an awful squad. 

That’s exactly how I see it. Our ‘first 11’ will do ok. It’s after that I really worry. 

[Guest Col city fan]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

I'm not saying it's impossible, clearly it's not. But I don't think it will be an issue with the squad that would cause it. If Burnley can finish top half what excuse does our group have. It's on Puel now.

 

Why isn’t it on the players too? They carry the can for their own performances surely?

[Babylon]

Just now, Col city fan said:

Why isn’t it on the players too? They carry the can for their own performances surely?

It's on Puel to get the best out of them, the players aint getting sacked.

[Lambert09]

2 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Based on 2 pre season friendlies? 

Based on watching football, Leicester’s not exactly His first club is it?

[Suzie the Fox]

1 minute ago, Lambert09 said:

Based on watching football, Leicester’s not exactly His first club is it?

I wasn't being an ass when i quoted you, although re-reading it may have come across as seen as that.

 

I don't think he is amazing also based on previously watching him, but i wouldnt consider him way worse than Drago (who i would have loved to keep btw.) I think perhaps its harsh to make rash decisions on him right now though, as it really will be down to how he fits in with us.

 

And we can't really base that on a player from 2 part shows in a couple of friendlies. 

[Guest Col city fan]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

It's on Puel to get the best out of them, the players aint getting sacked.

Ah I getcha! No, very true..

[foxinsocks]

There was no option to keep mahrez.  We are now better without him as he had become a sideshow that was disrupting things.  

So letting him go moves us fwd... i agree that a focussed contributing mahrez woyld be best. . But that bird flew a long time back.

So we look at what we have and see what puel can do with them....

I have doubts.... but i have been astonished before.... let'skeep negativity at bay and see how it goes.  This is a year when guys like puel diabate grey madison silva and pirera can make their names... some will some wont. ..let's see

 

Edited 31 July 2018 by foxinsocks

[Lambert09]

2 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

I wasn't being an ass when i quoted you, although re-reading it may have come across as seen as that.

 

I don't think he is amazing also based on previously watching him, but i wouldnt consider him way worse than Drago (who i would have loved to keep btw.) I think perhaps its harsh to make rash decisions on him right now though, as it really will be down to how he fits in with us.

 

And we can't really base that on a player from 2 part shows in a couple of friendlies. 

Yeah I agree. I’m not saying he will be worse but there’s an argument that he could be. 

 

I just don’t personally see us stronger in cb than last year. Hopefully JE will prove me wrong.

[foxinsocks]

What happened to drag btw?

[Suzie the Fox]

3 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

Yeah I agree. I’m not saying he will be worse but there’s an argument that he could be. 

 

I just don’t personally see us stronger in cb than last year. Hopefully JE will prove me wrong.

To be honest my main gripe was that any player you bring in needs to gel with the team and Drago showed he could do that. Now i know there could be many reasons behind the scenes that we will never get to know about, but it seems very odd we never took up the option to buy. (Also found it super weird we chose Wes over him in some games.. )

[TMELcfc]

I’m pessimistic about our chances when the end of the season was dreadful, shipped loads of goals, not enough players coming in, best player has left and rumours more might go.

I cannot see us getting a point from Utd or Wolves (who are high, we are polar opposite)... we won’t go down (I hope) as after 5-6 games Puel will get sacked... and we’ll get a new manager bounce etc. And hopefully do enough. But people saying top 8... cloud cuckoo 

 

[gurru991]

3 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I don’t really get this - we’ve sold Mahrez that’s it, who we lost other than that to make it worse ? 

Maddison & Pereira should be amazing additions & while I like Evans a lot I feel we could use one more CB but overall this is a better squad than last year. 

[TMELcfc]

5 minutes ago, gurru991 said:

Maddison & Pereira should be amazing additions & while I like Evans a lot I feel we could use one more CB but overall this is a better squad than last year. 

Better squad at the moment... and do you have faith in the manager? 

[Fox92]

I don't think we'll go down but top 10 maybe tougher. A good cup run (ie. a final or semi-final) would be superb for us.

Edited 31 July 2018 by Fox92

[Corky]

We desperately need to improve the home form, another three wins at least required.

[Suzie the Fox]

5 minutes ago, Corky said:

We desperately need to improve the home form, another three wins at least required.

This perhaps was my biggest issue last season (and that includes bringing in Puel as manager.) We always seemed to be a team hard to beat at home and last year was the polar opposite. 

 

[W88DY]

23 hours ago, Jakemoore said:

 Someone give me a reason to cheer up and get excited about August 10th! 

Cus we will win our 1st game, will that do?

[Jakemoore]

15 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I’d be concerned if I myself could actually change it. I can’t. So why would I get concerned about something I can’t alter or change ? 

Might as well not bother watching it then. Shit reply. Shit attitude. 

[gurru991]

27 minutes ago, lcfceaves said:

Better squad at the moment... and do you have faith in the manager? 

My 100% truthful answer is I really don't know. I loved him when he first got here & we were playing some quality football, then I hated him when  

our game turned around & we looked shit. I'm hoping that given a pre-season & a transfer window he will excel. I'm prepared to give him 10 to 12 games to prove himself & hope with all my heart that he does but I know our owners will not accept relegation as an alternative and he will be gone if we are floating around the "R"zone.

The problem is always the same in that very few top quality managers are available once the season is underway so I'm truly hoping that he is very successful

[CosbehFox]

39 minutes ago, Jakemoore said:

Might as well not bother watching it then. Shit reply. Shit attitude. 

Hahaha, it’s called perspective. 

 

First game of the season. I’m leaving my house at 5.45am to catch a 6.20am train up to Manchester. I will work out of my companies Manchester office until 4 and then check in a hotel I’ve booked three weeks ago. Don’t tell me it’s a shit attitude. 

 

Get concerned about things you can impact, not what you can’t. If you know the source of where I learnt this from, I doubt you’d call it a shit attitude then 

Edited 31 July 2018 by Cardiff_Fox

[Max Wall]

5 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

Surely Mahrez is enough to make the squad worse? We've also lost Dragovic who is arguably better than Evans.  But forgetting that, some of the better players in the squad are all older (Vardy, Fuchs, Simpson, Morgan, Iborra, Ulloa, Slimani) You can argue they would all be worse than last season whilst the first team youngsters who you'd think would improve are only (n'didi, Gray, Chillwell, Iheanacho)  

 

Just my opinion but the overhaul the squad needed simply hasnt happened. 

 

Dragovic was never ours to lose in reality.

Yes, losing Mahrez would be a blow to any team but we have also strengthened in 3 key areas.

Most of us would like another creative player and possibly, another centre back but I don't think the squads worse overall.