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[Lambert09]

5 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

It’s a huge risk given what’s waiting for us if we go down. If it wasn’t for the name, would he even be considered? I’d prefer Corberan but fully behind him if it happens. 

I don’t think it’s like a nepo baby getting an acting job though. 

 

With football, a big player, one tends to understand the game better. A winner knows the right way a dressing room should be and the standards required. They often have a strong tactical knowledge as that’s what helped them get to the top of the game.

 

They walk in to a room and players respect them and their ideas and they can attract people.  Yes he hasn’t proved himself yet but if he had, he wouldn’t consider us. 

 

PSV are a huge club and if they were willing to give him a try than we are in good company. He looked the real deal at times there but it turned out it was a big job too soon, but i think he has the talent. 

[Trent Steel]

1 minute ago, Larry_LCFC said:

Never thought I'd say it but Moyes is the obvious choice right now. He is what we need to stay up. The more I think about RVN, the more I think it's just too much of an unknown.

agree 110% Moyes is the best option for me too, he would be the best choice to try and keep us up as well, i like him

[Sooper Steve's shin]

4 minutes ago, Lionator said:

So many successful PL managers haven’t had ‘PL experience’ and so many unsuccessful managers have had ‘PL experience’. 

100%. In that sense, anyone is a “gamble” - but you can de-risk based on obvious factors. Success in the PL is one - who is more likely to be successful, Guardiola or an unknown/untested manager from the French third division? Doesn’t mean the latter could not be a success or even become more successful than Guardiola. 
Other factors must surely include having a clear coaching style that will work with our squad (as we’ve changed mid-season), experience of managing clubs in a similar situation (fighting for scraps at the bottom not swanning along at the top), ability to inspire the team/fans etc. 

Personally, I don’t see any obvious pull factors for Van Nistelrooy over the likes of Potter, Moyes or even Corberan or Carrick other than he was a world class player. Frank Lampard is another great from that era, pretty intelligent and by all accounts interviews exceptionally well - but I wouldn’t want him as he has no track record of converting all that into management. 

[AKCJ]

I hope it's Ruud. I think he's the sort of character that gets players and fans onside. I think his calm personality is what we need as opposed to Cooper's persistent fretting.

 

I'd imagine the players will respect him immensely. I just hope that we can build something with him. You just knew that Cooper wouldn't ever get more than 12 months here.

[TommyK]

Just don't think the squad would fit Moyes style of play. 

 

We're just not good enough at the back to try and keep clean sheets every game. 

[Tommy Fresh]

Said it before, but we surely get a few initial results out of whoever we appoint which should get us in to a strong enough position to at the very least limp to safety.

[fox_favourite]

@StriderHiryu  - watching your stream earlier, I got the impression that Corberan is more suited to us. He will make us harder to beat in the compact 4-4-2 in defence and going forward the players can use their knowledge of Enzo with his mix of tactics. 

 

RVN seems a higher risk to me. On a tactical level, would you agree, or have I got it wrong?

[Lionator]

Can we not convince Gasperini that Leicester in January is more beautiful than Bergamo in January?

[Lionator]

1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Said it before, but we surely get a few initial results out of whoever we appoint which should get us in to a strong enough position to at the very least limp to safety.

We literally just need one ‘good run’ and we’ll be fine. 

[Molson Canadian]

If it's RVN does he bring in the coaching staff that were let go with him at the same time at Man U would Rene Hake, Jelle ten Rouwelaar and Pieter Morel

 

 

[Nolucklcfc]

3 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I don’t think it’s like a nepo baby getting an acting job though. 

 

With football, a big player, one tends to understand the game better. A winner knows the right way a dressing room should be and the standards required. They often have a strong tactical knowledge as that’s what helped them get to the top of the game.

 

They walk in to a room and players respect them and their ideas and they can attract people.  Yes he hasn’t proved himself yet but if he had, he wouldn’t consider us. 

 

PSV are a huge club and if they were willing to give him a try than we are in good company. He looked the real deal at times there but it turned out it was a big job too soon, but i think he has the talent. 

To a point I agree with some of that but Lampard, Gerrard, Vieira and Henry are proof that it doesn’t always work like that. 

[Sooper Steve's shin]

2 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I don’t think it’s like a nepo baby getting an acting job though. 

 

With football, a big player, one tends to understand the game better. A winner knows the right way a dressing room should be and the standards required. They often have a strong tactical knowledge as that’s what helped them get to the top of the game.

 

They walk in to a room and players respect them and their ideas and they can attract people.  Yes he hasn’t proved himself yet but if he had, he wouldn’t consider us. 

 

PSV are a huge club and if they were willing to give him a try than we are in good company. He looked the real deal at times there but it turned out it was a big job too soon, but i think he has the talent. 

Sorry, I don’t agree. Being a good coach and a good manager of people requires much more than knowing how a good dressing room feels. Great players don’t always have great tactical nous, they’ve generally been the best and that probably more often counters a lack of normal tactical awareness. It’s a generalization, but I think it’s a more valid one than suggesting they are all tactical geniuses (or capable of transferring any of their genius to other people). 

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

14 minutes ago, Hitesh said:

This has a scenario of us approaching Ruud and him saying no all over it.

That might be dodging a bullet. 

[Joe90lcfc]

Not at all keen on RVN, with his playing career he wouldn’t even be on our radar, hasn’t done anything to warrant a job here, another OGS I fear 

[Bilo]

1 minute ago, TommyK said:

Just don't think the squad would fit Moyes style of play. 

 

We're just not good enough at the back to try and keep clean sheets every game. 

I think we saw at the weekend with Ipswich what can happen when a team has a go. I'd argue we have a better squad than Ipswich but have been held back by an infuriatingly defensive approach. 

 

It makes the prospect of an attack minded manager exciting. There's every chance that we get spanked against the very best, but it could pay dividends against sides down there with us and better sides out of form.

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

3 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Can we not convince Gasperini that Leicester in January is more beautiful than Bergamo in January?

Bergamo's a shit hole apparently. @Finnegan reckons it's twinned with Aberdare. 

[scinnell]

Anyone will be an upgrade on Cooper 

[Sooper Steve's shin]

15 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

I feel he's being held back by the limits of budget (or lack of) at WBA. 

I think that is probably true and would be a more reasonable assessment than someone arguing RVN is a better choice because he’s a bigger name and can attract better players. Both are hypotheticals, but with Corberan there’s at least a basis of evidence in the job he’s done so far. 

[City blue]

Like most others I've got concerns about RVN but right now the club and fans and players are all on a low .

    He might just be able to sprinkle that little bit of stardust and attract a couple of exciting players and give us all a lift.  I don't think any club looks for long term managerial appointments any more and if he can bring some excitement back for a season or two then I'm happy with that.

 

[AKCJ]

4 minutes ago, Joe90lcfc said:

Not at all keen on RVN, with his playing career he wouldn’t even be on our radar, hasn’t done anything to warrant a job here, another OGS I fear 

His playing career isn't insignificant. His PSV side was decent and scored a lot of goals.

 

I know it's United and their budget blows ours out of the water but I was very impressed with how he managed our games against them when he was caretaker. He shut down every threat we posed.

[Bilo]

3 minutes ago, Sooper Steve's shin said:

I think that is probably true and would be a more reasonable assessment than someone arguing RVN is a better choice because he’s a bigger name and can attract better players. Both are hypotheticals, but with Corberan there’s at least a basis of evidence in the job he’s done so far. 

The concern I would have is whether he would know how to manage a bigger and better transfer budget. There's evidence to say that he can work with what he has to in the Championship, but our challenge is a bit different as we'll need to rebuild in January. 

[Fox42]

I sense that a lot of us fans would favour Moyes if he were to directly replace Enzo as opposed to going from Enzo to Cooper to him. And I get the impression the players would feel the same way. Getting in RVN would be the biggest booster to the camp out of anyone that’s available and linked right now.

[Bilo]

2 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

His playing career isn't insignificant. His PSV side was decent and scored a lot of goals.

 

I know it's United and their budget blows ours out of the water but I was very impressed with how he managed our games against them when he was caretaker. He shut down every threat we posed.

They put eight past us over two games and they're the only side who've kept a clean sheet against us so far, which certainly provides food for thought.

[Fox42]

1 minute ago, Bilo said:

They put eight past us over two games and they're the only side who've kept a clean sheet against us so far, which certainly provides food for thought.

I still can’t get my head around this. Makes it sound like we’re world beaters

[PhillippaT]

13 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

Bergamo's a shit hole apparently. @Finnegan reckons it's twinned with Aberdare. 

I mean, aside from it's cultural heritage, stunning landscapes, and authentic cuisine, what else has it got offer?  

 

Can you imagine a site like this for Leicester?  https://www.visitbergamo.net/en/

 

Cheese valleys or death!  

Edited 26 November 2024 by PhillippaT