Jattdogg Posted 31 October 2024 Posted 31 October 2024 The only garbage I've seen lately is our play on the pitch. Zinggggg 2
MPH Posted 31 October 2024 Posted 31 October 2024 (edited) So I’m beginning to think that it’s looking a bit grim for the Dems. For a few reasons. This poll was done by ABC news. Network and they are rated as left leaning. News networks seem to produce polls that somewhat flatter their political preferences. Also most polls are not able to reach the rural support that is overwhelmingly right leaning. Especially in the swing states. With that in mind, ABC has Trump up 62-31 in the swing states. That’s very significant. It must be said that the 3 Dem states have a noticeably smaller leader than in 2020 too and considering that both in 2016 and 2020 Trump has had more votes than the polling suggested ( because of the rural votes) then I see it as looming very grim for the Dems. Edited 31 October 2024 by MPH
leicsmac Posted 31 October 2024 Author Posted 31 October 2024 7 minutes ago, MPH said: So I’m beginning to think that it’s looking a bit grim for the Dems. For a few reasons. This poll was done by ABC news. Network and they are rated as left leaning. News networks seem to produce polls that somewhat flatter their political preferences. Also most polls are not able to reach the rural support that is overwhelmingly right leaning. Especially in the swing states. With that in mind, ABC has Trump up 62-31 in the swing states. That’s very significant. It must be said that the 3 Dem states have a noticeably smaller leader than in 2020 too and considering that both in 2016 and 2020 Trump has had more votes than the polling suggested ( because of the rural votes) then I see it as looming very grim for the Dems. This has been analysed before. If the margin of error breaks for Trump in the same way it did in 2016 and 2020, then he'll likely win with a decent majority. If being the key word in that sentence.
Jattdogg Posted 31 October 2024 Posted 31 October 2024 Meh, we are all prepared for a trump presidency. Used to his ways. Another 4 years and I think the movement will be over. At least Trump himself will be as he can't run again. All the regular republicans are sucking him off because they have to. Once they don't have to anymore, it might return to somewhat normal. Unless his sons run but they are not the same coont as he is. Polls are too close to call either way.
urban.spaceman Posted 31 October 2024 Posted 31 October 2024 19 minutes ago, Jattdogg said: Meh, we are all prepared for a trump presidency. Used to his ways. Another 4 years and I think the movement will be over. At least Trump himself will be as he can't run again. All the regular republicans are sucking him off because they have to. Once they don't have to anymore, it might return to somewhat normal. Unless his sons run but they are not the same coont as he is. Polls are too close to call either way. He will be far, far worse this time. 1
leicsmac Posted 31 October 2024 Author Posted 31 October 2024 26 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: He will be far, far worse this time. To say nothing of his supporters. 1
SpacedX Posted 31 October 2024 Posted 31 October 2024 1 hour ago, Jattdogg said: Meh, we are all prepared for a trump presidency. Used to his ways. Another 4 years and I think the movement will be over. At least Trump himself will be as he can't run again. All the regular republicans are sucking him off because they have to. Once they don't have to anymore, it might return to somewhat normal. Unless his sons run but they are not the same coont as he is. Polls are too close to call either way. Disagree. The party and its voters are now given over to the alt-right. Terrifying to think that actually, there are even scarier presidential candidates than Donald Trump waiting in the wings. 2
Jattdogg Posted 31 October 2024 Posted 31 October 2024 2 hours ago, SpacedX said: Disagree. The party and its voters are now given over to the alt-right. Terrifying to think that actually, there are even scarier presidential candidates than Donald Trump waiting in the wings. Let's see in 1 week or 4 years
leicsmac Posted 31 October 2024 Author Posted 31 October 2024 7 minutes ago, ealingfox said: This isn't actually possible is it? A dead heat? Possible, but unlikely.
Zear0 Posted 31 October 2024 Posted 31 October 2024 20 minutes ago, ealingfox said: This isn't actually possible is it? Who'd have though the "dead heat" election would end up in a tie.
Dunge Posted 31 October 2024 Posted 31 October 2024 Personally I would welcome a dead heat, and the rarely-seen Rock-Paper-Scissors standoff.
ozleicester Posted 31 October 2024 Posted 31 October 2024 1 hour ago, Dunge said: Personally I would welcome a dead heat, and the rarely-seen Rock-Paper-Scissors standoff. Ive got the most beautiful rock, the best paper, and no-one has sharper scissors than me!
Jattdogg Posted 1 November 2024 Posted 1 November 2024 4 hours ago, ealingfox said: This isn't actually possible is it? https://www.270towin.com/content/electoral-college-ties That explains it. Essentially, the house votes to choose the prez and the senate votes to choose the VP. Imagine President Trump and VP Harris or vice versa Something tells me of that happened with Trump being VP he wouldn't take it.
reporterpenguin Posted 1 November 2024 Posted 1 November 2024 7 hours ago, Jattdogg said: https://www.270towin.com/content/electoral-college-ties That explains it. Essentially, the house votes to choose the prez and the senate votes to choose the VP. Imagine President Trump and VP Harris or vice versa Something tells me of that happened with Trump being VP he wouldn't take it. Maybe they could split it like in a divorce? Trump gets it on the weekend and every third Friday? 3
pmcla26 Posted 1 November 2024 Posted 1 November 2024 If it was a dead heat, they could just give it to the legitimate candidate and sack the other one off that shouldn't even be in the running then.
leicsmac Posted 1 November 2024 Author Posted 1 November 2024 3 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: If it was a dead heat, they could just give it to the legitimate candidate and sack the other one off that shouldn't even be in the running then. The darkly hilarious thing is that depending on who you talk to, this could be either candidate. 1
pmcla26 Posted 1 November 2024 Posted 1 November 2024 9 minutes ago, leicsmac said: The darkly hilarious thing is that depending on who you talk to, this could be either candidate. Exactly, you'll never know who I mean now 1
ajthefox Posted 1 November 2024 Posted 1 November 2024 Dead heat, winner to be decided by an old fashioned duel. Trump would get his head blown off whilst trying to work out how to fire a gun. The Republicans would then begrudgingly respect Harris for her gun(wo)manship and start hootin' and hollerin'. Donald is quickly forgotten. American politics/society evolves in a considered, and progressive way. Everybody wins.
Popular Post Foxdiamond Posted 1 November 2024 Popular Post Posted 1 November 2024 Still staggers me that a bloke who basically instigated the Capitol riot etc is able to run again plus that so many will vote for him 6
MustardTiger Posted 1 November 2024 Posted 1 November 2024 17 hours ago, ealingfox said: This isn't actually possible is it?
leicsmac Posted 1 November 2024 Author Posted 1 November 2024 6 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: Still staggers me that a bloke who basically instigated the Capitol riot etc is able to run again plus that so many will vote for him I mean, I get the legally - there's no rule against someone who has done as he has done from running again. It's just difficult to comprehend exactly how so many people are clearly OK with electing a man who has such views on women, minority groups, the future of the biosphere and is clearly willing to disrupt the democratic political process for the sake of his own power. 1
st albans fox Posted 1 November 2024 Posted 1 November 2024 41 minutes ago, leicsmac said: I mean, I get the legally - there's no rule against someone who has done as he has done from running again. It's just difficult to comprehend exactly how so many people are clearly OK with electing a man who has such views on women, minority groups, the future of the biosphere and is clearly willing to disrupt the democratic political process for the sake of his own power. Yeah yeah - but apart from that …… 1
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