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[Stadt]

Just now, Stadt said:

Not even finished listening to it all but I'm fuming. I can't even articulate all my thoughts properly. 

It's really no wonder where in such a mess when we employe(d) people like that. Retrograde tosser that seems to be more of a retardant to youth prospects' success.

 

Hard to compete at PL level? What about when we were in it for 10 years? You can't have it both ways that it's hard to stay up as a newly promoted team when we went down as an incumbent PL side so easily.

 

Experience vs youth, 300 apps vs 1. Nobody is saying play 15 year olds as they're the answer but give the 18, 19, 20 year olds an opportunity. They're not at the level, you have to give them the opportunity at first. It's not as if Alves could have really performed worse than Ayew and Reid, then there;s the value judgement of who will be the better player in 1, 2, 3 years time as Alves get better and the others get worse. Young players an investment, not just an instant retune but sometimes they're better than the current players too.

 

There's too much money. We spend more than about half the league! We spend too much if anything.

 

Having too small a training ground is the only thing we did wrong. Which conveniently was rectified anyway, nothing else to see?

 

Rudkin gets the right people around him. He ascribes a lot of the success to Rudkin and then disperse the blame on nameless departments and other people. Rudkin is the line manager for these people, yet he isn't accountable.

 

Nyoni was good business. We never sold him, we're still waiting on the tribunal?

 

Nelson's attitude on/off the pitch wasn't there. His loans have all been fine, feedback from the fans of those clubs was good.

 

Young players aren''t at the right physical level. But what about technically? Is Yamal not ready? Is Dibling not ready? Are won't preparing them correctly? They also develop with minuted and experience.

 

I could go on and on, , "well I've been in the game, what do you know" is basically his approach and we keep getting things wrong in direct comparison to similar clubs. Club mouthpiece and it's troubling that his essentially anti-development view is widespread.

Simultaneously we can't compete with Man City but we are where we are? What if they thought like that? They would have given up years ago. 

[BenTheFox]

2 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Not even finished listening to it all but I'm fuming. I can't even articulate all my thoughts properly. 

It's really no wonder where in such a mess when we employe(d) people like that. Retrograde tosser that seems to be more of a retardant to youth prospects' success.

 

Hard to compete at PL level? What about when we were in it for 10 years? You can't have it both ways that it's hard to stay up as a newly promoted team when we went down as an incumbent PL side so easily.

 

Experience vs youth, 300 apps vs 1. Nobody is saying play 15 year olds as they're the answer but give the 18, 19, 20 year olds an opportunity. They're not at the level, you have to give them the opportunity at first. It's not as if Alves could have really performed worse than Ayew and Reid, then there;s the value judgement of who will be the better player in 1, 2, 3 years time as Alves get better and the others get worse. Young players an investment, not just an instant retune but sometimes they're better than the current players too.

 

There's too much money. We spend more than about half the league! We spend too much if anything.

 

Having too small a training ground is the only thing we did wrong. Which conveniently was rectified anyway, nothing else to see?

 

Rudkin gets the right people around him. He ascribes a lot of the success to Rudkin and then disperse the blame on nameless departments and other people. Rudkin is the line manager for these people, yet he isn't accountable.

 

Nyoni was good business. We never sold him, we're still waiting on the tribunal?

 

Nelson's attitude on/off the pitch wasn't there. His loans have all been fine, feedback from the fans of those clubs was good.

 

Young players aren''t at the right physical level. But what about technically? Is Yamal not ready? Is Dibling not ready? Are won't preparing them correctly? They also develop with minuted and experience.

 

I could go on and on, , "well I've been in the game, what do you know" is basically his approach and we keep getting things wrong in direct comparison to similar clubs. Club mouthpiece and it's troubling that his essentially anti-development view is widespread.

And we're not asking to flood a whole team of under 21 academy players at premier league or championship level. It was a complete strawman if ever I've seen one.

 

All we're asking for is to see a clear pathway for 3 or 4 academy players to be bedded into the first team squad. 

[lukedlcfc22]

Just woke up after taking a shot every time he said "so called". Listened on Sunday night 

[ajthefox]

2 hours ago, teblin said:

Yep I thought that.

 

Though I also think he's taller that 5ft 9 like it says on some searches.

Club website says 5'10.

 

 

[ajthefox]

It was an interesting listen but you've got to take it with a spoonful of salt when he's been so involved and still is.

 

I thought it was telling he referred numerous times to people at some level not being very good, but made no reference to the fact that Rudkin is ultimately responsible for them being in position and therefore should be taking the flack accordingly.

Seemed pretty disparaging about several players as well, which did come off a little bitter.

[Stadt]

It was very self aggrandising. He was big and physical and every player that might not make it isn’t physical. Archaic thinking.

 

Probably boring that I keep saying it but if we had Lamal on our books we’d loan him to  Peterborough at 18.

[Stadt]

If I was a parent of an academy player I’d be mortified listening to that. Essentially a former youth coach pretty much admitting young players shouldn’t play for the first team - it’s astonishing. 
 

They’re never ready, mentally, tactically, physically if you think age is such a big barrier. If you can’t tell it’s properly pissed me off.

Edited 15 April by Stadt

[teblin]

1 hour ago, ajthefox said:

Club website says 5'10.

 

 

Yeah saw that, but pictures of him next to mads puts him at a similar height.

[filbertway]

10 minutes ago, Stadt said:

If I was a parent of an academy player I’d be mortified listening to that. Essentially a former youth coach pretty much admitting young layers shouldn’t play for the first team - it’s astonishing. 
 

They’re never ready, mentally, tactically, physically if you think age is such a big barrier. If you can’t tell it’s properly pissed me off.

It's like you've reached into my brain and pulled out of thoughts and reaction in the form of somewhat coherent posts.

 

It's nothing personal against the man himself, but it's absolutely terrible that people of his mindset are involved/have been involved in the club. Not an ounce of progressive thinking in him, in terms of football. Very much feels in line with the general philosophy of the club.

[James_lcfc]

18 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Probably boring that I keep saying it but if we had Lamal on our books we’d loan him to  Peterborough at 18.

He's League 1/2 level mate. Not physically, mentally or socially ready for so-called 'Premier League football' yet.

 

You fans are dreamers.

[Langston]

If I had Lamal or a man with 300 appearances under his belt.. I'm going with the 300 appearances

[Dan]

I really hope Huth doesn't think like him.

[Stadt]

22 minutes ago, James_lcfc said:

He's League 1/2 level mate. Not physically, mentally or socially ready for so-called 'Premier League football' yet.

 

You fans are dreamers.

We’ve got to remember who we are so we should just lose anybody good to a paltry tribunal free.

 

The ‘this is us’ argument followed to its logical conclusion means we should basically fold - the crux of it is we’ll never develop beyond our historical mean despite completing most inspirational footballing fairytale ever ourselves 

Edited 15 April by Stadt

[filbertway]

Even Rodgers had this mindset to a degree.

 

In cup games he would often choose to play the biggest/oldest players from the dev squad rather than the most talented players.

[Noahfence]

11 minutes ago, Stadt said:

If I was a parent of an academy player I’d be mortified listening to that. Essentially a former youth coach pretty much admitting young players shouldn’t play for the first team - it’s astonishing. 
 

They’re never ready, mentally, tactically, physically if you think age is such a big barrier. If you can’t tell it’s properly pissed me off.

Considering he’s someone who’s worked in the youth set up I found it odd how the suggestion of some academy lads getting a chance in the senior side seemed to bother him? I really didn’t like the way he talked about them. So bizarre. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

“So called”

 

So called Premier League - was the best. 
 

 

[Noahfence]

2 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Even Rodgers had this mindset to a degree.

 

In cup games he would often choose to play the biggest/oldest players from the dev squad rather than the most talented players.

Arjan Raikhy comes to mind. Only picked last season because he was physically big and older. Now can’t even get in the Tamworth squad.  

Edited 15 April by Noahfence

[Stadt]

1 minute ago, Noahfence said:

Considering he’s someone who’s worked in the youth set up I found it odd how the suggestion of some academy lads getting a chance in the senior side seemed to bother him? I really didn’t like the way he talked about them. So bizarre. 

Barnes, KDH, Choudhury - coached by him (aged 12, completely formative I’m sure) at the so-called level 

 

Alves, Braybrooke, Nelson who he’s had far less time with, questionable level-reachers 

[filbertway]

1 minute ago, Noahfence said:

Arjan Raikhy comes to mind. Only picked last season because he was physically big and older. Now can’t even get in the Tamworth squad.  

Yep, literally the example that came to my mind as well haha

 

 

[Noahfence]

Just now, filbertway said:

Yep, literally the example that came to my mind as well haha

 

 

Lewis Brunt used to get picked under Rodgers in cup games if I remember correctly? Another one who was older & stronger.
 

Funnily both him and Raikhy were ex Villa youth. 

[RoboFox]

Cult of KPFC. 

 

Seems to be a trend amongst people who have been involved at the club. A culture of reverance and a fear of ostracization should they dare question our venerated leaders. 

And people wonder why there's no accountability.

 

Edited 15 April by RoboFox

[James_lcfc]

11 minutes ago, Noahfence said:

Arjan Raikhy comes to mind. Only picked last season because he was physically big and older. Now can’t even get in the Tamworth squad.  

Did he play the first half against Bournemouth last year?

 

I remember watching and being genuinely worried that he was the best of the bunch from the academy.

 

Couldn't believe how bad he looked.

[Noahfence]

9 minutes ago, James_lcfc said:

Did he play the first half against Bournemouth last year?

 

I remember watching and being genuinely worried that he was the best of the bunch from the academy.

 

Couldn't believe how bad he looked.

He did and to be fair he put himself about and got stuck in but technically was way off it. He’s now not making the squad for Tamworth in the national league. 
 

You have to wonder what conversations went on in him being called up. 

[James_lcfc]

4 minutes ago, Noahfence said:

 

You have to wonder what conversations went on in him being called up. 

He was physically and mentally ready.

 

Not ready technically, but why worry about that!

[Gamble92]

32 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Even Rodgers had this mindset to a degree.

 

In cup games he would often choose to play the biggest/oldest players from the dev squad rather than the most talented players.

Least we got to see him throw Lewis Brunt in against our biggest rivals away.