SouthStandUpperTier Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 1 minute ago, Scotch said: We are stronger at CB than we are at FB. You mean less weak at CB. Still nowhere near the required standard. 2
Scotch Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 6 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: You mean less weak at CB. Still nowhere near the required standard. Well... yeah. That's exactly what I meant. 1
Simonb Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 19 hours ago, Bordersfox said: Willock is not a winger, another central midfielder is definitely not a priority. We need a RB a genuine RW a CB and a striker. In our dreams. Yea good point. Although the only times I've seen Willock playing well seemed to be when he was further on the right. But yes it was a winger I was alluding to, like you say, in our dreams 1
cityfanlee23 Posted 5 January Posted 5 January It’s a shame we treated him so poorly for 18 months under Brendan, but Cags was one of our best players when Dean Smith came in and recalled him, I don’t think we would have gone down if he played all season. I doubt he would want to leave Fenerbahce for a relegation scrap now though. Just the sort of player we need right now and if we were a bit safer in the table would likely only cost £12-15m, 28 years old. 1 1
teblin Posted 5 January Posted 5 January A striker that can hold up and take pressure off would be great. 2
reynard Posted 5 January Posted 5 January We just need to get moving on this. It is clear we need better defenders but also a winger and striker and ball winning midfielder. I don't care what order we get them in though I think a right back is the most urgent. 1
FoxOnWheels Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 2 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: The summer window was the one we had to get right, but the threat of a points deduction hindered that. There's a slim chance we might find an inspirational, unwanted re-tread similar to Huth this January, but I don't see many decent players lobbying their agent to get them a move here at this moment. We still spent enough that if we got it right we’d of been much better! Okoli fee could of got us a good enough solid centre half and Skipp money could of got us a very decent centre mid if those 2 positions were bought right would of made a massive difference
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 1 minute ago, FoxOnWheels said: We still spent enough that if we got it right we’d of been much better! Okoli fee could of got us a good enough solid centre half and Skipp money could of got us a very decent centre mid if those 2 positions were bought right would of made a massive difference Maybe we were in for better players but they were put off by the possibility of a points deduction, which was hanging over us at that time. 1
JimJams Posted 5 January Posted 5 January (edited) 9 minutes ago, FoxOnWheels said: We still spent enough that if we got it right we’d of been much better! Okoli fee could of got us a good enough solid centre half and Skipp money could of got us a very decent centre mid if those 2 positions were bought right would of made a massive difference I'm not entirely convinced that Okoli is a bad buy tbh, £12mill on 25k a week. Certainly when he was paired with Faes under Cooper he didn't look like the one making us weak at the back. Apart form the cup game vs Man Utd of course, which may have been Ruuds first, and lasting impression of him. Skipp though was a total pisstake. I don't really understand us paying that kind of fee for anybody that another premier league club WANTS to get rid of. And in a position we were relatively well stacked in anyway. No club should be paying market value or above for anyone that the parent club actually wants to sell. Can only imagine the narrative that Skipp took Winks place in the Spurs side initially meant he must be worth more. Edited 5 January by JimJams 1
FoxOnWheels Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 39 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: Maybe we were in for better players but they were put off by the possibility of a points deduction, which was hanging over us at that time. Then don’t spend the money at all then because wtf have either contributed
FoxOnWheels Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 35 minutes ago, JimJams said: I'm not entirely convinced that Okoli is a bad buy tbh, £12mill on 25k a week. Certainly when he was paired with Faes under Cooper he didn't look like the one making us weak at the back. Apart form the cup game vs Man Utd of course, which may have been Ruuds first, and lasting impression of him. Skipp though was a total pisstake. I don't really understand us paying that kind of fee for anybody that another premier league club WANTS to get rid of. And in a position we were relatively well stacked in anyway. No club should be paying market value or above for anyone that the parent club actually wants to sell. Can only imagine the narrative that Skipp took Winks place in the Spurs side initially meant he must be worth more. I’m not saying he’s a bad buy but he’s a bad buy for what we needed, you can easily find much better centre halves for around the same price if you have very limited funds you don’t waste them unless your sure the guy is a clear upgrade, the scouts have all year to be accurate
VLC86 Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 1 hour ago, cityfanlee23 said: It’s a shame we treated him so poorly for 18 months under Brendan, but Cags was one of our best players when Dean Smith came in and recalled him, I don’t think we would have gone down if he played all season. I doubt he would want to leave Fenerbahce for a relegation scrap now though. Just the sort of player we need right now and if we were a bit safer in the table would likely only cost £12-15m, 28 years old. Dont listen to them that tell you to stop drinking, it’s still Christmas pal. Be you. 2
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 1 minute ago, FoxOnWheels said: Then don’t spend the money at all And if they had you'd still be angry, and rightly so. I'm not trying to defend them, this situation is all of their own making (all stemming from the stupidest relegation ever). I'm just trying to explain that they probably couldn't get the targets they wanted (both manager and players) because of the possibility of the points deduction. But they couldn't not do anything.
JimJams Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 1 minute ago, FoxOnWheels said: I’m not saying he’s a bad buy but he’s a bad buy for what we needed, you can easily find much better centre halves for around the same price if you have very limited funds you don’t waste them unless your sure the guy is a clear upgrade, the scouts have all year to be accurate Yeah, but I'm not convinced they weren't yet. We've had a very weird season from a defensive perspective. Our pairing last season was split by Cooper to take Vesty out and put Okoli in. Then Ruud comes in and Vesty is back with Coady, a player who neither Enzo nor Cooper wanted in the side. Faes lost his place because he keeps having JJ like lapses which cost us points. Okoli hasn't (in the league) in my memory. Yet he's kind of been bombed out. I'm not having Coady as being better, and can only imagine RvN has put him in as he wants a vocal organiser in the back 4 which Okoli certainly won't be. If it's easy to find much better CB's then presumably we will in this window?
FoxOnWheels Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 2 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: And if they had you'd still be angry, and rightly so. I'm not trying to defend them, this situation is all of their own making (all stemming from the stupidest relegation ever). I'm just trying to explain that they probably couldn't get the targets they wanted (both manager and players) because of the possibility of the points deduction. But they couldn't not do anything. I see your point but then even that stems from there previous ****s ups, wonder when we will stop paying for this FFP bollox
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 12 minutes ago, FoxOnWheels said: I see your point but then even that stems from there previous ****s ups, wonder when we will stop paying for this FFP bollox Not for a long time I fear. Especially if we fall back into the EFL's clutches. 1
Ric Flair Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 4 hours ago, Highelf04 said: Makes me angrier to think we splashed 25mil on Skipp - when we could have got Sara if we only offered 2mil more. Imagine if we had ended up with Bilal and Sara.... Sara went for far less than what we paid for Skipp.
JimJams Posted 5 January Posted 5 January (edited) Yeah, think he means we bid 2m under the asking/selling price. So we could have bought him and had change. Edited 5 January by JimJams
Silebyfox_89 Posted 5 January Posted 5 January 5 minutes ago, Pliskin said: This lad is the bollocks. Got hints of early Portuguese Ronaldo with some of tricks. Gerrimmm in.
jv1 Posted 5 January Posted 5 January At least 2 in before QPR - this is the week to get it done - no prem game for 10 days RB to start CB to start Winger to start Forward to compete absolutely zero chance we do all 4 this window - Ruud will realise quickly we aren’t keeping our promises to him 4
Pliskin Posted 5 January Posted 5 January Another forward to look at is Nahuel Ulariaga. Plays or Deportivo in Argentina. He plays the game a bit like Sergio Aguero, similar stature too.
FoxinNotts Posted 5 January Posted 5 January Sell/Out:- Ward Faes Choudhury Thomas Edouard (Return Loan) Buy/In:- Right back Centre back Right wing Centre Forward
The boy Linacre Posted 6 January Posted 6 January Presume Rudkin et al are back from holiday like the rest of the UK or will they be taking more time off as it’s holidays across Europe today? As they look like they haven’t spotted we’re now 2nd bottom, have lost 5 games in a row & can’t defend. And one of our main competitors have already done loan business. Nothing like being proactive. Possibly our biggest 2 home league games of the season within the next 10 days where we MUST get 6pts, do they know?? 3
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