st albans fox Posted 5 December 2019 Posted 5 December 2019 36 minutes ago, brucey said: point here is that it may not be perceived to be a clear and obvious error not to award the pen. there are people out there who don't believe there is enough contact to warrant it being a pen. therefore i can understand the unwillingness of the VAR to over rule the on field official. HOWEVER, there is clearly not a dive/simulation and the referee should be told to withdraw the card. vardy was one mistimed tackle away from being sent off which would have been ridiculous. this outcome where a ref withdraws a yellow card would require the crowd to be mature enough to accept it wasn't either a dive or a pen.
UniFox21 Posted 5 December 2019 Posted 5 December 2019 1 hour ago, brucey said: The state of the FA I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a bollocking for this
Sunbury Fox Posted 5 December 2019 Posted 5 December 2019 4 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: The state of the FA I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a bollocking for this Southgate will no doubt use it as excuse for leaving him out again...
UniFox21 Posted 5 December 2019 Posted 5 December 2019 1 minute ago, Sunbury Fox said: Southgate will no doubt use it as excuse for leaving him out again... He's clearly out of control, this and the casino shows he clearly isn't mature enough for england duty. The immense Mason Mount and Alli must be used instead
Leeds Fox Posted 5 December 2019 Posted 5 December 2019 Just now, UniFox21 said: He's clearly out of control, this and the casino shows he clearly isn't mature enough for england duty. The immense Mason Mount and Alli must be used instead He needs to get left out of the Euro’s squad, get filmed having sex with other team mates who’ve not been selected and he’ll have a great England career.
shen Posted 7 December 2019 Posted 7 December 2019 On 04/12/2019 at 23:54, urban fox said: Pretty much the point i was making earlier. VAR cannot change a decision on a yellow card, even if it is a second and therefore a sending off. it can be used only for straight reds. So it was suggested that if VAR gave the pen then that would rescind the card but i think not. once given VAR cannot change that so we would have had the situation were the pen was given for a clear and obvious error but the yellow would have still stood. There is no way that VAR which is run by refs would let any of their mates be put in that situation so hence pen not given. I think this point has to be clarified. Many purported that Mane pen at Anfield should have been overturned and that he be booked for diving. Even had the pen not been given VAR could not result in a yellow card being given as the only decision it could change was whether or not the ref was right to award the pen itself. I will be happy to be corrected in this but am pretty certain this is the case Had the decision been overturned and the penalty given, the yellow card would've been rescinded on the field. As per Dermot Gallagher.
Dorkingfox Posted 7 December 2019 Posted 7 December 2019 On 05/12/2019 at 17:56, UniFox21 said: The state of the FA I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a bollocking for this Yes, he should be punished for telling the truth.
foxinsocks Posted 7 December 2019 Posted 7 December 2019 On 05/12/2019 at 17:00, st albans fox said: point here is that it may not be perceived to be a clear and obvious error not to award the pen. there are people out there who don't believe there is enough contact to warrant it being a pen. therefore i can understand the unwillingness of the VAR to over rule the on field official. HOWEVER, there is clearly not a dive/simulation and the referee should be told to withdraw the card. vardy was one mistimed tackle away from being sent off which would have been ridiculous. this outcome where a ref withdraws a yellow card would require the crowd to be mature enough to accept it wasn't either a dive or a pen. That is the first time I have seen it. Imo vardy is spinning left. The defender is Kate and trips him. It was a pen. However rather than asking var to decide if it's a pen they are asked if the ref made a clear and obvious error as you say. The use of carving thus resiwct us a joke and needs to be changed. Yet you are dead right that the card needs to be withdrawn asap. Var has been party to allowing the clear and obvious yellow card error stand. Shame on them. Nb the ref shouldn't have got the card out until after the var che k.had they given a oen then would the ref have uncarded Jamie?
st albans fox Posted 7 December 2019 Posted 7 December 2019 4 hours ago, foxinsocks said: had they given a oen then would the ref have uncarded Jamie? Yes
Vardinio'sCat Posted 13 December 2019 Posted 13 December 2019 On 05/12/2019 at 10:00, Les-TA-Jon said: We won 9 in a row in the Championship in 2014. Bugger, yes, good point... best run in the top flight then.
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