Concerns about the direction of the club

[Mickyblueeyes]

24 minutes ago, SK3Blue said:

Leaders? It’s a struggle to find them at most clubs, not just ours. Overcoached robots now. 

The way our team plays you’d argue they are under coached!

[Lambert09]

On 08/07/2024 at 10:29, Lambert09 said:

Im not keen on negativity in pre-season, particularly not when we have just been promoted but I have some thoughts that I just can’t seem to shake off.

 

My main concern is that the club is undoing a lot of excellent work to get us back where we belong.

 

Now I understand that we are in an unusual position with psr and i’m not going to get into that. This post isn’t about a points deduction, it isn’t about the manager and it’s not about having to sell our best player 

 

The concern is that we’ve not seemed to have learnt anything from all of this. 

 

Relegation for many was actually a bit of a relief. It granted us the ability for a big reset. Yes we didn’t manage to get rid of he who shall not be named, but we did clear out those that didn’t want to be here ( for the most part).

 

We were able to fully refresh the squad with players that had something to prove and brought in an excellent coach with new ideas and a no nonsense attitude. 

 

The owner gave the fans what they wanted and went back to King Power on the shirt. A sign that they realised we didn’t want a dirty sponsor for financial gain. 

 

The scouting network seemed to focus on young upcoming stars, from leagues where we could strike a bargain, who would have upward selling potential… a return to the dortmund model.

 

The siege mentality came back and a bit of togetherness was found (yeah we were all surprised that good atmospheres were possible again). I guess champions league football wasn’t needed for that. 

 

But then now that we’ve been promoted, I feel like we are back making the same mistakes we did before. 

 

Long contracts for players who may not be good enough and have no resale value. A focus back on domestic talent.  a sheer disregard for the fans (season cards, shirt price increases, ticket price hike). Ignoring the fan groups. A competition open only to uk or thai fans. (yeah that’s going to annoy the guy in canada who’s spent his life following the club, might be a personal one but why are thai fans more important than me?)

 

Then of course the shirt sponsor. 

 

 Now I know we have to play the game that everyone’s playing. But the more this stuff drags on, the more I and many others feel pushed away and question if it’s even a game we want to be part of any more. Where’s the line as a fan? leicester completed football, there’s not that one thing I need to see before we die, so as fans of a club like ours, be careful how hard you push us to the side.

 

I’m sure i’m dramatic and the optimists will point out why all the things make sense and there’s always going to be some logic to these things. The club are trying to be successful, I know that. 

 

I just think that we are moving away from what just worked and the old mistakes are creeping back in (or just never left). Am I the only one getting the sense that the club feel vindicated and that they are free to continue as they did before?  

 

I just don’t feel that the values of the fans are a thought and in what will be the toughest season in a very long time, possibly our history, we could have used a siege mentality. A bit of good will towards the fans would have gone a long way in creating that all so needed 12th man! 

Of all the times I had to be right about something FFS 

[Lambert09]

On 08/07/2024 at 10:34, Foxes with Sprit said:

Just relax, enjoy the ride.

hahahaha it was like a trip to disney 

[The Fosse Way]

Last night was evidence you won’t get an angry reaction if most of the angry people have stayed at home.

[SemperEadem]

Just now, The Fosse Way said:

Last night was evidence you won’t get an angry reaction if most of the angry people have stayed at home.

But this in itself I think gives the whole thing a free pass.

[Ricey]

I think it's a combination of an aging fanbase, the title and FA Cup win, KP's 'generosity' and, for some reason, a real lack of critical thinking within a lot of our fans.

 

So many fans that sit around me only have thoughts and feelings on what is in front of them at that precise moment. They don't look any deeper. They don't look at the DoF or the CEO or the Owner. They don't look at other clubs. It's Daka's fault, now it's the Manager's fault, now it's Justin's fault....never a thought given to why this squad is so bad and why we keep hiring horrific managers.

 

The problem is, how do we change that? The level of anger has dropped as things have got much worse. Unfortunately I think the only mass protest that is going to be possible is one that taps into that apathy.

Edited 8 April by Ricey

[Ricey]

2 minutes ago, The Fosse Way said:

Last night was evidence you won’t get an angry reaction if most of the angry people have stayed at home.

I agree, but then in theory all of the angry people were in the stadium for the Arsenal match and yet it was only UFS who sang.

[Foxdiamond]

Surely RvN and Rudkin would have gone at any other club well before now

[Mike Oxlong]

January 26th should be designated a public holiday in Leicester next year to commemorate the anniversary of the date when we last scored a goal in the league 

[Iwebema]

1 hour ago, Ricey said:

The problem is, how do we change that?

Agree with your whole post, on this bit specifically, I think it will just take time.

 

We won the championship last season, so success in the minds of the people you mention was only a year ago.

 

A mid table (or worse) championship season will turn the tables I think. I'd mentioned before and it complements your view, a large portion of the fan base need to be spoon fed everything, they need the sports media to tell them how to feel, this is the first year where the ownership and Rudkin etc. have had criticism from the media rather than just fans, they will come on board soon enough..unfortunately it might be too late by then

Edited 8 April by Iwebema

[RoboFox]

They're not that passive. 

 

Many of them can muster the energy to clap our players and manager off after being pumped for the eighth game in a row at home without scoring a goal. Some of them can summon the fortitude for a huff and a puff about groups like UFS who dare to try and create a bit of atmosphere in the ground.  

 

And most of this lot won't have a clue who Rudkin is or have any perception of where the football club is headed. They probably don't even care, they're just zombies who keep turning up because it's habitual. 

 

This image basically sums it up. 

 

 

[Leicester_Loyal]

3 hours ago, Ricey said:

I think it's a combination of an aging fanbase, the title and FA Cup win, KP's 'generosity' and, for some reason, a real lack of critical thinking within a lot of our fans.

 

So many fans that sit around me only have thoughts and feelings on what is in front of them at that precise moment. They don't look any deeper. They don't look at the DoF or the CEO or the Owner. They don't look at other clubs. It's Daka's fault, now it's the Manager's fault, now it's Justin's fault....never a thought given to why this squad is so bad and why we keep hiring horrific managers.

 

The problem is, how do we change that? The level of anger has dropped as things have got much worse. Unfortunately I think the only mass protest that is going to be possible is one that taps into that apathy.

As we go crap, these types of fans will disappear I think. We probably need a good few years in the wilderness to get the passionate fans back. The only other problem is the price of football though, it's expensive now, so people follow non league or don't bother going at all. Will this change and it becomes cheaper after a few years in the Championship?

[sdb]

Do we boycot all remaining games bar one, and go absolutely toxic at that match?

[SouthStandUpperTier]

1 minute ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

As we go crap, these types of fans will disappear I think.

I disagree. Those fans will still go no matter how incompetent the club becomes or how far we fall.

 

If Top came round to their house and took a dump on their living room rug they'd give him a round of applause.

[The Year Of The Fox]

2 minutes ago, sdb said:

Do we boycot all remaining games bar one, and go absolutely toxic at that match?

It’s time UFS made a stand 

[Leicester_Loyal]

2 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

I disagree. Those fans will still go no matter how incompetent the club becomes or how far we fall.

 

If Top came round to their house and took a dump on their living room rug they'd give him a round of applause.

Not sure, look at Cov, full of lads, not many families and women during their last few years. Everton mostly the same. As you get crap it becomes all about the day out and the social aspect of it.

[SouthStandUpperTier]

1 minute ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

As you get crap it becomes all about the day out and the social aspect of it.

Which is precisely what appeals to these fans. It's a chance to get out of the house and have natter with the like-minded fans around you. What goes on on the pitch is barely relevant to them.

[Leicester_Loyal]

2 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Which is precisely what appeals to these fans. It's a chance to get out of the house and have natter with the like-minded fans around you. What goes on on the pitch is barely relevant to them.

I hope you're wrong. Guess we'll find out in the next couple of years.

[FoxesBraun]

5 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Which is precisely what appeals to these fans. It's a chance to get out of the house and have natter with the like-minded fans around you. What goes on on the pitch is barely relevant to them.

This is probably the biggest issue unfortunately. 
 

Not trying to tell people how to live their lives but surely there’s other ways of doing that. Get together at the pub to watch it, or round each other’s house or go for a meal or a walk with your mates instead if you don’t care about what happens on the pitch ?

There’s ways of socialising with people other than paying money into King Power pockets every week.

 

As long as they’ve got income coming in they’re not gonna be bothered about the state of the club. If we cut off their main supply of revenue then they might actually sweat and make some sort of change.

 

Unfortunately there’s a very large % of our fans that won’t change their ways. 

[lcfc278]

1 minute ago, FoxesBraun said:

This is probably the biggest issue unfortunately. 
 

Not trying to tell people how to live their lives but surely there’s other ways of doing that. Get together at the pub to watch it, or round each other’s house or go for a meal or a walk with your mates instead if you don’t care about what happens on the pitch ?

There’s ways of socialising with people other than paying money into King Power pockets every week.

 

As long as they’ve got income coming in they’re not gonna be bothered about the state of the club. If we cut off their main supply of revenue then they might actually sweat and make some sort of change.

 

Unfortunately there’s a very large % of our fans that won’t change their ways. 

The fact of the matter is that in football, for the team you grow up supporting, no matter the performances on the pitch, how the club's being run or who owns it, they are your club and you love and support that team until the day you die. It's very hard telling fans that have followed the club for X number of years that the way to help the club is by stopping going down to watch them.

 

 

 

[purpleronnie]

1 minute ago, lcfc278 said:

The fact of the matter is that in football, for the team you grow up supporting, no matter the performances on the pitch, how the club's being run or who owns it, they are your club and you love and support that team until the day you die. It's very hard telling fans that have followed the club for X number of years that the way to help the club is by stopping going down to watch them.

 

 

 

True, some people are very selfish and don't care (or see)  the bigger picture.

[SouthStandUpperTier]

5 minutes ago, lcfc278 said:

The fact of the matter is that in football, for the team you grow up supporting, no matter the performances on the pitch, how the club's being run or who owns it, they are your club and you love and support that team until the day you die. It's very hard telling fans that have followed the club for X number of years that the way to help the club is by stopping going down to watch them.

 

 

 

I'm all for loyalty amongst fans. But the club has to meet us halfway. By continuing to go at the moment all we are doing is enabling the current set-up, particularly at board level, to think that everything is just fine and that they can carry on taking the piss out of their own fan base.

 

Edited 8 April by SouthStandUpperTier

[SemperEadem]

1 hour ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

It’s time UFS made a stand 

I think people get mixed up on how big UFS actually is.

[CosbehFox]

2 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

I think people get mixed up on how big UFS actually is.

A lot happy for a sacrifice as well. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

I think people get mixed up on how big UFS actually is.

Maybe I am numbers wise (I don’t think I wm

But without your vocal support it’ll sound even worse than last night