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Posted
9 hours ago, Greg2607 said:

I don't see an issue with it.

 

It's intended as a proof of ID for work. 

 

You currently already have to produce a birth certificate, passport or driving licence as well as proof of address to secure employment in the UK.. 

 

this would remove the need to provide those documents, you'd just provide a share code (which is how people on VISA's prove right to work in the UK currently) and it's all taken care of. 

 

the world is now digitalised. Move with the times. 

 

OR buy in to the dystopian conspiracy theories and think that this will revoke access to food and starve us all for "not complying"...

you can't work without it so that it pretty much does.

 

Also we have to consider the next stage (which is CBDC currency) digital currency as the GBP, USD collapses.

Posted
11 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

you can't work without it so that it pretty much does.

 

Also we have to consider the next stage (which is CBDC currency) digital currency as the GBP, USD collapses.

You can't work without your national insurance number either.  Or at least 1 form of photographic id.   

 

But I haven't heard anyone say that these things are designed for control. 

Posted
Just now, Greg2607 said:

You can't work without your national insurance number either.  Or at least 1 form of photographic id.   

 

But I haven't heard anyone say that these things are designed for control. 

Yup so what is the need for this then ? 

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Posted
13 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I really don't get that. Yeah, it seems convenient, but if it gets lost, stolen or hacked... that's it, that's your life gone in the blink of an eye. You are no longer you.

 

Classic putting all your eggs in one basket.

No different to the time I lost my wallet in all

honesty! 

Posted
8 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Yup so what is the need for this then ? 

Because none of those things are digitised.  If I want to employ you, you can't send me a digital copy. I have to see a physical original of those documents before I can make you a job offer. 

 

Most companies have gone paperless now, so if you need to prove your address to me, you have to download and print things out. 

 

Much better and easier to have 1 form of ID that does all these things in a digital form and is legally acceptable. 

 

 

Posted
Just now, Greg2607 said:

Because none of those things are digitised.  If I want to employ you, you can't send me a digital copy. I have to see a physical original of those documents before I can make you a job offer. 

 

Most companies have gone paperless now, so if you need to prove your address to me, you have to download and print things out. 

 

Much better and easier to have 1 form of ID that does all these things in a digital form and is legally acceptable. 

 

 

I can just show you my passport or drivers license, to be in the country you need a passport anyway ?

 

Also what about self employed ?

Posted
1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

I can just show you my passport or drivers license, to be in the country you need a passport anyway ?

 

Also what about self employed ?

Yeah you can.  So let's say the HR Function is based in Newcastle and you now need to drive to me to show.  How does that feel for you?

 

Self employed.... Well that's different, but you will need to provide details that identify yourself assuming you are setting up a legal entity. 

 

In theory, this stops you having to gather multiple.different forms of identification and proofs of addresses. 

 

It makes things easier and more streamlined. 

 

NOW......do I think this "stops the boats"? Absolutely not! But I'll tell you what, I currently MUCH prefer being able to book a doctor's appointment digitally through my NHS App than having to dial 87 times at 08:00 in the morning. 

 

We are living in a digital age...  Why wouldn't we digitise ID??? 

 

What's the main freedom that you are scared of losing and is so very sacred to you? 

Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

Yeah you can.  So let's say the HR Function is based in Newcastle and you now need to drive to me to show.  How does that feel for you?

 

Self employed.... Well that's different, but you will need to provide details that identify yourself assuming you are setting up a legal entity. 

 

In theory, this stops you having to gather multiple.different forms of identification and proofs of addresses. 

 

It makes things easier and more streamlined. 

 

NOW......do I think this "stops the boats"? Absolutely not! But I'll tell you what, I currently MUCH prefer being able to book a doctor's appointment digitally through my NHS App than having to dial 87 times at 08:00 in the morning. 

 

We are living in a digital age...  Why wouldn't we digitise ID??? 

 

What's the main freedom that you are scared of losing and is so very sacred to you? 

I can see you're point it would be easier in that sense, I just think it's the first stage of a bigger plan (call me a tin hat foil wearer all you like) but next in line is digital currency.. then what else.. we are probably talking another decade before they have full control.

 

Also all this is coming from the WEF right ? covid, digital id, digital currency all part of a bigger plan.

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Posted (edited)

I lived in the middle east and you had to have an id card, physical or digital and the system worked really well. Majority if not all live there life off there phone. If you claim to lose it etc, you can't do shit,  the way around it is to buy a cheap phone and install your digital id, takes 15 minutes.

 

Old people tend to use physical.  

 

Plus the authorities have  your details and by your name will know who your are what u look like.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

I can see you're point it would be easier in that sense, I just think it's the first stage of a bigger plan (call me a tin hat foil wearer all you like) but next in line is digital currency.. then what else.. we are probably talking another decade before they have full control.

 

Also all this is coming from the WEF right ? covid, digital id, digital currency all part of a bigger plan.

Everyone already has "digital currency".  You don't get given physical cash every month.  You probably pay for stuff via your phone or watch.

 

I appreciate that isn't a CBDC currency, but very few people are using physical cash these days. Certainly not as the main means of making payments. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Greg2607 said:

Everyone already has "digital currency".  You don't get given physical cash every month.  You probably pay for stuff via your phone or watch.

 

I appreciate that isn't a CBDC currency, but very few people are using physical cash these days. Certainly not as the main means of making payments. 

They can't stop you're employer paying you though, with CBDC they could stop it before it reaches you combined with the digital ID.

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

They can't stop you're employer paying you though, with CBDC they could stop it before it reaches you combined with the digital ID.

 

 

And why would they do that??

 

Also, they can absolutely deduct at source currently.. it's how things like the CSA operate, or where people are ordered to repay overplayed benefits, or debts. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

They can't stop you're employer paying you though, with CBDC they could stop it before it reaches you combined with the digital ID.

 

 

If you owe the government money they can take it from your wages at source, that's been possible for a long time

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Posted

Speaking as someone living in a country where the citizens all have an ID which is now also digital, and who as a non citizen by law has to carry my passport with me at all times, I'm more than a little bemused at all this paranoia bordering on hysteria 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

And why would they do that??

 

Also, they can absolutely deduct at source currently.. it's how things like the CSA operate, or where people are ordered to repay overplayed benefits, or debts. 

But they can get that wrong as they have with me recently so they could wipe my account but then its an error on there part ?

 

7 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

If you owe the government money they can take it from your wages at source, that's been possible for a long time

Not sure if that is possible if you are self employed ? I may be wrong.

 

I don't know just think it's part of a bigger plan to control people, which is not outlandish. 

Posted
49 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

Because none of those things are digitised.  If I want to employ you, you can't send me a digital copy. I have to see a physical original of those documents before I can make you a job offer. 

 

Most companies have gone paperless now, so if you need to prove your address to me, you have to download and print things out. 

 

Much better and easier to have 1 form of ID that does all these things in a digital form and is legally acceptable. 

 

 

You're lying. My employer is a huge corporation, a big company and during my employment process they accepted all my ID documents digitally including passport, NIN etc. 

It's shocking how some of you are trying to justify this breach of human rights which will result to more issues. You did the same with the vaccine passports and you failed. You're coming back now to try it again. You'll fail again miserably. 

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Posted
Just now, Fear Of The Fox said:

You're lying. My employer is a huge corporation, a big company and during my employment process they accepted all my ID documents digitally including passport, NIN etc. 

It's shocking how some of you are trying to justify this breach of human rights which will result to more issues. You did the same with the vaccine passports and you failed. You're coming back now to try it again. You'll fail again miserably. 

No, I'm not lying.  SOME companies are able to verify stuff digitally, IF they have the right software and licences. But not all of them can.  

 

I work for a 2.5bn t/o Financial Services company, as a manager in the recruitment function, and I have to see the physical copies. 

 

But sure, you know more sunshine. 

Posted
31 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Speaking as someone living in a country where the citizens all have an ID which is now also digital, and who as a non citizen by law has to carry my passport with me at all times, I'm more than a little bemused at all this paranoia bordering on hysteria 

I'm so sorry that so many of your freedom's have been removed and controlled Debs. Are you doing ok??

 

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