Foxes Trust latest statement!

[blabyboy]

The Club Representatives and the Supporter Representatives will each appoint a chair for each FAB meeting. For the Football Club, this role will be taken up by Chief Executive, Susan Whelan.
Supporters will be represented by one member of the Foxes Trust, two elected members of the current FCC and three independent supporters following a recruitment process

 

So the Chair from FT can be different for each meeting.. if the Trust willed it so.

 

Given there are 3FCC's does the membership of the FAB also rotate within those 3 groups of so there is a fair representation?

[Foxes_Trust]

15 minutes ago, blabyboy said:

The Club Representatives and the Supporter Representatives will each appoint a chair for each FAB meeting. For the Football Club, this role will be taken up by Chief Executive, Susan Whelan.
Supporters will be represented by one member of the Foxes Trust, two elected members of the current FCC and three independent supporters following a recruitment process

 

So the Chair from FT can be different for each meeting.. if the Trust willed it so.

 

Given there are 3FCC's does the membership of the FAB also rotate within those 3 groups of so there is a fair representation?

The minutes of the first FAB meeting details all the fan representatives (who all serve for 3 years) and who was elected as Co Chair of the FAB and to Chair each FCC Working Group (all chair roles are for the first year)

 

https://assets.ctfassets.net/0wcpt07qzvlh/6t3siNTTgPa9LXlLoP8mwr/b93130f82bc33121d96496681b3762a1/Fan-Advisory-Board-Meeting-One-.pdf

[davieG]

13 minutes ago, Foxes_Trust said:

The minutes of the first FAB meeting details all the fan representatives (who all serve for 3 years) and who was elected as Co Chair of the FAB and to Chair each FCC Working Group (all chair roles are for the first year)

 

https://assets.ctfassets.net/0wcpt07qzvlh/6t3siNTTgPa9LXlLoP8mwr/b93130f82bc33121d96496681b3762a1/Fan-Advisory-Board-Meeting-One-.pdf

So that’s from October? 
 

A lot of corporate jargon in that and what has been carried out but not a lot on outcomes. 
 

As Foxes Trust member I can’t say I’m overly impressed. Much ado about nothing and a Corporate talking shop spring to mind. 

[RYM]

35 minutes ago, Foxes_Trust said:

The minutes of the first FAB meeting details all the fan representatives (who all serve for 3 years) and who was elected as Co Chair of the FAB and to Chair each FCC Working Group (all chair roles are for the first year)

 

https://assets.ctfassets.net/0wcpt07qzvlh/6t3siNTTgPa9LXlLoP8mwr/b93130f82bc33121d96496681b3762a1/Fan-Advisory-Board-Meeting-One-.pdf

Ah the low hanging fruit from the thread has been picked.....

 

Loads more to get stuck into in this thread. I've sent an email too.

[UniFox21]

Feels a touch disappointing the contents of the meetings with the FAB have to stay confidential. An initiative to bring fans closer to the club seems to have added just another layer of protecting information 

[Foxes_Trust]

22 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Feels a touch disappointing the contents of the meetings with the FAB have to stay confidential. An initiative to bring fans closer to the club seems to have added just another layer of protecting information 

Minutes of the scheduled FAB meetings are published, the minutes of the second meeting are below

 

https://assets.ctfassets.net/0wcpt07qzvlh/4ee2OaWdzan9smO3ggow3I/8a18a6de1a43ac9b067f5e3f8d6cf0f2/FAB_Meeting_2_Notes.pdf

 

There will always be elements of each meeting that will remain confidential.

 

The current set of recent meetings are unscheduled, with the initial meeting held at the request of the FAB fan reps and as the Trust had also requested a meeting, the Trust Co-Chairs & the FAB fan reps met the club together.

 

This has now turned into a series of meetings at the clubs request.

 

The next formal FAB meeting will be held on Weds March 5th, with minutes subsequently published.

 

The minutes are fairly hard to find on the clubs website, therefore the Trust posts a website article, on social media & message boards when each set of minutes are published 

 

 

 

 

[UniFox21]

17 minutes ago, Foxes_Trust said:

Minutes of the scheduled FAB meetings are published, the minutes of the second meeting are below

 

https://assets.ctfassets.net/0wcpt07qzvlh/4ee2OaWdzan9smO3ggow3I/8a18a6de1a43ac9b067f5e3f8d6cf0f2/FAB_Meeting_2_Notes.pdf

 

There will always be elements of each meeting that will remain confidential.

 

The current set of recent meetings are unscheduled, with the initial meeting held at the request of the FAB fan reps and as the Trust had also requested a meeting, the Trust Co-Chairs & the FAB fan reps met the club together.

 

This has now turned into a series of meetings at the clubs request.

 

The next formal FAB meeting will be held on Weds March 5th, with minutes subsequently published.

 

The minutes are fairly hard to find on the clubs website, therefore the Trust posts a website article, on social media & message boards when each set of minutes are published

 

Appreciate the links and information about the meetings there.

 

But, why do aspects need to remain confidential? If it's a meeting with those elected to represent the fans, surely the fans have a right to know what's been discussed?

[Foxes_Trust]

4 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Appreciate the links and information about the meetings there.

 

But, why do aspects need to remain confidential? If it's a meeting with those elected to represent the fans, surely the fans have a right to know what's been discussed?

It’s the same for every Fans Advisory Board in the Premier League, the published minutes detail an overview of discussions, but not the full details.

 

[Eskay]

@Foxes_Trust are able to offer any sort of indication on how you felt when you walked away from last week's meeting with the club? 

Assuming you asked all the questions on our mind and stressed that you're worried about the lack of direction at the club. 

 

Did you walk away feeling positive? 

 

Like the post if you did...blink twice if you're more worried than ever etc etc ....

[UniFox21]

2 minutes ago, Foxes_Trust said:

It’s the same for every Fans Advisory Board in the Premier League, the published minutes detail an overview of discussions, but not the full details.

 

Once again appreciate the insight, but why? Why is the confidentiality needed? Why can't the context and information discussed be shared? 

 

If that's just the system is then it's one of them, but feels so counterintuitive to create a system to have openness and transparency on club decisions, to them lock it behind confidentiality 

[RYM]

18 minutes ago, Foxes_Trust said:

It’s the same for every Fans Advisory Board in the Premier League, the published minutes detail an overview of discussions, but not the full details.

 

For the avoidance of doubt the club and the FAB could decide to publish everything or even broadcast meetings if they wished. It’s a conscious decision not to.

 

Just because “other clubs” do things one way there are no regulations to stop another club doing something different should all parties agree that’s in the best interest of the wider fan base.

[UniFox21]

10 minutes ago, RYM said:

For the avoidance of doubt the club and the FAB could decide to publish everything or even broadcast meetings if they wished. It’s a conscious decision not to.

 

Just because “other clubs” do things one way there are no regulations to stop another club doing something different should all parties agree that’s in the best interest of the wider fan base.

This was the info I was after. 

The confidentiality being self imposed makes the system more of a mockery. 

[ozvaldo]

Who on here is part of the ‘Foxes Trust’? 
 

Can any of you step up and actually provide some context?  Or are you all wrapped around Susan’s little finger? 
 

For me, the ‘Foxes Trust’ is part of the problem. It’s all just nothingness bollocks. 

[davieG]

55 minutes ago, Foxes_Trust said:

It’s the same for every Fans Advisory Board in the Premier League, the published minutes detail an overview of discussions, but not the full details.

 

Same by choice or regulations. 

 

I'm heartily sick of a lot of stuff coming out of LCFC citing that's what other clubs do. So what!   Maybe their fans are unhappy about these things.

 

We should be striving to be the best of the best not just follow other clubs.

 

It's so childish and unprofessional. 

 

 

[RYM]

6 minutes ago, davieG said:

Same by choice or regulations. 

 

I'm heartily sick of a lot of stuff coming out of LCFC citing that's what other clubs do. So what!   Maybe their fans are unhappy about these things.

 

We should be striving to be the best of the best not just follow other clubs.

 

It's so childish and unprofessional. 

 

 

Choice mate.

 

FAB’s can be as flexible as they want to be.

The comms director is on the FAB and it’s his baby to cradle.

The trust accepted all the terms the club finally set so now have to play by the rules for 3 years I think. 

 

[ramboacdc]

"Honey wake up. The latest Foxes Trust shitshow has just dropped.."

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, ozvaldo said:

Who on here is part of the ‘Foxes Trust’? 
 

Can any of you step up and actually provide some context?  Or are you all wrapped around Susan’s little finger? 
 

For me, the ‘Foxes Trust’ is part of the problem. It’s all just nothingness bollocks. 

As a member of the board, the conversations started because the Trust cited huge concern with the direction of the club post Fulham. Notably the crowd turned in various parts of the stadium. Pretty much the same consistent concerns shared on here daily. 

[FOTS]

Just reading the minutes from the November meeting - seems like two hours of discussion on LCFC culture was centred around grassing on fellow fans

 

 

[Sly]

They’re as pointless today, as they were one, three, five and ten years ago. 

[Footballwipe]

34 minutes ago, Sly said:

They’re as pointless today, as they were one, three, five and ten years ago. 

Exactly. And the pushback on here is "what are you doing about it" and it's quite tiring, because lots have done admirable things to try and do something about it, but they're still as pathetic and legless as ever.

 

Nothing wrong with being a club shill if you're just honest about it. The supporters club basically are, the Trust should've just dropped the pretence ages ago.

 

Confidential meetings where we learn nothing, mealy mouthed statements and the spin that they're making an impact. As competent as the club they claim to be holding to account.

[The Fosse Way]

You can’t expect any supporters’ group with minimal backing from the fanbase to start getting regular wins out of a club that doesn’t listen, that isn’t interested in being a trailblazer in anything, that treats fan engagement like a tickbox exercise.

 

It’s not the Trust’s decision to make meeting content confidential. We know that dealing with the club is a nightmare and often seems pointless.

I do often wonder what the point of the Trust is, not because of the Trust but because of the club. How do you have any kind of influence over an organisation that treats you with disdain? But you can’t just give up either.

 

For that reason, the Trust clearly needs a win as much as the team does, to justify itself and to show it’s worth reforming in the first place. And it’s still going to sound weak sometimes because it’s one of these organisations where you need sign-off to do anything, so I assume people get nervous and stuff gets watered down before it goes out.

 

You can applaud Union FS statements for strongly condemning the club. But the club is taking the piss out of them on a regular basis, posting photos of their section on social media to try and make the ground look like the Bombonera while simultaneously banning their members without evidence of any offence being committed.
 

Surely hundreds if not thousands of people are furious about stuff like that. Not everyone, or even the majority of fans maybe, but still a lot of people. And that fury should be channelled into strengthening the collective voice of the Trust, Union FS and anything else that comes along like Project Reset if that sticks around, rather than constantly laying into the Trust at the exact time we’ve started to try to drag it into the 21st century.

 

That’s going to take a bit of time, just as Project Reset didn’t look like the Spurs protests today. The Trust badly needs a rebrand in my opinion, as I still associate even that logo with an antiquated way of doing things - which hopefully will change with the new co-chairs, board members and doubled membership numbers. But let’s keep plugging away.

[blabyboy]

5 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

The minutes of the first FAB meeting details all the fan representatives (who all serve for 3 years) and who was elected as Co Chair of the FAB and to Chair each FCC Working Group (all chair roles are for the first year)

 

https://assets.ctfassets.net/0wcpt07qzvlh/6t3siNTTgPa9LXlLoP8mwr/b93130f82bc33121d96496681b3762a1/Fan-Advisory-Board-Meeting-One-.pdf

Thank you. And that is then codified into the rules? Or was just agreed as a quorum of that meeting?

 

Not looking to go down EFL embarrassment here. Just want to make sure it's all square.

Edited 16 February by blabyboy

[justfoxes]

2 hours ago, FOTS said:

Just reading the minutes from the November meeting - seems like two hours of discussion on LCFC culture was centred around grassing on fellow fans

 

 

Some of the stewards at the KP and away are so fuching rude, last Saturday V ARSENHOLE one even pushed me and said move on when me and the lad were clapping the team fuching Tw@ in a fuching orange high Vis Cnut , ffs this club has become toxic for the fans it’s like they don’t give a schitt about the ones who buy season tickets year in year out even buy the overpriced piss they call beer which I haven’t done since they got rid of speckled hen the fuchers how fuching dare they !! 
But seriously some of the contracted stewards are just rude thugs and after talking to some fellow fans who like me have had enough of the Bullschitt coming from this club especially with their choice of wanna be high Vis warrior Thug another superb choice of hiring from KP & LCFC for the fans Vichai if you were still here this would not be happening!!

 

[Tommy G]

3 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

As a member of the board, the conversations started because the Trust cited huge concern with the direction of the club post Fulham. Notably the crowd turned in various parts of the stadium. Pretty much the same consistent concerns shared on here daily. 

But that doesn’t answer his question?

 

There is zero detail here. 

[blabyboy]

One for @Foxes_Trust

Did Mr Ian Bason sign the NDA for himself or as the Foxes Trust?