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18 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

It was out of context, give it a watch! He’s clearly got some financial interests in AGI not being reached soon so he can milk this cow even more

Fair enough, I'll have to add the verge to the list of click baiters! Win win for Nvidia for the near future whatever happens!

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33 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

It was out of context, give it a watch! He’s clearly got some financial interests in AGI not being reached soon so he can milk this cow even more

Watched the AGI section now and onto the future of coding, this guy makes very little sense. He claims there will be more coders now, not less, so people won't need to worry about job loss. We've already seen/seeing the job losses. Then he says we will have 1bn coders, any one can code - so how will anyone be paid for that then? He then says carpenters will be architects, so what job do the architects do then? Honestly makes zero sense to me.

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Posted
10 hours ago, danny. said:

Fair enough, I'll have to add the verge to the list of click baiters! Win win for Nvidia for the near future whatever happens!

Likened to selling shovels in a gold rush

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Took my mum to visit my new grandson yesterday. My son took a photo of us and told AI to make us look like Superheros. 

 

Obviously on the results, i've sent in my application to The Boys, in case they need a new starlight Lol

 

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On 01/03/2026 at 10:32, danny. said:

The mental health angle is really interesting, I think the same principal applied with social media too - we invented it for "good" but the it caused massive mental health problems for people.

I've had the same chat about a weird "brain-stretching" effect using AI extensively with a few colleagues now, I think that it might be something that we end up studying in the future if it becomes widespread. It's obviously really easy to be super productive now using agents, doing 5-10x the amount of work you could without, but it seems to leave a really weird feeling which I can only describe as a feeling of being not that tired but simultaneously really burnt out with my brain feeling like it's been tugged in 10 directions all day. Which isn't far from the truth. Homo sapiens evolved to do 1-2 tasks at once and a relatively small amount in a day, and then we invented machines and then computers which let us do much more. Now we're working on multiple large projects and dozens of smaller tasks in one day which still takes up brain space and has cognitive cost, which I'm not sure our brains are liking at all.

This is what I was trying to talk about 

 

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Just watching a YouTube video with people in it. Checked the comments and googled and found it was AI. I wouldn't have guessed, honestly it's a bit chilling that the technology is too good to tell apart from real life now.

 

I just don't see how the legal system, administrstion/beaurocratic systems etc. will be able to cope with it really. What's stopping someone just manufacturing evidence to frame people or manufacturing alibis with this stuff, or politicians manufacturing reasons to discredit their opponents, push through legislation or reasons to go to war?

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34 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Just watching a YouTube video with people in it. Checked the comments and googled and found it was AI. I wouldn't have guessed, honestly it's a bit chilling that the technology is too good to tell apart from real life now.

 

I just don't see how the legal system, administrstion/beaurocratic systems etc. will be able to cope with it really. What's stopping someone just manufacturing evidence to frame people or manufacturing alibis with this stuff, or politicians manufacturing reasons to discredit their opponents, push through legislation or reasons to go to war?

it's also going to make feasible denial for many crimes an absolute minefield.

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44 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Just watching a YouTube video with people in it. Checked the comments and googled and found it was AI. I wouldn't have guessed, honestly it's a bit chilling that the technology is too good to tell apart from real life now.

 

I just don't see how the legal system, administrstion/beaurocratic systems etc. will be able to cope with it really. What's stopping someone just manufacturing evidence to frame people or manufacturing alibis with this stuff, or politicians manufacturing reasons to discredit their opponents, push through legislation or reasons to go to war?

 

10 minutes ago, danny. said:

it's also going to make feasible denial for many crimes an absolute minefield.

I think there's only two ways things can really end up on this topic. 

 

Either someone somehow develops a system to detect AI digital output with accuracy as close to perfect as possible that can be applied in every necessary situation, or all such digital evidence will end up being seen as unusable or inadmissible as evidence for anything, with all the consequences that entails. 

 

Seems like the debate about "Correction" in The Capture is only the start of it. 

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1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

 

I think there's only two ways things can really end up on this topic. 

 

Either someone somehow develops a system to detect AI digital output with accuracy as close to perfect as possible that can be applied in every necessary situation, or all such digital evidence will end up being seen as unusable or inadmissible as evidence for anything, with all the consequences that entails. 

 

Seems like the debate about "Correction" in The Capture is only the start of it. 

It would be pretty easy to train a model on that data to bypass it - then it's an arms race that eventually would be won by AI as it would merge into non-AI footage.

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10 minutes ago, danny. said:

It would be pretty easy to train a model on that data to bypass it - then it's an arms race that eventually would be won by AI as it would merge into non-AI footage.

If that's true, then the second outcome given above appears inevitable.

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Posted
25 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Fairly clear there needs to be some form of globally agreed structures/laws to govern ai. Also fairly clear there's no chance, particularly with trump in the white house. 

Which countries are pushing to govern this? 

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We used to make legal decisions without photographic or video evidence. A lot of which, even now, is inadmissible.

 

The camera never lies must be the most inaccurate saying ever.

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Worrying.

 

https://spacedaily.com/k-writing-a-single-100-word-email-with-chatgpt-consumes-approximately-the-volume-of-a-standard-bottle-of-water-the-global-infrastructure-processing-ai-queries-is-projected-to-use-the-equivalent-of-hal/

 

Highlights:

 

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Writing a single 100-word email with ChatGPT consumes approximately the volume of a standard bottle of water. The figure for a single email comes from a 2025 peer-reviewed paper in Communications of the ACM by Pengfei Li, Shaolei Ren, and colleagues at the University of California, Riverside.

 

The Li and Ren paper projects that global AI demand will require somewhere between 4.2 and 6.6 billion cubic metres of water withdrawal annually by 2027. The lower estimate is approximately the total annual water withdrawal of four Denmarks. The higher estimate approaches half the total annual water withdrawal of the entire United Kingdom. Both estimates assume current trajectories of AI workload growth and current water-efficiency practices. Neither estimate accounts for the possibility that AI demand continues to grow faster than the modelled trajectory.

 

Google’s most recent Environmental Report, covering the 2024 financial year, sets out the water consumption of the company’s global operations in detail. The combined figure for 2024 was approximately 8.1 billion gallons, of which approximately 95 per cent was used at data centres. The 2024 figure was an 8 per cent increase on 2023. The 2023 figure had been a 17 per cent increase on 2022. The 2022 figure had been a 20 per cent increase on 2021. The cumulative result is that Google’s water consumption nearly doubled between 2021 and 2024, with the company itself naming AI workload growth as the primary driver in successive environmental reports.

 

Meta consumed approximately 813 million gallons globally in 2023, with 95 per cent of that volume used at data centres. 

 

Global freshwater scarcity is increasing on every measured trajectory. Approximately one-quarter of the world’s population, by United Nations projections, will face severe water stress by 2030.

 

 

 

Posted
22 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

How does Ai require water ?

Cooling of the data centres we are building everywhere.

 

Someone cleverer than me will explain why fresh water rather than sea water cannot be used. Probably cost.

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5 minutes ago, kenny said:

Cooling of the data centres we are building everywhere.

 

Someone cleverer than me will explain why fresh water rather than sea water cannot be used. Probably cost.

Technical issues leading directly to cost issues. Salt water corrodes practically every metallic system it's part of over time. 

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51 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

How does Ai require water ?

Data centres suck up vast amounts of energy from the grid to power racks and racks of GPUs/servers, the vast majority of that energy is dissipated as heat. Water cooling is used to cool the servers. 
 

Current estimates say that by 2030 data centres will absorb ~1,000 terawatts of electricity globally. That is roughly double the power consumption of the nation of France. 
 

AI Water use is estimated to be ~700-1,300 billion litres per year by 2030, is currently half that. Enough water to sustain a billion or so people every year. 
 

But hey, it makes funny pictures, and will only make (mostly) younger people unemployed? Can’t be that bad? 

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