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Access to Premier League Games Denied To Faithful LCFC Fans

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4 hours ago, Corky said:

What can we actually do? 

The Foxes Trust has been raising the issue for several weeks (both with the club & nationally) Our representative was in a meeting with the Premier League earlier this week, working with other Trusts and following that meeting decided to start this public campaign

 

We are contacting all the other main LCFC Fans Groups and asking them to back the campaign

 

On this message board, perhaps someone could create a new post on here asking all posters to back it - if we can have focused responses making it clear you want access to all games & the numbers are good, we could then state the Foxestalk message board is one of the LCFC fans groups backing the campaign... over to all the posters on here....

 

 

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13 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

The Foxes Trust has been raising the issue for several weeks (both with the club & nationally) Our representative was in a meeting with the Premier League earlier this week, working with other Trusts and following that meeting decided to start this public campaign

 

We are contacting all the other main LCFC Fans Groups and asking them to back the campaign

 

On this message board, perhaps someone could create a new post on here asking all posters to back it - if we can have focused responses making it clear you want access to all games & the numbers are good, we could then state the Foxestalk message board is one of the LCFC fans groups backing the campaign... over to all the posters on here....

 

 

Surely this thread is good enough to categorically say fans want a way of watching games or is a clearer poll like thread preferential?

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45 minutes ago, FoyleFox said:

The EFL have agreed a deal with clubs in all 3 divisions to allow them to stream games next season until stadiums are at 50% capacity.

 

Sky and the Premier League need to have a discussion now.

You're asking Sky to cut their own throats, if the clubs sell direct, why does anyone need Sky? If the clubs want more money to show games, Sky might not have the money without putting up subscriptions. 

 

There are no easy answers to this. 

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2 minutes ago, Webbo said:

You're asking Sky to cut their own throats, if the clubs sell direct, why does anyone need Sky? If the clubs want more money to show games, Sky might not have the money without putting up subscriptions. 

 

There are no easy answers to this. 

One way to do it would be Sky/Bt to get their picks and then clubs offer ability to sell subscriptions for all other games. That way Sky/BT get their games they crave and clubs can provide ways to watch. 

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There are no easy answers to anything at the moment, it's a try for a compromise and workable solution in every aspect of life.

 

In the EFL the clubs could only stream games which were not scheduled for tv. If the broadcaster didn't have it scheduled and the club stream it, the broadcaster isn't missing out.

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55 minutes ago, Webbo said:

You're asking Sky to cut their own throats, if the clubs sell direct, why does anyone need Sky? If the clubs want more money to show games, Sky might not have the money without putting up subscriptions. 

 

There are no easy answers to this. 

They could live stream all 3pm KOs for ST holders for a fee this would not affect Sky, BT or Prime. It would also not affect the EFL games as those streaming would normally be at games. The fee could be split between the clubs and the broadcasters. It would take pressure off attendances, although LCFC seem to be doing a good job of that by themselves.

 

What's so complicated about that?

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28 minutes ago, davieG said:

They could live stream all 3pm KOs for ST holders for a fee this would not affect Sky, BT or Prime. It would also not affect the EFL games as those streaming would normally be at games. The fee could be split between the clubs and the broadcasters. It would take pressure off attendances, although LCFC seem to be doing a good job of that by themselves.

 

What's so complicated about that?

 Would you bother with a Sky sport subscription if you could buy just your own games, if you were paying 40 quid a month and still have to buy 4 or 5 of your teams games on top? We might go a month without one of our games on BT, wouldn't you just cancel it?

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4 minutes ago, Webbo said:

 Would you bother with a Sky sport subscription if you could buy just your own games, if you were paying 40 quid a month and still have to buy 4 or 5 of your teams games on top? We might go a month without one of our games on BT, wouldn't you just cancel it?

Sky sports don't do 3pm KOs so it's not an issue.

 

As for whether it's worth getting Sky/BT/Prime that's something people have to decide on now so that problem would be the same.

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10 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

Surely this thread is good enough to categorically say fans want a way of watching games or is a clearer poll like thread preferential?

Many of the posts on this thread discuss the merits of various streams & packages but don't directly state the posters support for our campaign. so yes someone creating a poll pm here would be a good idea.

 

It's best if one of the posters do it rather than us, then it can be stated as another supporters group

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9 hours ago, Webbo said:

 Would you bother with a Sky sport subscription if you could buy just your own games, if you were paying 40 quid a month and still have to buy 4 or 5 of your teams games on top? We might go a month without one of our games on BT, wouldn't you just cancel it?

The concept we are proposing relates to Season Ticket holders, who would normally be at the games and have no need for a TV subscription service, so having paid their £70 holding fee would quality for a paid for match by match stream, a bit like a NOW TV day pass. There would be an argument to include Members too (who will have paid an upfront £35 fee) but they wouldn't be certain to be at every game normally, so it weakens the argument

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Its silliness like this why people use illegal streaming services.

 

The fact we dont even air all the games now is so backwards thinking.  Never mind during a pandemic.

 

Also interesting that there was no interest to pay more cash, this shows the bubble is about to burst, I think the EPL has hit the peak in terms of revenue per game.

 

The sound thing to do would have been to air all the games in trade for the rebate been written off.  Everyone wins.

 

Also a message to the foxes trust, its not only match going supporters who matter, we not second class citizens.  But I do understand of course if people are paying normal going rates for season tickets the current situation is a farce.

 

Before the first lockdown we were on uk tv most weeks, mostly due to the rodgers hype and our league position, not so confident we will be so favoured this time, so illegal streams it is.

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17 hours ago, Webbo said:

You're asking Sky to cut their own throats, if the clubs sell direct, why does anyone need Sky? If the clubs want more money to show games, Sky might not have the money without putting up subscriptions. 

 

There are no easy answers to this. 

The one easy answer is that if there is no coverage then illegal streams thrive, and once individuals find out how to use them they potentially a lost sky customer for life.

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17 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

The one easy answer is that if there is no coverage then illegal streams thrive, and once individuals find out how to use them they potentially a lost sky customer for life.

Im sure everyone is aware illegal streams exist. It would have been taken into consideration. 

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7 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

The concept we are proposing relates to Season Ticket holders, who would normally be at the games and have no need for a TV subscription service, so having paid their £70 holding fee would quality for a paid for match by match stream, a bit like a NOW TV day pass. There would be an argument to include Members too (who will have paid an upfront £35 fee) but they wouldn't be certain to be at every game normally, so it weakens the argument

 

There's a whole load of us who live elsewhere, who don't get to games, who pay for Sky, BT and Prime and who would happily pay for streams of "spare" games featuring Leicester  City.

 

For years we have been asking for reliable streams we would pay for.  

 

I don't see why the club, in restricting this to season ticket holders and members, would exclude these far off fans, deny the club a source of further revenue and drive us into the arms of the illegal streamers? 

 

:dunno:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I reckon PL will cave eventually to an extent. They'll end up allowing one or two games per week on top of what's already allowed, perhaps with a caveat that teams can't have more than 2 or 3 consecutive games on TV? So hopefully ensuring there's some kind of even split and it's not always going to be Liverpool or Utd on. 

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9 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

Many of the posts on this thread discuss the merits of various streams & packages but don't directly state the posters support for our campaign. so yes someone creating a poll pm here would be a good idea.

 

It's best if one of the posters do it rather than us, then it can be stated as another supporters group

What is your campaign? 

 

A way for all fans to watch games or just STH/Members? 

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13 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

What is your campaign? 

 

A way for all fans to watch games or just STH/Members? 

If we went for all fans we have zero chance of winning the argument, but if access is restricted to fans who have paid some money upfront to their clubs (be that Season Tickets or Memberships) its a more sound argument

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