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Aue

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I mean you look at that top division and think that's tough for Bochum to stay in it.

Them along with Furth you would have down to struggle. But then can throw in will Koln have another stinker, will Union Berlin struggle to manage European games too and will Bielefeld have a second season syndrome.

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I don't know if it's because it's been on the cards for a few seasons or whether I've just happened to miss it all, but Bremen's relegation doesn't seem to have had much coverage at all. Looks like it'll be a good season in both of them divisions.

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8 minutes ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

I don't know if it's because it's been on the cards for a few seasons or whether I've just happened to miss it all, but Bremen's relegation doesn't seem to have had much coverage at all. Looks like it'll be a good season in both of them divisions.

Pretty much just got overshadowed by Schalke

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54 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Pretty much just got overshadowed by Schalke

Bremen were 40yrs in the Bundesliga...

Otto Rehagel 

4 times Champions..

6 times Cup..

 

Schalke..just a blue irritant neighbour of BVB

6 times Champions

4 times Cup

 

All Time best ..League . # BvB...2nd.  # Bremen..3rd   # Schalke...7th.. Who are Schalke..??

 

. Verein Jahre Sp. S U N T+ T- Diff. Punkte Ø-Pkt. BL-
Titel
Auf Ab US Spielzeiten Liga 2021/22
 1. FC Bayern München 56+  1908  1144  415  349 4232 2077 +2155 3847 2,02 30 1 0 56 1965– Bundesliga
 2. Borussia Dortmund 54+  1832  825  464  543 3291 2573 +718 2939 1,6 5 1 1 45 1963–72, 1976– Bundesliga
 3. Werder Bremen 57  1934  800  486  648 3210 2835 +375 2886 1,49 4 1 2 40 1963–80, 1981–2021 2. Bundesliga
 4. Hamburger SV 55  1866  746  495  625 2937 2662 +275 2733 1,46 3 0 1 55 1963–2018 2. Bundesliga
 5. VfB Stuttgart 54+  1832  752  443  637 3025 2683 +342 2699 1,47 3 3 3 39 1963–75, 1977–2016, 2017–19,
2020–
Bundesliga
 6. Borussia
Mönchengladbach
53+  1806  734  472  600 3076 2617 +459 2674 1,48 5 3 2 34 1965–99, 2001–07, 2008– Bundesliga
 7. FC Schalke 04 53  1798  693  453  652 2607 2607  ±0 2532 1,41 0 3 4 30 1963–81, 1982/83, 1984–88,
1991–2021
2. Bundesliga
 8. Eintracht Frankfurt[A 1] 52+  1764  650  448  666 2775 2733 +42 2396 1,36 0 4 4 33 1963–96, 1998–2001, 2003/04,
2005–11, 2012–
Bundesliga
 9. 1. FC Köln 49+  1662  647  422  593 2702 2493 +209 2363 1,42 2 6 6 35 1963–98, 2000–02, 2003/04,
2005/06, 2008–12, 2014–18,
2019–
Bundesliga
10. Bayer 04 Leverkusen 42+  1432  616  389  427 2405 1911 +494 2237 1,56 0 1 0 42 1979– Bundesliga
11. 1. FC Kaiserslautern[A 2] 44  1492  575  372  545 2348 2344  +4 2094 1,4 2 2 3 33 1963–96, 1997–2006, 2010–12 3. Liga
12. Hertha BSC 38+  1284  461  326  497 1808 1962 −154 1709 1,33 0 6 6 13 1963–65, 1968–80, 1982/83,
1990/91, 1997–2010, 2011/12,
2013–
Bundesliga
13. VfL Bochum 34+  1160  356  306  498 1602 1887 −285 1374 1,18 0 6 6 22 1971–93, 1994/95, 1996–99,
2000/01, 2002–05, 2006–10,
2021–
Bundesliga
14. 1. FC Nürnberg 33  1118  344  286  488 1428 1794 −366 1318 1,18 1 8 9 9 1963–69, 1978/79, 1980–84,
1985–94, 1998/99, 2001–03,
2004–08, 2009–14, 2018/19
2. Bundesliga
15. Hannover 96 30  1016  308  250  458 1385 1734 −349 1174 1,16 0 6 6 14 1964–74, 1975/76, 1985/86,
1987–89, 2002–16, 2017–19
2. Bundesliga
16. VfL Wolfsburg 24+  816  313  211  292 1236 1184 +52 1150 1,41 1 1 0 24 1997– Bundesliga
17. MSV Duisburg 28  948  296  259  393 1291 1520 −229 1147 1,21 0 5 5 19 1963–82, 1991/92, 1993–95,
1996–2000, 2005/06, 2007/08
3. Liga
18. Fortuna Düsseldorf 25  854  264  232  358 1245 1518 −273 1024 1,2 0 6 6 16 1966/67, 1971–87, 1989–92,
1995–97, 2012/13, 2018–20
2. Bundesliga
19. Karlsruher SC 24  812  241  230  341 1093 1408 −315 953 1,17 0 5 6 11 1963–68, 1975–77, 1980–83,
1984/85, 1987–98, 2007–09
2. Bundesliga
20. Eintracht Braunschweig 21  706  242  177  287 937 1086 −149 903 1,28 1 3 4 10 1963–73, 1974–80, 1981–85,
2013/14
3. Liga
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2 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

Bremen were 40yrs in the Bundesliga...

Otto Rehagel 

4 times Champions..

6 times Cup..

 

Schalke..just a blue irritant neighbour of BVB

6 times Champions

4 times Cup

 

All Time best ..League . # BvB...2nd.  # Bremen..3rd   # Schalke...7th.. Who are Schalke..??

 

. Verein Jahre Sp. S U N T+ T- Diff. Punkte Ø-Pkt. BL-
Titel
Auf Ab US Spielzeiten Liga 2021/22
 1. FC Bayern München 56+  1908  1144  415  349 4232 2077 +2155 3847 2,02 30 1 0 56 1965– Bundesliga
 2. Borussia Dortmund 54+  1832  825  464  543 3291 2573 +718 2939 1,6 5 1 1 45 1963–72, 1976– Bundesliga
 3. Werder Bremen 57  1934  800  486  648 3210 2835 +375 2886 1,49 4 1 2 40 1963–80, 1981–2021 2. Bundesliga
 4. Hamburger SV 55  1866  746  495  625 2937 2662 +275 2733 1,46 3 0 1 55 1963–2018 2. Bundesliga
 5. VfB Stuttgart 54+  1832  752  443  637 3025 2683 +342 2699 1,47 3 3 3 39 1963–75, 1977–2016, 2017–19,
2020–
Bundesliga
 6. Borussia
Mönchengladbach
53+  1806  734  472  600 3076 2617 +459 2674 1,48 5 3 2 34 1965–99, 2001–07, 2008– Bundesliga
 7. FC Schalke 04 53  1798  693  453  652 2607 2607  ±0 2532 1,41 0 3 4 30 1963–81, 1982/83, 1984–88,
1991–2021
2. Bundesliga
 8. Eintracht Frankfurt[A 1] 52+  1764  650  448  666 2775 2733 +42 2396 1,36 0 4 4 33 1963–96, 1998–2001, 2003/04,
2005–11, 2012–
Bundesliga
 9. 1. FC Köln 49+  1662  647  422  593 2702 2493 +209 2363 1,42 2 6 6 35 1963–98, 2000–02, 2003/04,
2005/06, 2008–12, 2014–18,
2019–
Bundesliga
10. Bayer 04 Leverkusen 42+  1432  616  389  427 2405 1911 +494 2237 1,56 0 1 0 42 1979– Bundesliga
11. 1. FC Kaiserslautern[A 2] 44  1492  575  372  545 2348 2344  +4 2094 1,4 2 2 3 33 1963–96, 1997–2006, 2010–12 3. Liga
12. Hertha BSC 38+  1284  461  326  497 1808 1962 −154 1709 1,33 0 6 6 13 1963–65, 1968–80, 1982/83,
1990/91, 1997–2010, 2011/12,
2013–
Bundesliga
13. VfL Bochum 34+  1160  356  306  498 1602 1887 −285 1374 1,18 0 6 6 22 1971–93, 1994/95, 1996–99,
2000/01, 2002–05, 2006–10,
2021–
Bundesliga
14. 1. FC Nürnberg 33  1118  344  286  488 1428 1794 −366 1318 1,18 1 8 9 9 1963–69, 1978/79, 1980–84,
1985–94, 1998/99, 2001–03,
2004–08, 2009–14, 2018/19
2. Bundesliga
15. Hannover 96 30  1016  308  250  458 1385 1734 −349 1174 1,16 0 6 6 14 1964–74, 1975/76, 1985/86,
1987–89, 2002–16, 2017–19
2. Bundesliga
16. VfL Wolfsburg 24+  816  313  211  292 1236 1184 +52 1150 1,41 1 1 0 24 1997– Bundesliga
17. MSV Duisburg 28  948  296  259  393 1291 1520 −229 1147 1,21 0 5 5 19 1963–82, 1991/92, 1993–95,
1996–2000, 2005/06, 2007/08
3. Liga
18. Fortuna Düsseldorf 25  854  264  232  358 1245 1518 −273 1024 1,2 0 6 6 16 1966/67, 1971–87, 1989–92,
1995–97, 2012/13, 2018–20
2. Bundesliga
19. Karlsruher SC 24  812  241  230  341 1093 1408 −315 953 1,17 0 5 6 11 1963–68, 1975–77, 1980–83,
1984/85, 1987–98, 2007–09
2. Bundesliga
20. Eintracht Braunschweig 21  706  242  177  287 937 1086 −149 903 1,28 1 3 4 10 1963–73, 1974–80, 1981–85,
2013/14
3. Liga

Really is quite strange then how much they seemed to get barely any mention compared to Schalke in the media, first I had seen about Bremen going down was you mentioning it earlier!

 

Seems like it has been coming though for Bremen after escaping relegation via the playoffs last season as well

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Just now, moore_94 said:

Really is quite strange then how much they seemed to get barely any mention compared to Schalke in the media, first I had seen about Bremen going down was you mentioning it earlier!

 

Seems like it has been coming though for Bremen after escaping relegation via the playoffs last season as well

Though an hard BVB fan, I had a soft Spot for Werder especially under Otto...  Great Football for a neutral...

Last 6+ years they have been struggling...( Politics & finances)

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Arguably Bochum's best and certainly most creative player Robert Zulj has disappointingly jumped ship and has missed out on crack at first division football for a load of $$$ out in Dubai.

13 goals and 15 assists last season, he leaves a big hole.

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4 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Arguably Bochum's best and certainly most creative player Robert Zulj has disappointingly jumped ship and has missed out on crack at first division football for a load of $$$ out in Dubai.

13 goals and 15 assists last season, he leaves a big hole.

Using a clause in his contract as well, sounds like Bochum won't even get anything for him either?

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