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[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, Lionator said:

If the US forces in Syria started fighting against Turkish forces, could one of them trigger article 5?

The old Spiderman gif.  I mean they are basically fighting each other atm anyway. The question for me is are the USA really committed to the Kurds or will any group who commits to holding the isis prisoners be ok for them ?  things change again in a month and would trump just follow that route anyway and withdraw armed support for them. 

 

Also, how long will we have to wait to find out who jolani really is ? 

[st albans fox]

This is not the first time - i recall it was a data  cable last time 

[blabyboy]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

This is not the first time - i recall it was a data  cable last time 

You would think NATO have some subs in that area ready to deter an errant anchors being dragged..

[Lionator]

WW3 surely nailed on for 2025. 

[Grebfromgrebland]

8 minutes ago, Lionator said:

WW3 surely nailed on for 2025. 

That was 2023

[st albans fox]

4 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

That was 2023

Did we win ?

the stats say we’re due a defeat ……

Edited 26 December 2024 by st albans fox

[leicsmac]

Nah, the "best" is very much yet to come on the above matter.

 

Wait until it's impossible to grow food or source potable water in places where a billion or more people live.

[blabyboy]

4 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Nah, the "best" is very much yet to come on the above matter.

 

Wait until it's impossible to grow food or source potable water in places where a billion or more people live.

That would still only be regional I think- China and India, with maybe Pakistan kicking in once the big two have slogged it out and exhausted resources?

 

Nice, succinct overview here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53062484.amp

 

 

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, blabyboy said:

That would still only be regional I think- China and India, with maybe Pakistan kicking in once the big two have slogged it out and exhausted resources?

 

Nice, succinct overview here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53062484.amp

 

 

In terms of WMDs being used, it would likely remain regional, yeah (if matters concerning nations that host fully one third of the world's population can be considered regional).

 

However, both sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America, being equatorial, would likely have similar issues and similar results with conventional warfare too.

[st albans fox]

How many people could fit into New Zealand ?

[boots60]

58 minutes ago, Lionator said:

WW3 surely nailed on for 2025. 

Does anybody know how long to world war 3

I got to know, I want to book me holidee

They want me in the army but I just can't go

I'm far too busy listening to me radio

[leicsmac]

9 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

How many people could fit into New Zealand ?

If we go full Coruscant and use Singapore figures (roughly 8000 people/sq km, then NZ's land area of approximately 268,000 sq km gives us a total of 2,144,000,000 people - around a quarter of the world's population.

 

Of course, that doesn't take into account the rather large lot of mountains you'd have to bulldoze to access all of the available area.

 

To expand, the required area to live Singapore-style would be roughly 8,000,000,000/8,000 = 1 million sq km, roughly the size of Bolivia or Ethiopia, but rather small when compared to the overall land area of the Earth.

[st albans fox]

4 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

If we go full Coruscant and use Singapore figures (roughly 8000 people/sq km, then NZ's land area of approximately 268,000 sq km gives us a total of 2,144,000,000 people - around a quarter of the world's population.

 

Of course, that doesn't take into account the rather large lot of mountains you'd have to bulldoze to access all of the available area.

 

To expand, the required area to live Singapore-style would be roughly 8,000,000,000/8,000 = 1 million sq km, roughly the size of Bolivia or Ethiopia, but rather small when compared to the overall land area of the Earth.

we’d need to retain agricultural land to feed the population 

we can’t bulldoze mountains  

 

can we say approx 300m max ?  
 

that’s more than enough to keep the human race going ….

[casablancas]

24 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

How many people could fit into New Zealand ?

I’m working on getting myself over there as we speak. One of the few advantages of being a RMN, they love us over there

[leicsmac]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

we’d need to retain agricultural land to feed the population 

we can’t bulldoze mountains  

 

can we say approx 300m max ?  
 

that’s more than enough to keep the human race going ….

Well, assuming that you're not in favour of a cataclysmic population crash and you mean 300 pop per sq km to allow for agriculture and the like rather than a drop to 300 million people ...

 

That's roughly 28 million sq km, or the size of Russia and the US put together. Again possible, but not easy.

 

 

Edited 26 December 2024 by leicsmac

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Well, assuming that you're not in favour of a cataclysmic population crash and you mean 300 pop per sq km rather than 300 million people to allow for agriculture and the like...

 

That's roughly 28 million sq km, or the size of Russia and the US put together. Again possible, but not easy.

 

 

I’ve no idea mac 😀

[leicsmac]

20 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I’ve no idea mac 😀

I may not have been clear enough myself

 

In any case, long and the short of it is that we'd better get better at maintaining the living space we have or there will be rather less of it, with unpleasant consequences.

[Parafox]

6 hours ago, casablancas said:

I’m working on getting myself over there as we speak. One of the few advantages of being a RMN, they love us over there

 

Doesn't NZ have a comparatively higher rate of suicides than the rest of the world?

[Lionator]

The chances are that ww3 starts and we all get blown up and irradiated so a lot of the complains on the main forum are pretty pointless. All it will take is one incident in the Baltic and Black Sea, or US has told Russia that they will enter Ukraine if North Korean troops do. That will be a nuclear war. It’s sick.

[SpacedX]

5 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

Doesn't NZ have a comparatively higher rate of suicides than the rest of the world?

Per head, amongst 15 - 19 year olds, yes. These tend to be from deprived backgrounds and include a high proportion of Maori and Pacific Islander men illustrating the problems that still endure surrounding cultural identity and colonisation. There is also stigma surrounding disclosure of mental health issues. 

 

I lived in New Zealand for a period as a child. Many of the problems can be attributed to schooling and bullying. I was fortunate to live in a quite prosperous area, but it there were nonetheless acute class divisions. 

 

It's a beautiful country, albeit tectonically very active but I am saddened by the environmental issues caused by intensive farming that many are oblivious to. 

[leicsmac]

11 minutes ago, Lionator said:

The chances are that ww3 starts and we all get blown up and irradiated so a lot of the complains on the main forum are pretty pointless. All it will take is one incident in the Baltic and Black Sea, or US has told Russia that they will enter Ukraine if North Korean troops do. That will be a nuclear war. It’s sick.

Certain parts of the Cold War was a lot more unstable than the current situation, and the weapons didn't fly then. That's encouraging.

 

Of course, put enough strain on vital resources and all bets are off.

[Daggers]

 

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj30234e0djo

 

South Korea has voted to impeach its acting president Han Duck-soo, two weeks after parliament voted to impeach its President Yoon Suk Yeol.

A total of 192 lawmakers voted for his impeachment, more than the 151 votes needed for it to succeed.

Prime minister Han took over the role after President Yoon was impeached by parliament following his failed attempt to impose martial law on 3 December.

Han was supposed to lead the country out of its political turmoil, but opposition MPs argued that he was refusing demands to complete Yoon's impeachment process.

 

The Korean opposition not messing about then. Not confirming the judges we need to run the impeachment case against your former leader? We'll throw you out on your ear too and get someone in who will.

The US might want to take notes on how a system of checks and balances really works.

[Dunge]

16 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj30234e0djo

 

South Korea has voted to impeach its acting president Han Duck-soo, two weeks after parliament voted to impeach its President Yoon Suk Yeol.

A total of 192 lawmakers voted for his impeachment, more than the 151 votes needed for it to succeed.

Prime minister Han took over the role after President Yoon was impeached by parliament following his failed attempt to impose martial law on 3 December.

Han was supposed to lead the country out of its political turmoil, but opposition MPs argued that he was refusing demands to complete Yoon's impeachment process.

 

The Korean opposition not messing about then. Not confirming the judges we need to run the impeachment case against your former leader? We'll throw you out on your ear too and get someone in who will.

The US might want to take notes on how a system of checks and balances really works.

Those checks and balances need to work out first before South Korea can feel any pride in them. Even the best interpretation at this point has to be “Not out of the woods”.

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Dunge said:

Those checks and balances need to work out first before South Korea can feel any pride in them. Even the best interpretation at this point has to be “Not out of the woods”.

They've worked with difficult leaders in the past since the advent of full democracy there, there should be every hope that they will do so again.

 

But yes, it's far from all done.