Cooper - OUT

[tinpot_fox]

1 minute ago, murphy said:

At least they were cheap cock ups. Blowing the budget on Oliver skipp was a head scratcher though. 

It might have been a head scratcher at the time, but he has arguably got us some points on the board with his performances.

[winteriscoming]

7 minutes ago, murphy said:

Because they were established, not newly promoted, there were worse teams in the division and most of all, because it was only October.  They had just had a bad start.  Of course they could have gone down but their situation was not the same as ours. 

 

As it happens, I don't have any more faith in cooper than you do and I'm not advocating accepting anything.  I am just fed up of hearing about Aston villa and unai bloomin emery, as if there is some top manager out there just waiting for us to click our.fingers.  It is a meaningless comparison. 

I just think there are decent managers available who we could get. There are not at the level Emery is at but clearly better than Cooper. I don’t like the mindset of us settling for Cooper just because currently we’re out the bottom 3. 

[fox_up_north]

46 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Losing 5-0 to Manchester United who are only 2 points above us would be a sackable offense.

It should be but you've got to think like the owners and Joe Public. Man United tonking someone feeds into the "big team" narrative

[SafewayFox]

16 hours ago, JimJams said:

He's definitely not going. Even if we got destroyed. There are enough shit teams doing poorly that it's going to take a combination of us being shite and other rivals down the bottom to start changing their own fortunes around, and I don't think that looks all that likely if you watch them.  Results against the also rans at the wrong end of the table could well be enough for us. 

Saints look shite, Ipswich are struggling and despite a win today Wolves look crap as well. That's without factoring in Everton, West Ham and Palace.  Even as we are we can finish above those 6.  We might not, but I think they'll bank on at least getting it half right.

Wolves have been in the majority of their games though haven’t they? 
 

Reckon defensively they are susceptible but they keep Cunha fit, they’re a much better outfit than us, which is a sad reflection of our downfall.

 

They’ve been in most of their games and unlike our first 10 games had a hideous fixture list.

 

There is zero chance that we finish above Wolves this season if we stick with the handbrake that is Cooper.

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

Wolves have been in the majority of their games though haven’t they? 
 

Reckon defensively they are susceptible but they keep Cunha fit, they’re a much better outfit than us, which is a sad reflection of our downfall.

 

They’ve been in most of their games and unlike our first 10 games had a hideous fixture list.

 

There is zero chance that we finish above Wolves this season if we stick with the handbrake that is Cooper.

Cooper is the symptom, not the cause of our downfall as it is a far longer running decline, so not sure how pointing to the current incumbent helps.

[SafewayFox]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

Cooper is the symptom, not the cause of our downfall as it is a far longer running decline, so not sure how pointing to the current incumbent helps.

Not disputing that 

 

Read the thread/room and people are disputing about replacing Cooper or not.

 

I merely predicted that a Gary O’Neil Wolves finishes higher in the PL than a Leicester under Cooper.

 

We have zero identity, all you have to do is read a few pages back and the in depth analysis from Dom.

 

 

[Claudio Fannieri]

Today is a massive game for Cooper, given our performances and so far perceived luck to have accumulated the points we have to date, you do feel he is one or two poor results away from being under real pressure and scrutiny. If we take a heavy beating today I can see the tide turning pretty quickly. 
 

Whilst he has amassed the points he has, there is some significant red flags at this stage, the lack of a coherent tactical plan, some strange team selections and substitutions, some pretty strange in game management and a heavy reliance on our goal leading a somewhat charmed life and moments of individual brilliance, I think a large proportion of the fanbase remain very much unconvinced by Cooper and you do wonder if that is also the case with the decision makers and elements of the playing squad. 
 

Whilst if he continues to get results by hook or by crook he will cling onto his job, I have. a feeling like Peter Taylor, one or two bad defeats and it will come crashing down it will turn toxic very quickly. 
 

Today will be damage limitation I think, he will want to come away relatively unscathed. 

[Vazman]

There are lots and lots of good reasons for, and against, my only take on this is do the team perform, collectively well for 90 mins or sustained periods longer than 20 mins tops, in either half, the answer for me is no, for whatever reason, I dont care, its SC job to ensure we do, for that reason I'm SC out.

 

The reasons on here to retain held water when we were shitting it with a potential points deduction the situation has changed in that regards so therefore his remit should be a bit more ambitious.

[foxfanazer]

If there was even the slightest shred of evidence that he has any tactical nous I'd be more for keeping him but we're just rolling the dice every game and hoping for the best. 

[Dr The Singh]

Regardless of the result today, we still are not in the bottom 3.  So he is going nowhere just yet

[Dahnsouff]

32 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

Not disputing that 

 

Read the thread/room and people are disputing about replacing Cooper or not.

 

I merely predicted that a Gary O’Neil Wolves finishes higher in the PL than a Leicester under Cooper.

 

We have zero identity, all you have to do is read a few pages back and the in depth analysis from Dom.

 

 

Fair enough, but if people truly believed it then a KP out thread would equally as hot, no?

Seems to me people still  believe we are the same club as we were at the height of our success, whereas in reality we have clearly been undone by mismanagement at many levels.

[gurru991]

2 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

I just think there are decent managers available who we could get. There are not at the level Emery is at but clearly better than Cooper. I don’t like the mindset of us settling for Cooper just because currently we’re out the bottom 3. 

I'm interested in who you think we could get.

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, gurru991 said:

I'm interested in who you think we could get.

@Muzzy_no7 unleash the list. 

[Number 6]

1 hour ago, SafewayFox said:

Wolves have been in the majority of their games though haven’t they? 
 

Reckon defensively they are susceptible but they keep Cunha fit, they’re a much better outfit than us, which is a sad reflection of our downfall.

 

They’ve been in most of their games and unlike our first 10 games had a hideous fixture list.

 

There is zero chance that we finish above Wolves this season if we stick with the handbrake that is Cooper.

Fixtures not great for Wolves but Luton took 5 points from those fixtures last year (before yesterday's) and they were miles off the pace. Wolves would need to run at a 50pt a season pace for the remainder to hit 40, it's a big ask.

[winteriscoming]

8 minutes ago, gurru991 said:

I'm interested in who you think we could get.

Niko Kovac 

Roger Schmidt 

Sergio Conceiao

Rudi Garcia 

Urs Fischer 

Edin Terzic 

 

All readily available. 

 

[gurru991]

29 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Niko Kovac 

Roger Schmidt 

Sergio Conceiao

Rudi Garcia 

Urs Fischer 

Edin Terzic 

 

All readily available. 

 

Thanks... Interesting list ..

There is a lot of experience there !!

[trooky]

According to Henry Winter on Talksport this morning we've already got a very good coach who's doing a good job😂

[winteriscoming]

4 minutes ago, trooky said:

According to Henry Winter on Talksport this morning we've already got a very good coach who's doing a good job😂

Obviously hasn’t watched any of our games. 

[Muzzy_no7]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

@Muzzy_no7 unleash the list. 

Honestly, I give up 

[JimJams]

That's the spirit.

[sharpylcfc]

1 hour ago, winteriscoming said:

Niko Kovac 

Roger Schmidt 

Sergio Conceiao

Rudi Garcia 

Urs Fischer 

Edin Terzic 

 

All readily available. 

 

I would even take a Sunday League manager over Cooper. Lose today and it just has to been the end of his time here.

[volpeazzurro]

2 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

If there was even the slightest shred of evidence that he has any tactical nous I'd be more for keeping him but we're just rolling the dice every game and hoping for the best. 

Tbh, I think it is exactly that.

[FrankieADZ]

2 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

Niko Kovac 

Roger Schmidt 

Sergio Conceiao

Rudi Garcia 

Urs Fischer 

Edin Terzic 

 

All readily available. 

 

any of them would be better than Cooper, look at Forest now as an outfit compared to under Cooper

NES has made them so much better, organised etc

 

while we have a clown who thinks we dont have much of a right side issue

[winteriscoming]

1 minute ago, FrankieADZ said:

any of them would be better than Cooper, look at Forest now as an outfit compared to under Cooper

NES has made them so much better, organised etc

 

while we have a clown who thinks we dont have much of a right side issue

Not just forest. Look at Bournemouth and Brighton. Much better options abroad. 

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, winteriscoming said:

Not just forest. Look at Bournemouth and Brighton. Much better options abroad. 

sad thing is, we seem to want "experience" in that regard

even tho anyone can see Cooper is well well out of his depth