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kenny

kenny

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16 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

The government are legitimately to blame for stoking the fire on migrants, when completely dumb stuff like this happens - anyone with half a brain will see this as daft and a waste of money but also a bit of a storm in a tea cup in the grand scheme of things but why are we letting stuff like this happen - it will just give the union jack brigade ammunition. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2j3regpdno

 

It isn't on the government of the day to be dealing with micro decisions on cash like this. Its the stupidity of the system that encourages the public sector to spend cash as if its free thats at the heart of the problem.

 

Whenever, the government is being blamed for nonsense like this, its like the public actually believe the minister signed the expense claim. We had years and years of the tories being blamed for every civil service cock up and now its just shifted to Labour.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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1 minute ago, Bryn said:

I'm no fan of Labour but the objective reality is that that will be a system that originated under the Tories, which Labour have now identified (it's mind boggling that no data is being kept when it's an automated system) and plan to address, and the number of asylum seekers in hotels has almost halved since Labour came to power. 

But it'll be Farage who benefits because people have no desire to actually critique information anymore.

And when the payment for that lack of desire comes due, it will be very, very high.

 

Hopefully though, there is still time to avert a future where we must beg for forgiveness from future generations or live forever in their infamy. 

inckley fox

inckley fox

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58 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

And when the payment for that lack of desire comes due, it will be very, very high.

 

Hopefully though, there is still time to avert a future where we must beg for forgiveness from future generations or live forever in their infamy. 

It's a bit of an assumption that there will even be future generations at this rate.

leicsmac

leicsmac

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13 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

It's a bit of an assumption that there will even be future generations at this rate.

Nah, I'm pretty sure that there will be at least some, but if we give them a future that resembles the Fury Road then we at least owe them an apology and explanation before whoever is Immortan Joe either enslaves them or uses their body fat for machine oil. 

Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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11 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Nah, I'm pretty sure that there will be at least some, but if we give them a future that resembles the Fury Road then we at least owe them an apology and explanation before whoever is Immortan Joe either enslaves them or uses their body fat for machine oil. 

It'll be nothing like Fury Road, more like Horizon Zero 

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Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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It's only now that I realise why Americans never get my, "Why are there no pain relief tablets in the jungle?" joke.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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Excerpt from the Beeb News at Six last night. 

 

SOPHIE RAWORTH: Let’s start with London wants to go to Sharia law.

NICK BEAKE, BBC VERIFY: Yeah, that’s right Sophie, this was the startling claim made by President Trump today, part of his message that immigration is destroying European countries, including the UK.

We know that for the best part of a decade, Trump has attacked Sir Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London. But this appears to be the first time the president has claimed that London wants to go to Sharia law.

There was this myth on the internet about five years ago that was quickly and easily debunked that the legal system would be moving to Sharia Law. So that was then.

Today, the mayor of London’s office said that these comments didn’t really dignify a response. They called them appalling and bigoted. And a government minister said for the record that Trump’s claim was false.

SOPHIE RAWORTH: What about climate change? The president said it was the greatest con job ever.

NICK BEAKE, BBC VERIFY: Yeah, he did, Sophie. The thing is that decades of specialist research really torpedoes that argument.

The vast majority of scientists and experts say that climate change caused by humans is real. And here’s a quote. This is from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, IPCC, made up of hundreds of leading scientists.

“Human activities, principally through emissions of greenhouse gasses, have unequivocally caused global warming.”

SOPHIE RAWORTH: And finally, he also said, he told world leaders that he has ended seven wars. Has he?

NICK BEAKE, BBC VERIFY: No he hasn’t, Sophie, that is not the case.

Trump claimed that thousands of people were dying in each of these seven wars he talked about, but the reality is very different.

Some of them were very quick skirmishes across borders. There was one that was a dispute between Egypt and Ethiopia over water, over the construction of a dam on the River Nile. There was no fighting there.

President Trump says he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, but the war in Gaza continues, as, too, the war in Ukraine, which of course Mr. Trump said he could end in just one day.

 

Sometimes, it's good to see the most obvious lies being pointed out in no uncertain terms on primetime TV for all to see. 

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Sampson

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This is the first time I’ve actually seen Badenoch show signs of a spine towards Farage and not just tacitly agree with him or even try to out-Farage him. Tories might actually stand for something again it they can actually keep this train of thought. 

 

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st albans fox

st albans fox

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3 minutes ago, Sampson said:

This is the first time I’ve actually seen Badenoch show signs of a spine towards Farage and not just tacitly agree with him or even try to out-Farage him. Tories might actually stand for something again it they can actually keep this train of thought. 

 

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This is the bat with which reform will be hit to try and stop them reaching govt.  They are not a party of govt - they are a protest party 

leicsmac

leicsmac

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1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

This is the bat with which reform will be hit to try and stop them reaching govt.  They are not a party of govt - they are a protest party 

Why both the Tories and Labour haven't emphasised Farage giving even a bit of credence to Trump's dangerously unscientific bollocks (that will cost lives and health) a long time before now, I have no idea. 

Leicester_Loyal

Leicester_Loyal

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5 hours ago, Bryn said:

I'm no fan of Labour but the objective reality is that that will be a system that originated under the Tories, which Labour have now identified (it's mind boggling that no data is being kept when it's an automated system) and plan to address, and the number of asylum seekers in hotels has almost halved since Labour came to power. 

But it'll be Farage who benefits because people have no desire to actually critique information anymore.

Where have all the asylum seekers gone if the number has halved? HMOs, rented accomodation? 

 

Is it figure manipulation? Yes the hotel numbers are massively down, but because they've been put into other accomodation?

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Parafox

Parafox

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4 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Just goes to show what scientific progress can achieve. 

"The first symptoms of Huntington's disease tend to appear in your 30s or 40s and is normally fatal within two decades – opening the possibility that earlier treatment could prevent symptoms from ever emerging".

 

This a key next stage which these brilliant research teams could be very close to achieving.

 

Hopefully other degenerative diseases can similarly be treated/overcome in the years ahead. 

 

Not to derail the thread but the one reason I don't want to pass away is that I won't get to see the progress in medical science and technology that will benefit the world and the human race. 

 

That said, I wouldn't want to see the future negatives.

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Parafox

Parafox

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3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Excerpt from the Beeb News at Six last night. 

 

SOPHIE RAWORTH: Let’s start with London wants to go to Sharia law.

NICK BEAKE, BBC VERIFY: Yeah, that’s right Sophie, this was the startling claim made by President Trump today, part of his message that immigration is destroying European countries, including the UK.

We know that for the best part of a decade, Trump has attacked Sir Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London. But this appears to be the first time the president has claimed that London wants to go to Sharia law.

There was this myth on the internet about five years ago that was quickly and easily debunked that the legal system would be moving to Sharia Law. So that was then.

Today, the mayor of London’s office said that these comments didn’t really dignify a response. They called them appalling and bigoted. And a government minister said for the record that Trump’s claim was false.

SOPHIE RAWORTH: What about climate change? The president said it was the greatest con job ever.

NICK BEAKE, BBC VERIFY: Yeah, he did, Sophie. The thing is that decades of specialist research really torpedoes that argument.

The vast majority of scientists and experts say that climate change caused by humans is real. And here’s a quote. This is from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, IPCC, made up of hundreds of leading scientists.

“Human activities, principally through emissions of greenhouse gasses, have unequivocally caused global warming.”

SOPHIE RAWORTH: And finally, he also said, he told world leaders that he has ended seven wars. Has he?

NICK BEAKE, BBC VERIFY: No he hasn’t, Sophie, that is not the case.

Trump claimed that thousands of people were dying in each of these seven wars he talked about, but the reality is very different.

Some of them were very quick skirmishes across borders. There was one that was a dispute between Egypt and Ethiopia over water, over the construction of a dam on the River Nile. There was no fighting there.

President Trump says he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, but the war in Gaza continues, as, too, the war in Ukraine, which of course Mr. Trump said he could end in just one day.

 

Sometimes, it's good to see the most obvious lies being pointed out in no uncertain terms on primetime TV for all to see. 

That was an exceptional piece of TV journalism. And it showed Trump  for the ignorant, stupid narcissistic fool that he is, but sadly there are hundreds of thousands of people that will never see this and of many of those that do, there's plenty that will dismiss it as fake news.

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Robo61

Robo61

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1 hour ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Where have all the asylum seekers gone if the number has halved? HMOs, rented accomodation? 

 

Is it figure manipulation? Yes the hotel numbers are massively down, but because they've been put into other accomodation?

The number of asylum seekers awaiting a decision has also gone down substantially (18%). 

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