Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[joachim1965]

10 minutes ago, Filbert Fireworks said:

I can't believe the defence Ruud gets. Yes the board are part of the problem but he's not the man we need. One of our worst run of defeats on record. If he wasn't a "name" the fans would be treating him completely differently. Yes Cooper wasn't great but he did grind out just enough points to keep us in it. 

Ruud has played the same team, tactics and formation week in week out and doesn't work with this squad. 

 

Awful awful subs and games management and Cooper had us score more than 1 goal on a couple of occassions. If the fans gad got behind him no way he would have lost 8 on thr bounce. People forget he did a whole season in the prem was well liked at forest and kept them up. 

 

We've got used to the possession based fancy football which time has proven we dont have the squad for. 

 

RVN needs to go and we will pick up some points. 

Until the board changes we could have Pep in charge, we would still be shite, people need to understand this.

[FrankieADZ]

44 minutes ago, jonny_wright said:

 

really good read that tbh

 

brighton looking at maybe getting facundo back as he isnt happy

[coolhandfox]

2 hours ago, Bordersfox said:

Yes but does that matter? It increases the noise around the board/ownership.  It feels like the dam has broken now and it is open season on Rudkin.

 

Example - It is pretty well known that Rudkin is difficult to deal with (astonishing really that Levy and others still manage to dry bum him so regularly) but it's good to see it being reported in the national press.  

You think Top reads the Dailly Fail......

 

[Chelmofox]

1 hour ago, FrankieADZ said:

really good read that tbh

 

brighton looking at maybe getting facundo back as he isnt happy

They won't play him because of the obvious flaws he doesn't seem able (or want) to address. So he will either be unhappy here playing some part of out relegation battle, or unhappy at Brighton getting next to no minutes.

[DezFox]

2 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

They won't play him because of the obvious flaws he doesn't seem able (or want) to address. So he will either be unhappy here playing some part of out relegation battle, or unhappy at Brighton getting next to no minutes.

he obviously has floors but for me if he plays well for 20 minutes we have a much better chance of winning. 

[Chelmofox]

Just now, DezFox said:

he obviously has floors but for me if he plays well for 20 minutes we have a much better chance of winning. 

I know, but all this press about a 'loan player not being happy' is such bullsh1t. He's not our player and loaned here to do a job. Its like hiring a consultant of contractor in a company - do the job you are asked to or i just find someone else. Facundos 'happiness' right now should not be our problem. We should care about his ability to do the job we need him to do, and there are clear problems with that. He can work his *t*s off to address those, and fair play if he does and rips everyone a new bumhole for the rest of the season. But right now, getting the ball and walking into danger and handing the ball back isn't good enough, especially when we are seeing very little of the magic that counteracts that.

[mohammedsaqib]

If we lose today, he should lose his job. Nobody should be allowed to lose 8 in a row and keep their job at any level. 

[RedSoxUK]

13 hours ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Just get the feeling he's not into Leicester full glass...maybe that's why he hasn't  got any backroom staff and signings......he's waiting if the miracle happens and we stay up

That's not why he's got no backroom staff (apart from the goalkeeping guy,) I don't think he has any links because he's fallen out with the ones he knows. I'm sure we would have asked "who is your assistant coming with you?" And him saying "assistant?? I am the assistant."

[BKLFox]

Players are little man babies nowadays not used to the harsh realities of life and responsibility.
A manager should be able to rip into them after poor performances, christ I bet the majority would cry, walkout calling for their mums or seek counselling if a football manager delivered a team talk like Rassie Erasmus did to the SA squad after their loss to IRE and it wasn’t even a hairdryer talk just an honest wake up call questioning commitment, lack of regret & self pride.

Deserved or not, as it was a cracking game, it’s a managers way of getting a positive response from professional adults and getting them to re-focus, if it’s to harsh for them maybe elite sports isn’t for them.

 

worth googling.

[DezFox]

8 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

I know, but all this press about a 'loan player not being happy' is such bullsh1t. He's not our player and loaned here to do a job. Its like hiring a consultant of contractor in a company - do the job you are asked to or i just find someone else. Facundos 'happiness' right now should not be our problem. We should care about his ability to do the job we need him to do, and there are clear problems with that. He can work his *t*s off to address those, and fair play if he does and rips everyone a new bumhole for the rest of the season. But right now, getting the ball and walking into danger and handing the ball back isn't good enough, especially when we are seeing very little of the magic that counteracts that.

I agree with you. However I do feel he has been poorly managed. He was playing well and ultimately was our only positive in almost all games. He then got dropped for a bad 45 mins. He is a young lad and very clearly a confidence player. Should be man manger better imo. 

[Bordersfox]

20 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

You think Top reads the Dailly Fail......

 

I think he is very concerned about his own image hence his sniffy letter after the club received some mild criticism post relegation.  And absolutely the club, and Top, will be aware of the growing number of negative press stories.  

 

In fact, with the Enzo thing also being reported today, there is part of me that thinks this is the beginning of the end for Rudkin and that part of this is club sanctioned prior to kicking him upstairs.  I realise this is wishful thinking on my part but hey, I can dream. 

[coolhandfox]

3 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

I think he is very concerned about his own image hence his sniffy letter after the club received some mild criticism post relegation.  And absolutely the club, and Top, will be aware of the growing number of negative press stories.  

 

In fact, with the Enzo thing also being reported today, there is part of me that thinks this is the beginning of the end for Rudkin and that part of this is club sanctioned prior to kicking him upstairs.  I realise this is wishful thinking on my part but hey, I can dream. 

We will see.

[Chelmofox]

4 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

I think he is very concerned about his own image hence his sniffy letter after the club received some mild criticism post relegation.  And absolutely the club, and Top, will be aware of the growing number of negative press stories.  

 

In fact, with the Enzo thing also being reported today, there is part of me that thinks this is the beginning of the end for Rudkin and that part of this is club sanctioned prior to kicking him upstairs.  I realise this is wishful thinking on my part but hey, I can dream. 

What Enzo thing is being reported today? I don't read most of the rags.

[Bordersfox]

4 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

What Enzo thing is being reported today? I don't read most of the rags.

Someone posted a link elsewhere here.  That he wanted a sporting director that was basically competent and was annoyed by the clubs transfer management.  

 

Stuff we knew but now being put out there more vociferously 

[Claridge]

5 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

What Enzo thing is being reported today? I don't read most of the rags.

That as usual he has no plan B?

[Verumex]

1 hour ago, Filbert Fireworks said:

I can't believe the defence Ruud gets. Yes the board are part of the problem but he's not the man we need. One of our worst run of defeats on record. If he wasn't a "name" the fans would be treating him completely differently. Yes Cooper wasn't great but he did grind out just enough points to keep us in it. 

Ruud has played the same team, tactics and formation week in week out and doesn't work with this squad. 

 

Awful awful subs and games management and Cooper had us score more than 1 goal on a couple of occassions. If the fans gad got behind him no way he would have lost 8 on thr bounce. People forget he did a whole season in the prem was well liked at forest and kept them up. 

 

We've got used to the possession based fancy football which time has proven we dont have the squad for. 

 

RVN needs to go and we will pick up some points. 

You genuinely think that Cooper could have done better without Hermansen or Ndidi?

 

How would we score goals without his favourite Shadow Striker Ndidi?!

[Fox1norfolk]

26 minutes ago, mohammedsaqib said:

If we lose today, he should lose his job. Nobody should be allowed to lose 8 in a row and keep their job at any level. 

He would probably quit. I suspect LCFC have not delivered what they promised him

[cityfanlee23]

1 hour ago, FrankieADZ said:

really good read that tbh

 

brighton looking at maybe getting facundo back as he isnt happy

Buonanotte is one of our most creative outlets but his standards have dropped. Ruud clearly doesn’t fancy him and when he came on last match he was lazy and lost the ball multiple times within minutes of being introduced. 
 

He looked a superstar in those early games but his form is poor recently. If Ruud doesn’t fancy him send him back and bring in another attacking mid or maybe a proper box to box midfielder that can defend. 

[ClaphamFox]

2 hours ago, jonny_wright said:

 

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[Lesta Legend]

Just now, ClaphamFox said:

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Yes. 
 

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Edited 26 January by HankMarvin

[HankMarvin]

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After Leicester had subsided to defeat against Crystal Palace on January 15, a few senior players had seen enough.

With the rest of the team back in the dressing room at the King Power Stadium, it was explained to them in forceful terms that the Foxes were sleepwalking towards the drop.

Keep doing this and we are going down again, went the general message. Though boss Ruud van Nistelrooy added his thoughts, this inquest was player-led. The trigger is thought to have been Palace's second goal, where Marc Guehi had ambled forward unnoticed to volley home at the far post.

Why had the shouts from the bench - 'Pick up the six!' (Guehi's shirt number) - not been heeded? Why was young winger Kasey McAteer tasked with marking Guehi, a far stronger player? It was the last straw.

Unfortunately, the chat made not a shred of difference. Four days later, Leicester were even worse as they lost 2-0 at home to Fulham, a seventh straight defeat under Van Nistelrooy. This time the fans' patience snapped as director of football Jon Rudkin, along with other board members and Van Nistelrooy, felt the full force of their fury.

As Mail Sport revealed on Friday, matters reached boiling point again in the changing room after the 2-0 home defeat by Fulham as Van Nistelrooy turned on Facundo Buonanotte, who had performed sloppily as a second-half substitute. The duo are said to have had a fractious exchange in Spanish, which Van Nistelrooy speaks fluently after playing for Real Madrid and Malaga.

 

Indeed, in recent times Van Nistelrooy's mood is said to have darkened, particularly at the lack of transfer activity this month, with some even fearing he is considering quitting – as he did at PSV Eindhoven two years ago. Though this may be a dramatic take on matters, Sunday's match at Tottenham could be decisive in many ways.

Van Nistelrooy is a symptom of this malaise, not the cause. The Foxes hired the Dutchman in November after Graham Potter and David Moyes had made it clear they would not be interested in succeeding Steve Cooper.

It was a puzzling call: Van Nistelrooy's only experience of managing in a top-five league was a four-game stint in caretaker charge of Manchester United, after the sacking of Erik ten Hag and before the appointment of Ruben Amorim. That spell included two wins over Leicester, but surely those results alone could not have been the basis for appointing him. Could they?

Players are said to appreciate Van Nistelrooy's clear communication in tactical meetings, which are short and to the point. Despite an outstanding playing career, Van Nistelrooy is believed to be relatively quiet and reserved around the club's £95million training centre and behaves more like a traditional manager than a natural training-ground coach.

Four points from nine games is a grim haul yet like managers before him, Van Nistelrooy is working under tricky circumstances.

The only member of staff he has brought with him is goalkeeping coach Jelle ten Rouwelaar. First-team coach Brian Barry-Murphy, who has worked under Pep Guardiola at Manchester City, was appointed by the club, rather than recommended specifically by Van Nistelrooy.

First-team coach Ben Dawson, Danny Alcock – another goalkeeping coach – and set-piece specialist Andy Hughes all joined Leicester during Cooper's five-month tenure. Instead of one group of staff promoting a particular idea, as was the case when Enzo Maresca led Leicester to the Championship title last season, there is no single principle uniting the coaching team.

When Van Nistelrooy was hired, he made it clear he needed a full-back, a left-sided centre-back, a winger and a forward. But with financial restrictions in the background, and with the slow-moving Rudkin in charge of transfers, progress has been painfully slow, with only full-back Woyo Coulibaly signed in a £2m deal from Italian club Parma.

 

Rudkin's desire to earn the best deal for Leicester is admirable yet his haggling can be counter-productive.

At the start of the window Sheffield United wanted Hamza Choudhury on loan with an option to buy. Leicester would agree only to a loan with an obligation – for a player on a hefty contract who is unwanted by the current manager. On Friday, Leicester agreed to a loan with option after all. Valuable time lost over a single issue, in a month when speed and flexibility are vital.

Crucial under Cooper, Buonanotte has started only three of Van Nistelrooy's nine league games and Mail Sportunderstands Brighton have discussed the possibility of cancelling the season-long loan deal, with the 20-year-old unhappy at his lack of game time even before last Saturday's clash with his manager.

Stephy Mavididi, meanwhile, is thought to have been unsettled by the Foxes' pursuit of another winger and even though Jamie Vardy has seen off plenty of rivals down the years, the news that Van Nistelrooy would like another forward is unlikely to have put a spring in his step.

The player to provide competition for Vardy, who turned 38 earlier in January, was supposed to be Odsonne Edouard, but he does not even get on the bench as Leicester are desperate to send him back to Crystal Palace – despite the staggering £5m cost of the season's loan.

There are mitigating circumstances. Leicester's objective this season is to stay up and they are only two points below the line. With Southampton virtually adrift, Leicester, Ipswich and Wolves look to be locked in a fight for 17th. The Premier League is looking more and more like a closed shop and even previously consistent performers like Leicester will suffer if they slip up.

While the Foxes are not viewed as a typical 'newly-promoted' team because they won the Premier League title in 2016 and the FA Cup five years later, they are still fighting the same forces as other clubs who advance from the Championship. Despite the fears over top flight spending rules, the club is financially secure, but those regulations mean they cannot spend as freely as they might wish this month.

Yet many of the problems are of Leicester's own making. Vardy's contract is up at the end of the season, with a further nine players' deals due to expire in summer 2026. Recruitment has been haphazard

Ruud van Nistelrooy was encouraged to take job by Chelsea boss

The powerful Rudkin is a key ally of chairman Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha but looks like he needs help. Former boss Enzo Maresca was often frustrated by Leicester's laboured approach to recruitment and wanted the club to appoint a specialist sporting director, with greater knowledge of today's market than the current staff. It seems he had a point.

It has long appeared that Leicester players are given too much rope. In recent seasons it has become relatively normal for players to take concerns above the manager to club executives – a disastrous trend that can only undermine the boss.

While many of the squad live in the Leicester area, some have opted not to move and have long daily commutes, which is hardly conducive to creating a strong team ethic.

 

Most of the squad never took to Cooper from the start and sure enough, others were grumbling about Van Nistelrooy's methods from fairly early in his reign.

These are the same guys who thought it wise to travel to Copenhagen for a Christmas party hours after losing to Maresca's Chelsea on November 23 and to pose on the dancefloor near a sign that read 'Enzo I Miss U'. That was the day before Cooper was sacked.

The time has come for some of these players to have a look in the mirror, and the same is true of board members. A group of supporters are planning a protest ahead of the home game against Arsenal on February 15.

A dithering regime that looks increasingly out of its depth, a manager who is running out of answers and a team who seem to down tools at the first sign of adversity. No wonder Leicester fans have lost hope. It falls to those on the pitch, those in the dugout and – most pertinently – those in the boardroom to restore it.

[mowmacrefox]

See ya Ruud and thanks for trying 

[Mickyblueeyes]

BCDR AND AYEW  

[AjcW]

Oh okay, maybe he’s a problem too