Bournemouth (H) 1 - 0 -- Post-Match Thread (5 Oct 24)

[Dahnsouff]

27 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I don’t think what the OP said was unfair ? 70 minutes v Spurs, they should’ve scored 2,3 but missed some very good opportunities. Arsenal was down to an exceptional performance from Mads. No tactics there. Today, Bournemouth, hit the post, crossbar and scored (rightly disallowed). 
 

Fulham was a dull game but we barely tested post going 2-1 down. Palace, the tactics and subs threw us. Villa and Everton, by his own admission we didn’t start well. 
 

If anything, what Cooper adds is still to be decided. It’s not unreasonable to say that. 

This is what every football fan says though, this could have happened or we didn’t do that, it’s important to keep it grounded and focus on the unit, players, manager, etc. We won, I just hope we grow after this win and improve, but this season very much depends on how we as a unit develop from here.

 

If people are being consistently negative and will not entertain that their point of view could be incorrect or even subject to change (I have already said I would not  be sad to see Cooper go) then why should I entertain their relentless negativity? They do not entertain my irritating non-stop positivity. 

 

Edited 5 October 2024 by Dahnsouff

[sylofox]

Same old VAR always cheats us.

[AKCJ]

2 woeful sides.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

A win is a win

 

temporary stay of execution for Captain Adventure aka Cooper 

[Dahnsouff]

7 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

What is the important job that Ayew is doing? Killing momentum when we get the ball by shithousing a free kick which we then just punt in the box but Bournemouth got their head to every one and started to counter?

 

This seems like Coopers main tactic, so in that sense he doing the job Cooper wants. 

I think, yes, this ability to get the ball, win a free kick to stop the oppositions momentum does seem a part of it for sure. Works sometimes I guess.

[lestalee]

17 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

Ayew has been utterly shit so far, even today all he did was kill attacks.

 

we've not been thrashed by luck, not tactics. we're creating less than any other team in the division, we're giving up more than any team besides Ipswich, who've already played Liverpool and Man city. we should have been absolutely pumped at arsenal but for a generational performance from Hermansen. 

 

we're not going to top that mini league come May under Cooper, we'll finish bottom two 

Totally disagree...

[fox_favourite]

I have never come away from a win as frustrated as I have today. Good to get the 3pts, but it wasn't down to tactics, game management. It's was down to one moment of brilliance and some clear luck. 

 

Honestly, Cooper doesn't know what to do in a game. He panics. It was clear that it needs freshen up after they made the subs. We have key players from last season on the bench that would have been useful to change things and change the momentum. He didn't. Ayew wasn't working from the 1st half. He is so frustrating and it's so blinking clear. 

 

But 3pt well and truly needed and welcomed, but it wasn't because of Cooper.

 

He needs to tells what he learnt over his break. Because from where I'm sitting....it was nout

Edited 5 October 2024 by fox_favourite

[Richmondfox]

3 points which is great but it was a goal from a moment of brilliance rather than design by a manager.

 

Turgid football in the second half set up to at least get a draw.  You could see Vardy and even Faes waving players to move up the pitch yet the didn’t even bust into a jog. 
 

Poor subs again 15 minutes after Bournemouth made theirs, they made no difference anyway.  Ayew nullifies attacks that would flow if Fac was in the middle. Ndidi was useless after 60 mins as usual, watching players jog by him and afraid to tackle. 

 

Okoli played better as the game progressed, hopefully will learn as he goes on. Mavadidi tried to do too much as the support isn’t great around him, Ayew kept dropping near him but no one filled the space he left.

 

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

I think he was bang average yea he got stuck in and won a load of fouls, but he can’t take a man on, always plays it safe, slow on the ball, kills attacks we should be starting Bilal which would give us more attacking threat while still being petty solid defensively.

 

This would give us a lot more balance and Fatawu should be used for one of facundo or bilal.

 

Ayew is good for the last 20/30 minutes.

Fancy that is 100% his job tbh. Fatawu is great but he does not have the smarts of Ayew and I reckon that’s why Cooper starts Ayew when he is available.

[Richmondfox]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

I think, yes, this ability to get the ball, win a free kick to stop the oppositions momentum does seem a part of it for sure. Works sometimes I guess.

But it’s our momentum that he stops not the opposition. So not much help when trying to attack. 

[kyleolly]

1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

I think he was bang average yea he got stuck in and won a load of fouls, but he can’t take a man on, always plays it safe, slow on the ball, kills attacks we should be starting Bilal which would give us more attacking threat while still being petty solid defensively.

 

This would give us a lot more balance and Fatawu should be used for one of facundo or bilal.

 

Ayew is good for the last 20/30 minutes.

Did he not play the ball forward to Mavadidi to get him in on goal he held the ball up and bought others in to play I thought he was good as a number 10 no James Maddison but he’s not in the team for that he did his job well people on here have selective viewing

[sishades]

2 minutes ago, sylofox said:

Same old VAR always cheats us.

ahem 2021

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Richmondfox said:

But it’s our momentum that he stops not the opposition. So not much help when trying to attack. 

But he stops us suffering wave after wave of attacks, like today, is crucial we have an out ball. Not every out ball needs to lead to an attack, it is also useful to relieve the pressure. (I know how tedious that sounds)

[Buzzell]

Faes was outstanding today, Okoli was very good also.

[Mickyblueeyes]

I’ve done it again. I swear I wouldn’t but I’ve fallen in love with a loan player - how much do Brighton want

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

Fancy that is 100% his job tbh. Fatawu is great but he does not have the smarts of Ayew and I reckon that’s why Cooper starts Ayew when he is available.

I think we would be a lot better of with Bilal in there instead of Ayew winning fouls is not gonna get us anywhere.

[whoareyaaa]

2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

But he stops us suffering wave after wave of attacks, like today, is crucial we have an out ball. Not every out ball needs to lead to an attack, it is also useful to relieve the pressure. (I know how tedious that sounds)

Hardly how many attacks did he stop today ?

[Royston.]

3 points

 

****in get in there

A glass(bottle) of red wine to celebrate 

[Dames]

Hard hard watch but a win is a win. We wont get many playing like this though so best enjoy it. 

[FLAN]

We have a very physically weak team. Mavididi makes little effort to compete off the ball and Edoaurd looks as strong as a 5 year old. Need to win far more second balls 

and cooper subs remain poor 

[fox_favourite]

We are quick to jump on players when we lose and they didn't perform. But that win is all them and not Cooper

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

I think we would be a lot better of with Bilal in there instead of Ayew winning fouls is not gonna get us anywhere.

Hope after todays epiphany of not requiring 3 CDMs that we see a more adaptable formation soon, and yes, a bit more Bilal whilst keeping plenty of Facundo.

 

Anyway, Ayew’s foul fishing helped get us over the line today.

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Hardly how many attacks did he stop today ?

Buying fouls on the byline, 5+ I would think.

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

Hope after todays epiphany of not requiring 3 CDMs that we see a more adaptable formation soon, and yes, a bit more Bilal whilst keeping plenty of Facundo.

 

Anyway, Ayew’s foul fishing helped get us over the line today.

Yea hopefully he has the balls to try new things and not rely on Ayew all season long.

[Pick Good Name Later]

A wins a win. 3 points and up to 15th. Competed well first half and didn’t look out of place against a team that will be in the lower reaches come May.
 

But what was that second half. That simply isn’t sustainable. The message was clearly ‘shut up shop and sit back’ - Horrendous. Against any half decent team, we’d have been picked apart. That’s no strategy for survival. 

For all of the criticism he gets, I thought Ayew was very good today. Held the ball. Drew fouls. Made good runs. Created space. If there’s a willingness to accept that this is the role he plays in the team, he’s effective. I’m just not sure that should be a standout trait for a winger/10. And when he ends up with 20 odd PL appearances and 0 goals and 0 assists, it’s a poor argument to say ‘he’s industrious’

 

Relief springs to mind, but it’s difficult to see light at the end of the tunnel.