The I cant believe it’s not politics thread.

[urban.spaceman]

3 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said:

Ah yes but they’d have been longer and harder under kier. 😂 Anyway I’ve some good news for you, if haven’t heard. JRM has resigned. 

This is completely untrue and I've already explained this to you.

 

On 22/06/2022 at 11:54, urban.spaceman said:

Sadly it's in an old closed thread but I've been pretty explicit on here before about how ****ing horrifically they handled it. They weren't prepared when it's government policy to be ready for something so likely as a pandemic, they spaffed billions of taxpayer's money up the wall on dodgy PPE, did dodgy deals with mates, failed to support the entertainment industry and self employed, went into every lockdown weeks too late which meant they had to go on longer, released vulnerable elderly people into care homes allowing the virus to spread and didn't support the homes, refused to feed starving children until Marcus Rashford forced a u-turn, didn't close the ****ing borders until ELEVEN MONTHS into the pandemic, he mocked Starmer in October 2020 for calling for an emergency circuit breaker lockdown for 2 weeks and then when things got out of hand we had to lock down for a full month in the November - then he ****ed up Christmas AND we were locked down until April 2021.

 

I could go on, but the idea that they got the "big calls right" is what I took issue with mainly as it's utterly untrue and actually quite offensive. 

 

Whether Starmer would have lowered that figure is difficult to answer - but consider my last sentence in that paragraph about a circuit breaker lockdown and the following graph:

 

 

This government's failures are directly responsible for the high number of deaths. This isn't even about hindsight as their own policy states they should have been better prepared for it.

Glad JRM is gone, shame he'll not face any financial consequences for losing his job and he'll go on being a nasty waste of skin until the next Tory **** calls him up.

[Voll Blau]

23 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Starmer needs to grow a pair and start backing the project to rejoin the EU... that's if the Country wants growth! growth! growth!!

Nope. Daftest thing he could do until he's actually in Downing Street, should he get there. Our electoral system means he needs to keep his gob firmly shut for now.

[Daggers]

14 minutes ago, foxes1988 said:

This isn't the US.  Generally voters here dont care what religion you belong to.

They ought to - we've been subjected to the weird, deranged beliefs of a bunch of Catholic extremists for a number of years.

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, foxes1988 said:

Seems quite superficial to be honest.  The all claim to be religious yet their churches are empty.

Depends on where you are over there, I think.

 

Again, it just needs enough fundies to vote to be able to craft policy that messes with everyone else. Last few years being a prime example.

 

2 minutes ago, Daggers said:

They ought to - we've been subjected to the weird, deranged beliefs of a bunch of Catholic extremists for a number of years.

What's this referring to, out of interest?

[FoyleFox]

Brandon Lewis and Wendy Morton also resign.

[urban.spaceman]

Just now, FoyleFox said:

Brandon Lewis and Wendy Morton also resign.

again??

[Daggers]

3 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

What's this referring to, out of interest?

Coffey, Dorries and Rees-Mogg are all pro life/anti gay Catholic fruitcake extremists.

Johnson converted.

 

There are others.

 

For me, the most welcome aspect of Sunak taking over is that government will be purged of these cranks.

[Daggers]

Esther McVey was also a leading light, but I can't find the interview where her bigotry was laid bare

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Daggers said:

Coffey, Dorries and Rees-Mogg are all pro life/anti gay Catholic fruitcake extremists.

Johnson converted.

 

There are others.

 

For me, the most welcome aspect of Sunak taking over is that government will be purged of these cranks.

Ah right, now I get you.

 

Thankfully such cranks don't have as much of a toehold in terms of policymaking as they do in other places, but yes, it's good that they're gone and they won't be getting any more power for the foreseeable future.

[Guest Electric Yetis]

Such integrity.

[Brizzle Fox]

1 minute ago, Rain King said:

Such integrity.

Oh jeez. Please say it's not true

[Bellend Sebastian]

Just now, Brizzle Fox said:

Oh jeez. Please say it's not true

Called Ken Clarke a 'traitor' yesterday if his tweet is to be believed. Unhinged

[Brizzle Fox]

38 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

As an atheist this is not exactly inspiring. Zero representation for 38% of the country.

 

 

 

Beautiful sentiment. Just a shame that this absolute chancer stole this word for word...shameless indeed.

 

 

[Daggers]

4 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Ah right, now I get you.

 

Thankfully such cranks don't have as much of a toehold in terms of policymaking as they do in other places, but yes, it's good that they're gone and they won't be getting any more power for the foreseeable future.

Hunt is still going to be there. He is a staunch magic sky pixie man, goes to communion twice a week, and believes in banning abortion.

[Brizzle Fox]

1 minute ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

Called Ken Clarke a 'traitor' yesterday if his tweet is to be believed. Unhinged

She's mad as a box of frogs but worse than this dangerous. Scary 

[Dunge]

1 minute ago, Brizzle Fox said:

Oh jeez. Please say it's not true

She should be kicked out of the party, not brought back into government. She is actually horrible.

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

Called Ken Clarke a 'traitor' yesterday if his tweet is to be believed. Unhinged

I think that was a parody account 

[kenny]

6 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Hunt is still going to be there. He is a staunch magic sky pixie man, goes to communion twice a week, and believes in banning abortion.

Does he believe in banning abortion?

 

I thought he wanted to reduce the limit to 12 weeks but not ban it altogether?

[Bellend Sebastian]

5 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I think that was a parody account 

Oof, you're correct.

 

Sign of the times that I wasn't shocked enough to assume it was. Unhelpful of Twitter to promote accounts I'm not following in that way though

[FLAN]

54 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Be interesting to see what his new cabinet looks like, Truss' was just her mates and supporters. Get Coffey gone, JRM already gone. I'd keep Ben Wallace, Kemi, Hunt and Tom T - add in Penny Mourdant & Oliver Dowden. The rest are meh.

Dowden was one of Johnson’s biggest apologists for a long time. Real creep 

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Dowden was one of Johnson’s biggest apologists for a long time. Real creep 

true, but after the by election losses in the spring, dowden (as party chair) resigned and mentioned johnson's misdemeanors in his letter. 

[Guest Electric Yetis]

Raab and Shapps 🙄

[st albans fox]

Sunak has to include some right wingers 

 

we know how difficult that can be 

 

if he didn’t choose braverman, which nut job would you suggest ??

[kenny]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Sunak has to include some right wingers 

 

we know how difficult that can be 

 

if he didn’t choose braverman, which nut job would you suggest ??

Badenoch will be in there somewhere.

[st albans fox]

Just now, kenny said:

Badenoch will be in there somewhere.

she will but i'm not sure she quite counts as a nut job RW that satisfies that side of the party