Shane Posted 11 October 2019 Posted 11 October 2019 not sure about plan b for Vardy, but maybe Hirst can replace Kane in the England squad
Guest Eamonn Posted 11 October 2019 Posted 11 October 2019 7 hours ago, An Sionnach said: Never going to know if you don't try , we have one striker , not one of our other players has even a decent goals per minute record , sometimes you have to throw them in and see and his dad was a good player. He seems to have started well in PL2. I'd rather he had a loan spell in the Championship first. Maybe Wednesday would take him back for a few months....
gurru991 Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 48 minutes ago, Eamonn said: He seems to have started well in PL2. I'd rather he had a loan spell in the Championship first. Maybe Wednesday would take him back for a few months.... He was a hated person when he left, don't think they would welcome him back.
majaco Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 Maybe Akinbiyi is ready now. Worth giving him a go? You never know?
Guest Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 I don't think I'm watching the same player for the U23s as everyone else. He isn't even the best Hirst in the team and looks to be Div 1 standard at best.
jayfox26 Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 18 hours ago, An Sionnach said: Never going to know if you don't try , we have one striker , not one of our other players has even a decent goals per minute record , sometimes you have to throw them in and see and his dad was a good player. Yeh this doesn't often work out, just ask Jordi Cruyff! Or Alex Bruce.
jayfox26 Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 13 hours ago, Shane said: not sure about plan b for Vardy, but maybe Hirst can replace Kane in the England squad Is he any good at penalties though? If not then he cant replace Kane
Clever Fox Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 It can be very hard for a young Man to live up to his Fathers reputation. He hasn't done it yet, But the best thing he can do is just be himself, train and work hard like all good players and see where that takes him. We should definitely be searching worldwide for a replacement for Vardy. Not necessarily the same type of player but a player who can lead the line and also has pace.
MPH Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 4 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: It can be very hard for a young Man to live up to his Fathers reputation. He hasn't done it yet, But the best thing he can do is just be himself, train and work hard like all good players and see where that takes him. We should definitely be searching worldwide for a replacement for Vardy. Not necessarily the same type of player but a player who can lead the line and also has pace. my preferred replacement for Vardy, based on one game that i saw of him is Franky Chan who plays for Salzburg
Clever Fox Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 24 minutes ago, MPH said: my preferred replacement for Vardy, based on one game that i saw of him is Franky Chan who plays for Salzburg I haven't seen him play so cannot comment but he's the right age and at 6ft 3 in he's going to win a few more headed goals than Vardy.
PaulW Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 12 hours ago, gurru991 said: He was a hated person when he left, don't think they would welcome him back. I rather got the impression that they had a lot of sympathy for him because of the way the Wednesday management handled him.
MPH Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 4 hours ago, Clever Fox said: I haven't seen him play so cannot comment but he's the right age and at 6ft 3 in he's going to win a few more headed goals than Vardy. but not the pace or skill to fulfil the way vardy plays which is what we are set up to do. It’s kind of like putting a shot putter in for the 100 metre race. it’s just not going to end well.
gurru991 Posted 12 October 2019 Posted 12 October 2019 8 hours ago, PaulW said: I rather got the impression that they had a lot of sympathy for him because of the way the Wednesday management handled him. I didn't get that feeling from their forum. Their was some sympathy from a few fans but lots of animosity to Hirst and lots & lots to Leicester. They felt we had done them dirty.
Clever Fox Posted 15 October 2019 Posted 15 October 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 18:16, MPH said: but not the pace or skill to fulfil the way vardy plays which is what we are set up to do. It’s kind of like putting a shot putter in for the 100 metre race. it’s just not going to end well. I know what you mean. Is that Hirst or Chan who doesn't have the pace of Vardy. ? It may well be that we have to change our whole approach, Which is what I think we need as a pan B
MPH Posted 15 October 2019 Posted 15 October 2019 5 hours ago, Clever Fox said: I know what you mean. Is that Hirst or Chan who doesn't have the pace of Vardy. ? It may well be that we have to change our whole approach, Which is what I think we need as a pan B you might be right in a possible need to change how we play one day. Id be surprised if we changed our whole system without trying out a replacement for Vardy first. Very few have the same pace as him but i’d still rate Chen as Pacey. Hirst reminds me of an attacker we used to have - Ashley Ward. Hirst isn’t a donkey he just doesn’t have the pace to be utilized in the system we have. We’d be more likely to change our system for a worldie we get our hands on but not someone who struggled in the Belgian second division..
TJB-fox Posted 15 October 2019 Posted 15 October 2019 1 hour ago, MPH said: you might be right in a possible need to change how we play one day. Id be surprised if we changed our whole system without trying out a replacement for Vardy first. Very few have the same pace as him but i’d still rate Chen as Pacey. Hirst reminds me of an attacker we used to have - Ashley Ward. Hirst isn’t a donkey he just doesn’t have the pace to be utilized in the system we have. We’d be more likely to change our system for a worldie we get our hands on but not someone who struggled in the Belgian second division.. Don’t think his pace is that important to us these days, it’s his hold up play, movement and just sheer ruthlessness that makes him so crucial to the way we play. Attributes that are hard to find.
MPH Posted 15 October 2019 Posted 15 October 2019 8 minutes ago, TJB-fox said: Don’t think his pace is that important to us these days, it’s his hold up play, movement and just sheer ruthlessness that makes him so crucial to the way we play. Attributes that are hard to find. think we still need his pace. been sone important counter attacks he’s been a part of and we’ll need more of that as the season progresses
Guest An Sionnach Posted 15 October 2019 Posted 15 October 2019 5 minutes ago, MPH said: think we still need his pace. been sone important counter attacks he’s been a part of and we’ll need more of that as the season progresses Ulloa gave us a plan b , he scored vital goals and he had little pace .If defences sit deep Jamie's pace is less effective and Ulloa's size created space especially from set pieces.
Clever Fox Posted 15 October 2019 Posted 15 October 2019 19 minutes ago, TJB-fox said: Don’t think his pace is that important to us these days, it’s his hold up play, movement and just sheer ruthlessness that makes him so crucial to the way we play. Attributes that are hard to find. Pace is always important, It's the one skill you cant really Coach. Players either have it or they don't. What is difficult is to find a Striker with Pace Skill and Strength.
Guest An Sionnach Posted 15 October 2019 Posted 15 October 2019 22 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: What is difficult is to find a Striker with Pace Skill and Strength That's why Ronaldo is such great player , he uses all three to impose himself . It made up for the lack of genius compared to Messi.
TJB-fox Posted 15 October 2019 Posted 15 October 2019 49 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: Pace is always important, It's the one skill you cant really Coach. Players either have it or they don't. What is difficult is to find a Striker with Pace Skill and Strength. Rather have it than not but in my opinion Vardy hasnt relied on his pace anywhere near like he used to. It’s his movement and natural finishing that makes him so good.
MPH Posted 15 October 2019 Posted 15 October 2019 1 hour ago, An Sionnach said: Ulloa gave us a plan b , he scored vital goals and he had little pace .If defences sit deep Jamie's pace is less effective and Ulloa's size created space especially from set pieces. I don’t think George Hirst is anywhere near the same lvl of player as Ulloa. and probably never will be. Plan Bs are the same as plan As- they’ll only work if you have the players to execute them.
Clever Fox Posted 15 October 2019 Posted 15 October 2019 2 hours ago, TJB-fox said: Rather have it than not but in my opinion Vardy hasnt relied on his pace anywhere near like he used to. It’s his movement and natural finishing that makes him so good. Your perfectly right, He's less of a one trick pony now and has added timing, positioning and guile to his skill set. Plus it helps greatly when your Manager has great confidence in you. That rubs off on players and it's one thing BR is good at delivering.
urban.spaceman Posted 19 October 2019 Posted 19 October 2019 Some fascinating edits on his Wikipedia history He’s not popular with some people for some reason
Guest An Sionnach Posted 31 October 2019 Posted 31 October 2019 Continues to impress for the U23s ,gonna have to use him or lose him soon. Anybody know when he is contracted to .
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