Seagrave Training Centre

[urban.spaceman]

23 minutes ago, -sodapop said:

This is maybe a stupid question, and I'm asking at I genuinely don't know how these things work, but who would even buy it if we were to try and sell it? It seems a pretty niche development but maybe the land value alone is something? Maybe Loughborough Uni?

Cash Converters?

[coolhandfox]

50 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

Mentioned in both of those very good videos now, the atmosphere and costs completely inappropriate for non elite players.

What we have learnt the hard way is the coaching personnel and squad building is far more important, I feel Vichai built this after the struggle to keep Mahrez thinking it would stop those type of problems in the future.

Nothing to do with whether players are elite or not, elite player can be part of a toxic culture as much as anyone.

 

The leadership of the the club cultivate the culture.

 

 

[Terraloon]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

We have one more year of PP to come. (We don’t get 3 because we were straight up and straight down again) 

we would still receive that final PP in league 1 

For the avoidance of doubt 

[wurmer]

6 hours ago, foxile5 said:

Out of interest why are you keen for this to be the case?

 

Companies house has King Power as our owner yet people get very agitated about Aiyawatt owning us. Why. 

Erm, I'm not - he's an absolute tool.

 

And yes, I've seen the latest Companies House - given the fact that KP is now run by someone who appears to be relatively competent, that actually gives a certain degree of mitigation to the absolute despair of being totally beholden to the complete disinterest and incompetence of Aiyawatt.

Edited 14 February by wurmer
Seen the update

[Sly]

On 14/02/2026 at 09:19, Sly said:

We’ll know more on the financial situation with King Power around the end of April I’d imagine, when the 2025 a accounts visible here

 

 

https://datawarehouse.dbd.go.th/company/profile/50105539024396

 

King Power have lots of other assets they’d be better off selling before Seagrave. I can imagine we’d be better sold as a complete package, training ground, stadium, players etc rather than piece meal. 
 

Belvoir Drive is an interesting one, as you can’t do a lot with it, unless the Council give planning permission for re-development. As its sports pitches, I wonder if they’d made a 6 a side facility on it and used it as an income stream, if that would suffice? Obviously annoy all the residents in Aylestone with shouting teenagers and massive floodlights, however that’s the price you pay …..

 

If King Power or the family at least go into administration, they’ve got hotels, sky scrapers, OHL, polo clubs etc, it just depends what gives.

 

If you look at King Power in terms of size, then going bust would be the equivalent of Heathrow Airport Retail Partners going bust.

 

King Power have got a semi monopoly in the market they’re in, however in my tourism retailer companies sizes, they’re not a Dufry or Lagardére. 

We will know the state of King Power soon I’d imagine. Pretty sure this will update with the April 2025 accounts, so we’ll have an indication on the state they’re in. 

[Footballwipe]

On 04/12/2020 at 22:22, King of Gipsy Lane said:

We are on our way to being a world class club on and off the pitch, this club was effectively wiped out 20 years ago and had to be saved by old players, now we have one of the worlds best training centres , won the league and have a global footprint, when we left filbert street I genuinely worried about the future of the club and the costs that were accumulating, now the club is world famous and growing daily, it’s been an amazing journey and can only grow further 

 

what a time to be a city fan 

Lol

[SemperEadem]

Said it before but it feels so over the top in size. Is there really the need for what seems like 40 ****ing pitches.

[Gamble92]

5 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Said it before but it feels so over the top in size. Is there really the need for what seems like 40 ****ing pitches.

It's always been the equivalent of Millhouse's Dad showing Homer his car bed. That's Top showing ever manager around

[Clever Fox]

On 24/04/2026 at 17:33, Sly said:

We will know the state of King Power soon I’d imagine. Pretty sure this will update with the April 2025 accounts, so we’ll have an indication on the state they’re in. 

I doubt it's anything to do with the amount of money kp have. 

I'd say it's more to do with the fact that the Board don't have any interest in us. 

All they've done is pour hundreds of millions each year to just stand still. 

Top put 124 million in last year and it just went into a black Hole. 

It was Top and Vichai that had our interest. Since the accident that has all changed. 

I suspect after this year's KP dividends, Top may well become the major shareholder. 

[Sly]

7 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

I doubt it's anything to do with the amount of money kp have. 

I'd say it's more to do with the fact that the Board don't have any interest in us. 

All they've done is pour hundreds of millions each year to just stand still. 

Top put 124 million in last year and it just went into a black Hole. 

It was Top and Vichai that had our interest. Since the accident that has all changed. 

I suspect after this year's KP dividends, Top may well become the major shareholder. 

King Power were supposedly bleeding money at one point as well, hence why we were considered a financial black hole. 
 

 

[GlenParvaFox]

Seagrave will have temporary lodgers while their own facility is being renovated. They won't need access all year round 🦁🦁🦁

Edited 27 April by GlenParvaFox

[Officer Doofy]

10 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

 

Top put 124 million in last year and it just went into a black Hole. 

 

He didn't though really. He converted debt to equity. The fact he wont get it back is actually his own doing as well. 

[Foxin_Mad]

35 minutes ago, Officer Doofy said:

He didn't though really. He converted debt to equity. The fact he wont get it back is actually his own doing as well. 

There is quite an easy route for him to get his money back too. He is going to have to bank roll us for a few years. He needs to sack the leadership that is responsible for this mess, get some competent football people in and give them automation  to build the structure to fix it. Rudkin needs to be sacked immediately. If he we remains in place, nothing will change. the decline will continue until he runs out of money. 

[Officer Doofy]

1 minute ago, Foxin_Mad said:

There is quite an easy route for him to get his money back too. He is going to have to bank roll us for a few years. He needs to sack the leadership that is responsible for this mess, get some competent football people in and give them automation  to build the structure to fix it. Rudkin needs to be sacked immediately. If he we remains in place, nothing will change. the decline will continue until he runs out of money. 

So he won't be getting it back then  

[Foxin_Mad]

Just now, Officer Doofy said:

So he won't be getting it back then  

If he keeps this weird misguided faith in Rudkin because 'he won the league 10 years ago' and has done absolutely **** all but spaff away money since, then no he wont! In reality Rudkin ahs cost the club over a billion quid with his incompetence, possibly more, I don't understand how anyone can remain in position or get promoted given that! Bizarre! 

 

Top is an idiot, I wish I could find an idiot billionaire to over promote me! 

[Clever Fox]

8 hours ago, Sly said:

King Power were supposedly bleeding money at one point as well, hence why we were considered a financial black hole. 
 

 

Yes Covid hit them bad but since 2023

I read they recovered most of the losses. They got ripped off by the Airport authority on the deal they done just before Covid. They had to honor the agreement when most Governments were trying to help Companies by adjusting or suspending Payments until things improved. 

 

As I said I don't think money itself  is the problem, I think the KP Board have no interest in Football or Leicester. 

I guess we'll find out if and when we hear how much they'll put forward this Summer. 

Top will receive a big dividend I'm sure but even if he used it all on us is it enough to get things turned around. 

[Sly]

2 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Yes Covid hit them bad but since 2023

I read they recovered most of the losses. They got ripped off by the Airport authority on the deal they done just before Covid. They had to honor the agreement when most Governments were trying to help Companies by adjusting or suspending Payments until things improved. 

 

As I said I don't think money itself  is the problem, I think the KP Board have no interest in Football or Leicester. 

I guess we'll find out if and when we hear how much they'll put forward this Summer. 

Top will receive a big dividend I'm sure but even if he used it all on us is it enough to get things turned around. 

The other thing is, does he really care enough? 
 

Much cheaper to run OHL! 

[Clever Fox]

6 hours ago, Officer Doofy said:

He didn't though really. He converted debt to equity. The fact he wont get it back is actually his own doing as well. 

He did I believe he put 124 million in cash of his own money in and increased his shareholding which is normal in business. I'm sure it was used to pay down debt. He also did the Marquire bank deal without which we could easily have gone into Administration. 

[Clever Fox]

14 minutes ago, Sly said:

The other thing is, does he really care enough? 
 

Much cheaper to run OHL! 

Honestly, I think he does care about us. 

He's been a Fan since 10 years long before he talked his Dad into buying us in 2010.

I'm sure he knows he has to stop the rot or he could lose everything. 

As without his Dad's support I don't think KP want to finance us. And he doesn't have the resources until we stableize our finances which might take a season or two. 

He needs to get rid of Rudkin and bring in a proper Manager or DOF. 

[CruzNoir]

From what I understand from those “in the know”, the training facility is sustainable and more than secure for a season in League 1.

 

Any more than one season in League 1 then things gets disgustingly complex as I’ve been told.

 

Major cut backs are obviously occurring within the facility and ideas being bashed together for utilising the facility too generate money, for example A Madrid are coming too use the facilities for a pretty price soon, there’s also jobs losses too amongst many of the repercussions of the situation we are in

 

anyone had the pleasure of visiting the facility? I can tell you that the clips online that look phenomenal do it no justice, you could without question imagine it too be fit for Barcelona or Real Madrid when you walk around it, makes it all the more embarrassing it’s a league 1 facility now.

Edited 27 April by CruzNoir

[GlenParvaFox]

1 minute ago, CruzNoir said:

From what I understand from those “in the know”, the training facility is sustainable and more than secure for a season in League 1.

 

Any more than one season in League 1 then things gets disgustingly complex as I’ve been told.

 

Major cut backs are obviously occurring within the facility and ideas being bashed together for utilising the facility too generate money, for example A Madrid are coming too use the facilities for a pretty price soon, there’s also jobs losses too amongst may of the repercussions of the situation we are in

 

anyone had the pleasure of visiting the facility? I can tell you the clips online the look phenomenal do it no justice, you could without question imagine it too be fit for Barcelona or Real Madrid when you walk around it, makes it all the more embarrassing it’s a league 1 facility now.

I was told that England will be using it while St George's Park is being renovated.

[SemperEadem]

21 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Honestly, I think he does care about us. 

He's been a Fan since 10 years long before he talked his Dad into buying us in 2010.

I'm sure he knows he has to stop the rot or he could lose everything. 

As without his Dad's support I don't think KP want to finance us. And he doesn't have the resources until we stableize our finances which might take a season or two. 

He needs to get rid of Rudkin and bring in a proper Manager or DOF. 

Do you believe that?

[Mickyblueeyes]

38 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Honestly, I think he does care about us. 

He's been a Fan since 10 years long before he talked his Dad into buying us in 2010.

I'm sure he knows he has to stop the rot or he could lose everything. 

As without his Dad's support I don't think KP want to finance us. And he doesn't have the resources until we stableize our finances which might take a season or two. 

He needs to get rid of Rudkin and bring in a proper Manager or DOF. 

I’m sorry but you don’t believe this rubbish - come on. 

[Clever Fox]

1 hour ago, SemperEadem said:

Do you believe that?

I do believe him simply because it would be an innocuous thing to say if it weren't true. 

Vichai himself said it was Top who encouraged him to buy the Club. 

I just hope he's learned from his mistakes of the past few years. 

[CruzNoir]

1 hour ago, SemperEadem said:

Do you believe that?

I personally do believe Top is heavily emotionally invested into the Club having been too the training facility.

 

Not only is the facility world class but throughout it are quite frankly highly emotive touches of what the club means too the family, I was quite taken aback tbh.

 

Top might be doing a piss poor job of things since his Dad passed, but if you went too the training ground and saw the family touches all around the facility, I’d challenge anyone too tell me he doesn’t give a toss afterwards.

 

changed my view on him, not too the point I’m a Top Cheer leader, but no doubt about it, it’s not a play thing for him, it’s much more than that