Villa away (Post match) 2-1 loss

[Parafox]

1 hour ago, Walshie is God said:

With a bit of help from ayew

 

When Ayew stands there with his arms outstretched, gesturing to Justin after the goal, as if to say WTF were you doing, you know it's really bad,

[StanSP]

46 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Just seen Mav's absolutely honking miss and he probably should have given away a pen.

I'm glad we agree on a penalty call for once

 

[CrazyKopCorner]

49 minutes ago, Levi Port said:

What was the reaction like from the away end after the game ? Seemed loud during the game from my coverage 

Pretty resigned. 

 

The support was far better than the team in my view today 

[Levi Port]

2 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

He's our best defender by a country mile - the rest are a shambles (although to be fair I thought Luke Thomas stuck to his task pretty manfully today). 

Absolutely agree with both, there’s a player in Thomas also, I’m not sure why he’s fallen so far from that volley away at United but here we are  

[Trent Steel]

We either sign 4 or 5 new players or we are down. Doesn't matter who the manager is...

[iann1982]

There's a lot of positives from today for me. We're looking like a much more cohesive unit as a team, when in and out of possession and there's been improvements in each of the last 3 games.

 

The second goal shouldn't have happened, player under pressure - it happens.

 

These were 3 tough games, we've got some easier ones coming up and that'll be the real test. If we play like a cohesive team we'll be fine

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Vazman said:

Which Match / Matches do you see us winning? 

I take a £100 from you as well 

[trooky]

10 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I'm glad we agree on a penalty call for once

 

Undone by two individual defensive mistakes yet again. 

[FoxLee]

I'm probably going to receive absolute pelters on the back of this, but I'm not going to overreact like quite a few on here. Thankfully I have the ability to not act on emotion! 

 

I thought we played well today. As I said in the match thread, in the first half we defended resolutely and with discipline. All units had good distances between them and we encouraged Villa to play into wide areas where we were, for the most part, able to nullify them. 

 

Second half, all we had to do was maintain that discipline and shape. Unfortunately, a poor defensive header from Vesty coupled with Barkley being on his own at the edge of the box resulted in us falling behind. 

 

The second goal was poor decision making from JJ. Yes, Ayew could have used his body better to protect the ball, but in all honesty, most players would have by passed him and just dinked it forward into the channel. 

 

Those frustrated that we don't offer anything going forward. I'm afraid you cant have it both ways. Certainly not with our current crop of players.

 

The rate we concede goals is staggering, so the first job is to try and set us up to be hard to beat, and again, we did a reasonable job of that today. Yes I know, they still scored two, but both came from avoidable errors and there is nothing the manager can do about that. I stand by that the set up by Ruud was the correct one. 

 

We cannot play open and free flowing football. Its completely unrealistic to expect us too. We have to do all we can to stay in games for as long as possible and hope for an opportunity as the minutes wear on and the oppo try to push forward themselves. 

 

Games against Villa and the like are not "for the taking", especially away from home. We set ourselves up to frustrate with the HOPE of picking up a sh1tty point or three if we're lucky.

 

If my maths are any good, we still have 50 odd points to play for. So not all hope has gone. With the right additions (which is another matter all together), I'm confident we will pick up the points necessary to stay within touching distance of survival. 

 

Yes, it's all very frustrating, but what Ruud is doing is right. All eyes are now on our recruitment over the next few weeks. 

 

 

[Nolucklcfc]

We just aren’t a premier league side. 

[UniFox21]

We're basically a player or two off being lower mid table. 

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Another loss

 

getting bored now, something needs to change

[J. James]

2 hours ago, phoneticerror said:

I hate to say it, but I think we might actually be in a better position with Cooper.

Well our wise owner and directors have a real talent for making the wrong decisions, so sacking the ugly, boring man who may just have kept us up for a pretty face is par for the course.

Frankly us and Soton properly deserve to go down.

[Pliskin]

My cousin is a Villain, he reckons we defended well, no one has frustrated them like that at Villa park other than Forest apparently. His opinion is we’re a couple of players short of being okay. He said the same about Justin throwing the point away. 

[Paninistickers]

15 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

We're basically a player or two off being lower mid table. 

One's sat on the bench though

[oz was my hero]

2 hours ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said:

That team/squad is championship standard, really poor summer window signing players we didn’t need when ££ was tight.

Im loathe to blame RVN because of the above but we are arguably worse than we were under Cooper. 
It’s just a mess from top to bottom. 

I have said all season , I don't think this squad is as good as last seasons in the championship.  

[Beliall]

literally the second i started thinking we could get something out of this game, justin happened. what the **** dude. come on

[phoneticerror]

29 minutes ago, J. James said:

Well our wise owner and directors have a real talent for making the wrong decisions, so sacking the ugly, boring man who may just have kept us up for a pretty face is par for the course.

Frankly us and Soton properly deserve to go down.

Top apparently had a massive hard on for Ruud in the summer. So as soon as he became available, Steveo got the axe.

[phoneticerror]

28 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

My cousin is a Villain, he reckons we defended well, no one has frustrated them like that at Villa park other than Forest apparently. His opinion is we’re a couple of players short of being okay. He said the same about Justin throwing the point away. 

The problem is the January market is hugely in favour of the seller. It’s doubtful we’ll get everything we need in this window.

[Paninistickers]

8 minutes ago, oz was my hero said:

I have said all season , I don't think this squad is as good as last seasons in the championship.  

Agree. Ward, Coady and Luke Thomas made 15 appearances or so versus zero last season. 

 

Vardy wasn't a regular last season, more or less ever present this season. 

 

BdcR and Ayew instead of Abdul. Skipp instead of KDH. Eduardo over Kels. 

 

It's been a disastrous season. Very very few teams go up, spend money to get significantly worse

[LVFox]

Stayed nicely in the game, just not good enough in both boxes again. This is massively a quality issue. Feel like Ruud is actually doing a good job with what he has.

[phoneticerror]

1 hour ago, The Doctor said:

read again: Iversen has not played in six months and was the previous managers (and if we're honest Enzo too given the two keeper benches) 4th choice. He was not getting picked by any manager ahead of Ward. And again, since you seem to be unable to pay attention to the actual discussion: COOPER. WAS. PICKING. WARD. AS. HIS. SECOND. CHOICE. SO. WOULD. HAVE. PLAYED. HIM. IF. MADS. WAS. INJURED.

Okay, before you turn into a complete super *****, maybe you haven’t read what I said clearly. Maybe read that again.

 

WHY. WOULD. WARD. STILL. BE. FIRST. CHOICE. AFTER. NEWCASTLE??

 

DOES. THAT. MAKE. MORE. SENSE. NOW???

 

 

[lcfcsnow]

4 minutes ago, phoneticerror said:

The problem is the January market is hugely in favour of the seller. It’s doubtful we’ll get everything we need in this window.

Unless its us, we can never shift anyone

[Chown]

Should have stuck with Cooper. He wasn’t perfect but had a championship squad averaging not far off a point a game. Those calling for him to be fired will no doubt have been calling for Maresca’s head last season also.

[phoneticerror]

Just now, lcfcsnow said:

Unless its us, we can never shift anyone

That’s because we don’t have anything for sale that would strengthen a squad.