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Kingpower are just gambling addicts ! They have gambled with our finances, future and our individual collective spirit. 
 

As with all gamblers the day comes when you lose everything ! 
 

Is that day today ? 

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On 16/04/2026 at 09:11, CL Fox said:

He was. There were several that were. A video went viral when we won the league slagging them off. And theres a chapter in the unbelievables highlighting the incompetence of them.


Still waiting for the video. 
 

I know it probably exists. That’s fine, think of this like a game of chess or poker. 
 

I know full well you aren’t going to post that video because it won’t have anything tangible to the position you are taking up now. 
 

I don’t like the stadium being called the king power stadium, I never have, I don’t like the way Thai products have been rammed down your face at Leicester, I never have. 
 

That video will show dissatisfaction with things like that. Not the same things but things that are similar. 
 

What we are dealing with is completely different kettle of fish, this is gross misconduct in the running  of a football club. 
 

Believe it or not I am actually trying to help you here. When it comes to getting the supporter based moblised and on side there are a lot of political and sociological factors to take into consideration if anyone wants to make a success out of it. 
 

if people are just happy to sit back and laugh at others that were wrong then working out how to things you’re as bad as they are imo. The only positive take from this dreadful position we are in is people are starting to see the light. 
 

Linda whatsername, Sue bloggs, and Derrick Singha beer might well have gone quiet on social media. It’s where we pick up the people they influenced and get them round to our way of thinking. 
 

Dissecting the entire ownership of king power is not the way, it’s not needed. You’re as bad as they are if that’s all your in this for in my eyes. This were I have an issue with @Ric Flair and Jordan, so very interested in pointing out all the failures, make excellent points about pointing out the failures. Expect credit for just turning up to protests or not attending boycotted games. When we reach out to them about actually using the platforms they have to take some proactive action, we get nothing back. As a bloke of decent intelligence it makes me question if they are actually in this for the football club or just trying to promote their own media career.
 

Im sure every supporter has a similar story, I don’t want to see the club I saw get defeated by Swindon Town at Wembley over 30 years ago, the club that made me fall in love with football, and is game that’s given me a lot in life, go bust or fall down the leagues through miss management. 
 

At the end of the day I’m getting sick of this, I’m in advanced talks with a non league club up here to become there their head of football operations and if that doesn’t work out their will be another opportunity so if Leicester go under, by pig headed arrogance and one man up ship which is now coming from both sides of the arguement, I’ll live. 

 


 

 

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6 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Let's be real here. 

 

A lot of the people that wanted KP out as early as ~2013 didn't want them out for footballing reasons. 

 

Most were fairly pathetic sorts that were having a strop because a club that had pretty iconic golden yellow kits and trim in the 90s suddenly put a slightly more metallic gold bit of flair on their kit for "cultural" reasons. 

 

Or people complaining because the stadium that was always named for a sponsor got renamed for... another sponsor. 

 

There was more than a slight uncomfortable taste of xenophobia in a lot of the early complaints about KP. 

 

I'm not levelling that accusation at everyone. Some were just the usual Against-Modern-Football types that weren't comfortable with the idea of us having undeniably corporate overloads and I can accept that. @Daggers has railed against millionaire ownership of the club since Mandaric, man's consistent and doesn't have a racist bone in his body. Probably the same for @Sol thewall Bamba

 

But almost nobody was accusing our ownership of incompetence on this kinda scale back then. For a start, we had a different owner. I said this in another thread "King Power" isn't a person, it can't run a club. Vichai was definitely inexperienced running a football club and made mistakes but he generally learned from them and improved. 

 

But he's dead. Top is a different person and hasn't got a clue. Yeah we blundered recruitment in 2016-17 but I don't think it's a huge shock that we suddenly had no idea how to react to winning the league. The real unforgivable management of the club came predominantly once we surrendered almost full control to Brendan Rodgers and let him create this mess while Rudkin and Top watched on with no clue how to do anything else. 

 

TLDR: some people were KP out before they even bought the club. That's an extremely different thing to actually thinking they're not capable of running the club as a footballing organisation. 

 

Erm...if you think so. There was an entire chapter dedicated to how lucky they'd been in the unbelievables book, written by someone I know pretty closely and I agreed with every word. I've also seen plenty of stuff on twitter and stuff. Im not sure its loads of people but its definitely more than 10 as I know most of them.

Posted
28 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:


Still waiting for the video. 
 

I know it probably exists. That’s fine, think of this like a game of chess or poker. 
 

I know full well you aren’t going to post that video because it won’t have anything tangible to the position you are taking up now. 
 

I don’t like the stadium being called the king power stadium, I never have, I don’t like the way Thai products have been rammed down your face at Leicester, I never have. 
 

That video will show dissatisfaction with things like that. Not the same things but things that are similar. 
 

What we are dealing with is completely different kettle of fish, this is gross misconduct in the running  of a football club. 
 

Believe it or not I am actually trying to help you here. When it comes to getting the supporter based moblised and on side there are a lot of political and sociological factors to take into consideration if anyone wants to make a success out of it. 
 

if people are just happy to sit back and laugh at others that were wrong then working out how to things you’re as bad as they are imo. The only positive take from this dreadful position we are in is people are starting to see the light. 
 

Linda whatsername, Sue bloggs, and Derrick Singha beer might well have gone quiet on social media. It’s where we pick up the people they influenced and get them round to our way of thinking. 
 

Dissecting the entire ownership of king power is not the way, it’s not needed. You’re as bad as they are if that’s all your in this for in my eyes. This were I have an issue with @Ric Flair and Jordan, so very interested in pointing out all the failures, make excellent points about pointing out the failures. Expect credit for just turning up to protests or not attending boycotted games. When we reach out to them about actually using the platforms they have to take some proactive action, we get nothing back. As a bloke of decent intelligence it makes me question if they are actually in this for the football club or just trying to promote their own media career.
 

Im sure every supporter has a similar story, I don’t want to see the club I saw get defeated by Swindon Town at Wembley over 30 years ago, the club that made me fall in love with football, and is game that’s given me a lot in life, go bust or fall down the leagues through miss management. 
 

At the end of the day I’m getting sick of this, I’m in advanced talks with a non league club up here to become there their head of football operations and if that doesn’t work out their will be another opportunity so if Leicester go under, by pig headed arrogance and one man up ship which is now coming from both sides of the arguement, I’ll live. 

 


 

 

What on earth you having a pop at me for? Mind blowing.

Posted
Just now, Ric Flair said:

What on earth you having a pop at me for? Mind blowing.

How dare you have a go at a potential head of football operations of an as yet unknown non league club.

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Posted
19 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 @Daggers has railed against millionaire ownership of the club since Mandaric, man's consistent and doesn't have a racist bone in his body. Probably the same for @Sol thewall Bamba

Boy thanks for the glowing character reference.

 

This has really snowballed from me saying the protest WhatsApp group didn't really output much.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

What on earth you having a pop at me for? Mind blowing.

I directly messaged you mate about using the pod to help drive what we had done with the boycotts and the protest, you replied saying you’d been in Italy and you’d get back to me. I got nothing back from you. 
 

I believe you and Jordan may be involved with another group trying to organise actions. Fine if so, but this is half our problem we have so many different groups running in different directions it’s not going to have an effect. 

 

Think of it of less of a pop and more my way of dragging you into a productive conversation as doing it privately clearly didn’t work. 
 

 

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3 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Boy thanks for the glowing character reference.

 

This has really snowballed from me saying the protest WhatsApp group didn't really output much.


To be honest it’s a good snow ball. These are the conversations we should be having if we are going to get anything done. 
 

These aren’t personal attacks on anyone it’s about trying to get an aligned approach to what we are doing. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Boy thanks for the glowing character reference.

 

This has really snowballed from me saying the protest WhatsApp group didn't really output much.


I think I’ve made it very clear I’m not trying to attack your character. 
 

Im sure we would both get along very well in person. And im sure @Finnegan who does know me in person would agree with that statement. 
 

The group has outputted more than anyone else and I’m sure they’d be more than happy if someone else actually did something. 
 

You can only criticise a small group of fans trying to do something if you’ve actually tried to do something yourself. 

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11 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

I directly messaged you mate about using the pod to help drive what we had done with the boycotts and the protest, you replied saying you’d been in Italy and you’d get back to me. I got nothing back from you. 
 

I believe you and Jordan may be involved with another group trying to organise actions. Fine if so, but this is half our problem we have so many different groups running in different directions it’s not going to have an effect. 

 

Think of it of less of a pop and more my way of dragging you into a productive conversation as doing it privately clearly didn’t work. 
 

 

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Posted
On 15/04/2026 at 09:51, 1884HF said:

Should be Pearson 

I mean I love the man but there is one statue we should have, and only one, and it's Wes and Ranieri lifting the trophy together 

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40 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Let's be real here. 

 

A lot of the people that wanted KP out as early as ~2013 didn't want them out for footballing reasons. 

 

Most were fairly pathetic sorts that were having a strop because a club that had pretty iconic golden yellow kits and trim in the 90s suddenly put a slightly more metallic gold bit of flair on their kit for "cultural" reasons. 

 

Or people complaining because the stadium that was always named for a sponsor got renamed for... another sponsor. 

 

There was more than a slight uncomfortable taste of xenophobia in a lot of the early complaints about KP. 

 

I'm not levelling that accusation at everyone. Some were just the usual Against-Modern-Football types that weren't comfortable with the idea of us having undeniably corporate overloads and I can accept that. @Daggers has railed against millionaire ownership of the club since Mandaric, man's consistent and doesn't have a racist bone in his body. Probably the same for @Sol thewall Bamba

 

But almost nobody was accusing our ownership of incompetence on this kinda scale back then. For a start, we had a different owner. I said this in another thread "King Power" isn't a person, it can't run a club. Vichai was definitely inexperienced running a football club and made mistakes but he generally learned from them and improved. 

 

But he's dead. Top is a different person and hasn't got a clue. Yeah we blundered recruitment in 2016-17 but I don't think it's a huge shock that we suddenly had no idea how to react to winning the league. The real unforgivable management of the club came predominantly once we surrendered almost full control to Brendan Rodgers and let him create this mess while Rudkin and Top watched on with no clue how to do anything else. 

 

TLDR: some people were KP out before they even bought the club. That's an extremely different thing to actually thinking they're not capable of running the club as a footballing organisation. 

 


Just read this in full, great post mate. 

Posted
28 minutes ago, CL Fox said:

Erm...if you think so. There was an entire chapter dedicated to how lucky they'd been in the unbelievables book, written by someone I know pretty closely and I agreed with every word. I've also seen plenty of stuff on twitter and stuff. Im not sure its loads of people but its definitely more than 10 as I know most of them.

Here's the section of the chapter in question.

 

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'All these one-nils are agony,' says Jon Holmes, a leading football agent and lifelong Leicester City fan. 'I was watching the Watford game on television and I was a bloody nervous wreck.'

 

Holmes was briefly chairman of the club in the eventful 2002/03 season that saw administration, the threat of liquidation and eventual promotion.

 

He gives a brief appraisal of Vichai and Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha, the father and son whose millions have helped transform Leicester City from Championship also-rans into Premier League title contenders.

 

'They've bunged a load of money in and you can't knock it.'

 

There have been more glowing tributes to the Srivaddhanaprabhas, who spent £39million to purchase Leicester City in 2010 and have invested over £100million in total in improving every aspect of the club, but Holmes tells it as he sees it.

 

'Nobody much from outside the club has had any football dealings with the owners,' he says. 'They keep themselves to themselves. Susan Whelan's a very capable chief executive even though she knew three parts of nothing about football when she arrived.'

 

The decision to replace Nigel Pearson with Claudio Ranieri was initially met with scepticism from large sections of the City support.

 

Shortly after Ranieri's appointment, Whelan told the assembled media: 'We don't talk about our business in the public domain every day. I am confident and sure the majority of the fans will have trusted in the judgement of the board.

 

'Claudio is a man of vast experience and knowledge. We are very pleased to have him here at the club and he is going to lead us into the next chapter of the club's history.

 

'We are very proud to have him.'

 

The decision has proven to be perfect but Holmes believes the process that led to Ranieri's arrival was unnecessarily lengthy.

 

'The owners have twice got rid of managers without any clear idea of who would replace them,' he says. 'Martin George [City chairman in the mid-1990s] always said to me you need to have two in reserve because your manager could lose eight on the trot or he could get poached.

 

'You need to have that backup plan. Twice they haven't and twice they've got away with it. With Ranieri, suddenly they hit the jackpot.

 

'A lot of successful people don't know how lucky they are.'

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24 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:


I think I’ve made it very clear I’m not trying to attack your character. 
 

Im sure we would both get along very well in person. And im sure @Finnegan who does know me in person would agree with that statement. 
 

The group has outputted more than anyone else and I’m sure they’d be more than happy if someone else actually did something. 
 

You can only criticise a small group of fans trying to do something if you’ve actually tried to do something yourself. 

I'm in the clear then, good to know.

Posted
35 minutes ago, CL Fox said:

Erm...if you think so. There was an entire chapter dedicated to how lucky they'd been in the unbelievables book, written by someone I know pretty closely and I agreed with every word. I've also seen plenty of stuff on twitter and stuff. Im not sure its loads of people but its definitely more than 10 as I know most of them.

I mean the odds were 5000/1 for a reason, any owners, any manager, any team to win the title from literally nowhere (we'd spent 1 of the previous 11 years in the top flight and were rock bottom for 75% of it) requires a huge amount of luck. The bigger question is incompetence and no one could seriously claim they were incompetent under Vichai. He wasn't infallible, he made plenty of mistakes but no company of any sort gets 100% of decisions right, success comes from recognizing where you've errored and course correcting - Vichai did, Aiyawatt hasn't and has doubled down instead.

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Just now, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I'm in the clear then, good to know.

 

The difference between you and me, and this post highlights it perfectly. 
 

We both love the football club. 
 

I'm trying to be pragmatic. 
 

You are being passive aggressive , overly reflect and sarcastic
 

My pragmatist approach will beat your condescending tones when it comes getting people on board and actually doing something about saving this club any day of the week. 

It’s literally already been proved. No one has done more than that group to take action, we have nowhere near the amount of political clout the foxes trust, union fs, or the podcasts do. 
 

To me it seems to go far deeper than just King power, and I will attack your character slightly now because of your above post (not safe after all 😂) . You are coming across, through our various conversations over the last few months,  as someone who is very upset with their own life and wants to question authority figures or people achieving more than they could ever do themselves in general. This may well not be the case but that’s how I’m seeing you. 
 

The thing I see in you is, and I do pay attention to your posts because you talk a lot of sense especially to do with the footballing side of the business, just let all this pre Top stuff go. 
 

we (and I’m not talking about the group here, all anti KP supporters) have worked our bollocks off to get the media and parts of our pro king power fan base to start seeing the truth and know for some reason we are feeling the need to double down on it, we don’t need to do that. People are starting to realise. We will just push people further away if we do and take the attitude of “haha you idiots” 

 

I have a habit of coming across as patronising even when I don’t mean to be so if this comes across in the wrong way please take it in the right tone. There’s a lot in you, one of the reason our group worked is because we had discussions like this, we all need to check our ego’s out if we are going to get anywhere. I was intially supposed to do the interview with radio Leicester before Ollie did it because it was a last minute thing and I got stuck at Sheffield station. We all poured ideas into his head, he had his own views with it and they way they were delivered was awesome. I don’t think the boycott would have worked anywhere near as well as it did without that interview being done correctly. He did it better than I could so it’s a win all around. We need to check our ego’s out if we are going to do anything about this.
 

 

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4 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

The difference between you and me, and this post highlights it perfectly. 
 

We both love the football club. 
 

I'm trying to be pragmatic. 
 

You are being passive aggressive , overly reflect and sarcastic
 

My pragmatist approach will beat your condescending tones when it comes getting people on board and actually doing something about saving this club any day of the week. 

It’s literally already been proved. No one has done more than that group to take action, we have nowhere near the amount of political clout the foxes trust, union fs, or the podcasts do. 
 

To me it seems to go far deeper than just King power, and I will attack your character slightly now because of your above post (not safe after all 😂) . You are coming across, through our various conversations over the last few months,  as someone who is very upset with their own life and wants to question authority figures or people achieving more than they could ever do themselves in general. This may well not be the case but that’s how I’m seeing you. 
 

The thing I see in you is, and I do pay attention to your posts because you talk a lot of sense especially to do with the footballing side of the business, just let all this pre Top stuff go. 
 

we (and I’m not talking about the group here, all anti KP supporters) have worked our bollocks off to get the media and parts of our pro king power fan base to start seeing the truth and know for some reason we are feeling the need to double down on it, we don’t need to do that. People are starting to realise. We will just push people further away if we do and take the attitude of “haha you idiots” 

 

I have a habit of coming across as patronising even when I don’t mean to be so if this comes across in the wrong way please take it in the right tone. There’s a lot in you, one of the reason our group worked is because we had discussions like this, we all need to check our ego’s out if we are going to get anywhere. I was intially supposed to do the interview with radio Leicester before Ollie did it because it was a last minute thing and I got stuck at Sheffield station. We all poured ideas into his head, he had his own views with it and they way they were delivered was awesome. I don’t think the boycott would have worked anywhere near as well as it did without that interview being done correctly. He did it better than I could so it’s a win all around. We need to check our ego’s out if we are going to do anything about this.

To be completely honest man I think you had your nose put of joint when I said I don't think the protest chat resulted in much and you've looked to clip me one back. On reflection that probably wasn't needed from me because I know a couple of lads personally involved in the organisation of the marches and I also know from 13 years of involvement in UFS that when someone criticises something you're involved in on here it's easy to react to it.

 

So I'm more than happy to stop the back and forth because as you say it's not really helping anything. I'll message you something I was working on for the protest marches (was trying for QPR but didn't get it done on time).

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Manwell rolling back the years to when he angered Alan Sheehan so much that he came on here to offer him a straightener. Respect the craft. Some serious windmilling today, I doft my cap.

 

Come on our pod and we can get the ball rolling on an aligned message to our fans.

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Posted
14 minutes ago, SilverFox said:

A little bit of main character syndrome on display in this thread. 


Let me ask you this and I am going to come off this forum for a few days after this as it’s getting frustrating. 

 

I’ve been on here for the best part of 25 years, you’ll see my posting activity was at it lowest when we were winning the league. Finishing 5th etc, Because I’m happy with that. 
 

The people I have actually worked in the group with will confirm I will back down and take feedback. 
 

TLDR I am mouthing off for one reason and one reason only, I view the narrative of trying to blame king powers entire tenure on our problems is highly dangerous for sociological and political reasons. 
 

listen if you want don’t if you don’t want to. I live in Sheffield and tbh if this club goes out of business because of a bad owner and the collective **** ups by the fan base to deal with it I can live with that. Just remember if we do get a winding up order there’s very few of us who can say we did something to try and prevent it.

Posted
15 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:


Let me ask you this and I am going to come off this forum for a few days after this as it’s getting frustrating. 

 

I’ve been on here for the best part of 25 years, you’ll see my posting activity was at it lowest when we were winning the league. Finishing 5th etc, Because I’m happy with that. 
 

The people I have actually worked in the group with will confirm I will back down and take feedback. 
 

TLDR I am mouthing off for one reason and one reason only, I view the narrative of trying to blame king powers entire tenure on our problems is highly dangerous for sociological and political reasons. 
 

listen if you want don’t if you don’t want to. I live in Sheffield and tbh if this club goes out of business because of a bad owner and the collective **** ups by the fan base to deal with it I can live with that. Just remember if we do get a winding up order there’s very few of us who can say we did something to try and prevent it.

I agree with you. 
 

This iteration of King Power is not the same King power as it was under Vichai, and it is clearly post Vichai that the problems have really accelerated.

 

It’s impossible to say where we would be had he not passed away, but theoretically we can say we probably wouldn’t be where we are now. Vichai made mistakes, but the key difference between him and Top, was he has the foresight, mindset and business experience to make the necessary changes. 
 

Top has inherited something he took for granted, and frankly hasn’t got a clue how to run, he’s surrounded himself incompetent people who seem to stick, and the good people see to go. 
 

I agree with you regarding the fan base to, we have an opportunity to collectively make change, and we’re not…. If we get wound up it’s as much on the collective fan base as it is Top. There should be 30k stood outside of that main entrance on match days making their feelings known, but there isn’t enough people who care enough/properly understand the situation we’re in.  
 

I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said. 

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1 hour ago, Halfsy said:


What on earth are you on about?

Why would I expect credit for turning up to protests or boycotting games? I've been going down City with my old man for the best part of 30 years and now neither of us do because of this ownership.

You've never reached out to me and i'm not part of any other group arranging protests. I went to the first one and I was working for the second, not that I have to justify myself to someone who comes on here and says they've got an issue when i've got no idea who you are.

I didn't post on here for over seven years until the other week, when Jake was getting personal abuse.

Why would I feel the need to promote my own media career by highlighting the failures of the football club? Makes absolutely no sense.

I didn’t reach out to you Jordan because I don’t know you. I reached out to Ric because myself and Ric have been in on here for a long time, often have similar views, and I have huge respect for him. That said a lot of our fans ask me for transparency on why things aren’t getting done between the various groups who want change at the club, and if you have the bollocks to reply to this one way or another hopefully they’ll see it. 
 

It benefits your media career because people listen to what you say, I enjoy what you say,  if people listen you you’ll get more opportunities, and fair ****s to you for it I can’t fault you. And I will apologise slightly for putting it the way I have but I’m trying to get you to come to the table which is what I’ve managed. In public, where everyone can see your reaction. 

 

there are people trying to do things on the ground and they need a group like the BSLB to play its part, in a joined up effort, to get king power out of our club. And Have a joined up strategic narrative to get king power out of our club. If that’s your intention and not your media career let’s prove it and get something together so we can help progress that as best we can. 

 

Without wishing to sound like an extra from the godfather it’s nothing personal it’s strictly business. No one wants to see our club die on its arse and it’s only people with capabilities that can actually, attempt, we may fail but at least attempt, to do something about it 
 


 

 

 


 

 

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