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Kinowe Soorie

Obsolete footballing positions?

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It's not too different to how it was played back in the day pre-60s

 

 

Formations in football – the development from 1-1-8 to 3-5-2

 

Move the Centre half back and you're almost there.

 

Wingers disappeared after Alf Ramsey and the '66 World Cup but seem to be back in favour although with a much more defensive hat on.

 

The big difference is players are much more multi-skilled to fit into different formations.

 

 

 

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The CAM position seems to becoming obsolete. It's a luxury few tactical systems can afford and the only defenses that pure CAMs would be effective against would naturally sit too deep for it to work and against a defence with a high line, the ST-CAM-CM column would be too compact to allow the necessary space for a CAM to operate in.

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3 hours ago, davieG said:

It's not too different to how it was played back in the day pre-60s

 

 

Formations in football – the development from 1-1-8 to 3-5-2

 

Move the Centre half back and you're almost there.

 

Wingers disappeared after Alf Ramsey and the '66 World Cup but seem to be back in favour although with a much more defensive hat on.

 

The big difference is players are much more multi-skilled to fit into different formations.

 

 

 

I started my playing days at primary school at half-half then move to right-back before a longish career between the sticks.

 

Were they trying to tell me something, I've often wondered?

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Not positions but maybe styles of players, especially at the top level

 

More and more teams only want ball playing goalkeepers and centre backs

 

Full backs now can’t only be for defending, they need to be able to contribute going forward

 

I don’t think you are ever likely to see an established Premier League team always setting up like we did in the title winning season, maybe for a one off against the likes of Man City, but their main game plan across a full season won’t be like that

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Some are cyclical. Things like inside left sounded really old hat when I was a kid but they've come back in other evolved guises. The two 'wingers' in a 4-3-3 usually cut inside so often they're more like inside lefts/rights as opposed to out and out wingers.

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On 20/08/2023 at 14:15, davieG said:

It's not too different to how it was played back in the day pre-60s

 

 

Formations in football – the development from 1-1-8 to 3-5-2

 

Move the Centre half back and you're almost there.

 

Wingers disappeared after Alf Ramsey and the '66 World Cup but seem to be back in favour although with a much more defensive hat on.

 

The big difference is players are much more multi-skilled to fit into different formations.

 

 

 

 

No such thing as new ideas, everything is always a rehash. How many times you seen flairs come back in your lifetime davie? ;)

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44 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

No such thing as new ideas, everything is always a rehash. How many times you seen flairs come back in your lifetime davie? ;)

Too many.

 

If I'd have kept all my old clothes I wouldn't need to buy new ones for every new fashion.

 

As an 18yr I took some suit trouser to a tailor to get them reduced from straight to 14" bottoms - Italian suits were in vogue. I'm now wear similar stuff lol

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3 minutes ago, Kinowe Soorie said:

Will we ever see, an out and out target man again?

They could get by now with the emphasis on wingers and getting crosses as well as angled pass backs into the box.

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