Trust Welcomes Season Ticket Price Freeze but Urges Consultation with Supporters on Match Day Pricing

[Clogger_]

1 minute ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Lots of fans in this thread wanting the club to announce a price reduction for a relegation that, although we as fans know is coming, the club cannot themselves take as given publicly.

 

Have you been in touch with the club to ask for this price reduction? Do you believe it to be realistic prospect or is it just easy to kick the Trust when it’s trying to secure something rather than nothing?

 

If we stay up (unlikely I know - but certainly wasn’t quite so unlikely when the Trust opened this dialogue with the club), the Trust has secured a freeze where other clubs are whacking prices up. If we go down, the club was never going to reduce prices, and that’s why they’re announcing things now rather than waiting.

 

The Trust is putting pressure on the club to reduce match day prices with a relegation - which is where the real disgraceful pricing is seen most - but it’s easier to ignore that and shout and moan without doing anything to actually impact of course…

Word salad. Instead of writing 'woe is me' messages, why not reflect on FTs record of failing to secure any meaningful wins for the fanbase? 

[Freeman's Wharfer]

Just now, Clogger_ said:

Word salad. Instead of writing 'woe is me' messages, why not reflect on FTs record of failing to secure any meaningful wins for the fanbase? 

You seem to be mistaking me for someone who wasn’t a leading part in the Foxes Trust Reform campaign.

 

It can’t be reformed if all people do is throw stones from distance and fail to acknowledge even any slight bit of progress though, can it?

 

If that’s word salad then so be it. If you’ve got some examples of how you’ve asked the club to reduce prices then send it my way. Equally if you’d like to apply your energy to trying to change the Trust like me and @CosbehFox then we’d welcome your energy doing something with us.

[Sly]

The first sign of acknowledgment is acceptance.

 

They need to understand we are going to get relegated, as they’ve done nothing to prevent it. 
 

With that in mind, ticket prices, merchandise, food etc should be set at a prices to maximise revenue.  It’s a simple case of modelling with a footfall of “X”, you’ll make this amount. 
 

In a simple world, by freezing prices, they’re already making more money due to the extra games. 
 

They could have played a PR masterclass by announcing a ticket price reduction, then in the background raised the price of food and look to increase merchandise sales. 
 

However we have the commercial acumen, PR and marketing ability of a wooden spoon so we’ve got the trust releasing a statement like this is a brilliant thing.

 

SPOILER - IT ISNT! 

[Robo61]

10 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

Regardless of the people on the board, their achievements and their capabilities, it can only change in personnel if people want to change it.
 

The board is the board because the fanbase hasn’t been willing to actually do anything about it 

But I want to be able to abuse and criticise from the sidelines 😉

[CosbehFox]

8 hours ago, Bert said:

There’s plenty of people that want to do something about it. But cliques, closed books and people not wanting to damage their “relationship” with the club stops this. 
 

The club first and foremost want, and are having it their way or no way which is just plain to see. Anyone that goes against the grain they don’t want. They’re even sending letters out to people they’ve chose to ban telling them they cannot say anything derogatory about the club on social media etc. 

 

This once wonderful football club is being ran into the ground by the powers that be, everyone can see it but their global brand/expansion whatever they think they’re building is more important to them. 
 

The failings of the board over the last 4 years is absolute catastrophic. The ineptitude and consistency in failing to correct their mistakes is absolutely staggering. 

You’ll have to remind me then because in terms of fans groups:- 

 

- The Trust has never had a contested election for board roles bevauae people haven’t put themselves up for it. Anyone can whose a member can raise their hand up 
 

- Union FS have struggled to grow from their initial numbers and often find themselves now the target of anger by some of the fans. Often a lone voice in the ground. 

 

- Project Reset has come to a grinding halt with no one wanting to take off the hands of the original person who organised it.

 

- No other fan group during the four years has formed. One guy on here tried with the Fosse Collective but that disappeared very quickly. 
 

- Less than 2,000 answered a safe standing survey by the club 
 

There is quite rightly a lot of anger amongst the fanbase and there’s a lot of good points made and good contributions on here 
 

But in terms of action? Minimal. If we want to hold the club to attention, as a fanbase it requires uniting and action.

Edited 17 March by CosbehFox

[Bert]

7 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

You’ll have to remind me then because in terms of fans groups:- 

 

- The Trust has never had a contested election for board roles bevauae people haven’t put themselves up for it. Anyone can whose a member can raise their hand up 
 

- Union FS have struggled to grow from their initial numbers and often find themselves now the target of anger by some of the fans. Often a lone voice in the ground. 

 

- Project Reset has come to a grinding halt with no one wanting to take off the hands of the original person who organised it.

 

- No other fan group during the four years has formed. One guy on here tried with the Fosse Collective but that disappeared very quickly. 
 

- Less than 2,000 answered a safe standing survey by the club 
 

There is quite rightly a lot of anger amongst the fanbase and there’s a lot of good points made and good contributions on here 
 

But in terms of action? Minimal. If we want to hold the club to attention, as a fanbase it requires uniting and action.

A big reason for “terms of action” being minimal is that if you say something the club doesn’t like or want to see, they’ll just ban you. 

[CosbehFox]

7 minutes ago, Bert said:

A big reason for “terms of action” being minimal is that if you say something the club doesn’t like or want to see, they’ll just ban you. 

Sorry I think that’s just an excuse.
 

If enough fans mobilised in their thousands, the club couldn’t ban everyone.
 

As along as the numbers are a small minority, they can ban etc. 

 

EDIT: Btw you can use such coward actions by the club to your benefit, but we can’t even unite on people getting together to say I’ve been banned etc etc. 

Edited 17 March by CosbehFox

[Tommy G]

Think the 5 of us who have had season tickets together since 2007 are not renewing next season. Quite shocking it's come to this - I can't remember a season where there is literally no excitement for the follow on season. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

10 hours ago, Bert said:

There’s plenty of people that want to do something about it. But cliques, closed books and people not wanting to damage their “relationship” with the club stops this.

Sorry but this is tripe. 

 

If people are THAT bothered and don't feel aligned with the existing groups (fair enough because there's a big dead spot between UFS and the Trust for example), there's absolutely nothing stopping people from forming new groups and putting the pressure on. 

 

But it hasn't happened because they aren't. Since UFS formed 12 years ago and ignoring the growth in the interim, there have been three people that have driven change with the Trust and Pride formed (and basically became an arm of the club).

 

And the 99.9% of the rest of the fanbase just made excuses. 

[Philkeavo]

Regret the day I signed up to the @Foxes_Trust. Feels like I’ve been sold a lie. You promised to be a strong voice of the fan base but you’ve been nothing but a useful idiot(s) for the disgraceful and incompetent King Power regime.
 

Rome is literally burning and you guys seemingly to want to take credit for influencing /congratulate KPFC for freezing prices. Well done 👏 bravo 👏.

 

Can I have my membership fee back please. 

[The boy Linacre]

I don't mind the price freeze, have to say the digital ENFORCEMENT next season is my BIG ISSUE.

I would love to know the percentage of STH that miss at least 1 game a season, where they want the choice to pass it on to family, friend, dog etc.  And this makes it WAY harder.

"The transition to Digital Tickets – which stands to make the sale, transfer and use of tickets more efficient and more secure for supporters and the Club – continues to be shaped by your 
. Your support and understanding are hugely appreciated as we continue to modernise the matchday experience at King Power Stadium."

We are also continuing to work with the club to make it easier for season ticket holders to transfer, resell or donate their tickets when they can’t attend to minimise empty seats at games.

 

Well you're not are you, the easiest thing in the world is, "I can't go, do you want my ticket for game x, here you go"

Mind those queues at the gates, when security are explaining to a family of 4 how to use 1 phone for 4 tickets, as there is a queue of 200 behind you at 2.57pm & they continue to search everybody when they should be rushing everybody IN to the game.

 

This is about control of the movement of those tickets and MONEY, chance to sell on like last night, except Wycombe & Wrexham won't be so attractive.

[The boy Linacre]

Also “While we know things on the pitch have been disappointing this season, behind the scenes we have been working with the club to ensure fans’ experience at Leicester City beyond the football itself is improved.

Why do we all go???? 

To emotionally engage, with family and friends with passion in backing our team.  We'll be in/at the ground 2hrs max.  Watch the team. REALLY hope they do well, show positivity, perhaps play some exciting, entertaining football, to take our minds from the other more mundane, frustrating, annoying things in life for a few hours. 

The queues for drinks and food are ludricrous, and nothing is improved over time or learnt or be done better, or modelled on other clubs that do it better, even with computerised systems.

The ticket entry has been made slower and more onerous by digital ticket enforcement, its jarring now.

 

BUT the action on the pitch is reaching disappointment of truly league record breaking historical levels, losses, goal scoring, that won't be offset by improvements beyond the football, there aren't many/any that I can see.  Its about a modicum of relative football success.  

Don't sell us BS, focus and understand whats important to the fans. 

Like saying "we know things on the ship have been disappointing this voyage (Titanic), behind the scenes...they will be improved"

 

[MPH]

15 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

I see everyone has their punchbag after a bad result again 

 

There’s only one thing worse than bowing down to a failing and weak CEO.. and that’s defending those who are bowing down to a failing and weak CEO..

 

 

EDIT:  must admit, this was intended as a little more tongue in cheek than it comes across as..

 

Edited 17 March by MPH

[Bert]

3 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Sorry but this is tripe. 

 

If people are THAT bothered and don't feel aligned with the existing groups (fair enough because there's a big dead spot between UFS and the Trust for example), there's absolutely nothing stopping people from forming new groups and putting the pressure on. 

 

But it hasn't happened because they aren't. Since UFS formed 12 years ago and ignoring the growth in the interim, there have been three people that have driven change with the Trust and Pride formed (and basically became an arm of the club).

 

And the 99.9% of the rest of the fanbase just made excuses. 

I think you’ve really missed what I was getting at. 
 

The trust and pride quite specifically don’t want to ruin what they have with the club. 

[Sly]

10 hours ago, Philkeavo said:

Regret the day I signed up to the @Foxes_Trust. Feels like I’ve been sold a lie. You promised to be a strong voice of the fan base but you’ve been nothing but a useful idiot(s) for the disgraceful and incompetent King Power regime.
 

Rome is literally burning and you guys seemingly to want to take credit for influencing /congratulate KPFC for freezing prices. Well done 👏 bravo 👏.

 

Can I have my membership fee back please. 

I’d anticipated it would be like this! Hence I didn’t join. 

[Sly]

7 hours ago, Bert said:

I think you’ve really missed what I was getting at. 
 

The trust and pride quite specifically don’t want to ruin what they have with the club. 

You’re spot on @Bert

 

The club has a reputation for exiling those that oppose them. 
 

The Trust have a relationship that allows them dialogue with the club, however it’s basically like being given the freedom to talk with a Dictator. 

[Bert]

10 hours ago, Sly said:

You’re spot on @Bert

 

The club has a reputation for exiling those that oppose them. 
 

The Trust have a relationship that allows them dialogue with the club, however it’s basically like being given the freedom to talk with a Dictator. 

Exactly. The trust will never challenge the club the way it needs challenging. 

[StanSP]

21 hours ago, Philkeavo said:

Regret the day I signed up to the @Foxes_Trust. Feels like I’ve been sold a lie. You promised to be a strong voice of the fan base but you’ve been nothing but a useful idiot(s) for the disgraceful and incompetent King Power regime.
 

Rome is literally burning and you guys seemingly to want to take credit for influencing /congratulate KPFC for freezing prices. Well done 👏 bravo 👏.

 

Can I have my membership fee back please. 

That's extremely harsh

 

Change takes time and if you expect instant results or massive wins so quickly then that's your own expectation you've heightened as opposed to anything that anyone trying to reform the Trust could have done. 

 

 

[FoxesFan#1]

21 hours ago, The boy Linacre said:

I don't mind the price freeze, have to say the digital ENFORCEMENT next season is my BIG ISSUE.

I would love to know the percentage of STH that miss at least 1 game a season, where they want the choice to pass it on to family, friend, dog etc.  And this makes it WAY harder.

"The transition to Digital Tickets – which stands to make the sale, transfer and use of tickets more efficient and more secure for supporters and the Club – continues to be shaped by your 
. Your support and understanding are hugely appreciated as we continue to modernise the matchday experience at King Power Stadium."

We are also continuing to work with the club to make it easier for season ticket holders to transfer, resell or donate their tickets when they can’t attend to minimise empty seats at games.

 

Well you're not are you, the easiest thing in the world is, "I can't go, do you want my ticket for game x, here you go"

Mind those queues at the gates, when security are explaining to a family of 4 how to use 1 phone for 4 tickets, as there is a queue of 200 behind you at 2.57pm & they continue to search everybody when they should be rushing everybody IN to the game.

 

This is about control of the movement of those tickets and MONEY, chance to sell on like last night, except Wycombe & Wrexham won't be so attractive.

Exactly this, it is a control thing and it’s Premier League/big city club wide.

 

The thing they forget which could make life difficult for them is that as crowds plummet (which I hope they do) there will be less of an incentive to chain us to a digital seat.

 

If crowds go below 25k and they start to ban fans for not worshipping the strange cult for a minimum of 80% of the time (or whatever imaginary figure they make up next) then they’ll be in the ever reducing circles territory.

 

I imagine once they drop further away from the PL cult, they’ll be desperate for you/us to turn up again until they can trap us in our digital seats again when and if they ever return to the PL.

 

The thing is as the Devil tarot card shows, we can take off our chains whenever we want!  It’s us that keep them on.

[Philkeavo]

5 hours ago, StanSP said:

That's extremely harsh

 

Change takes time and if you expect instant results or massive wins so quickly then that's your own expectation you've heightened as opposed to anything that anyone trying to reform the Trust could have done. 

 

 

All opinions are welcome, aren't they? I joined over a year ago, but clearly my expectation that a supporters' group would represent its members' views and hold the club accountable for some of the most egregious failings in Premier League history was misplaced.