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BigGibbo

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1 hour ago, Raj said:

I would say it's been worse over the last q4 years but I'm not getting political!

Seems that abit of corruption, ineptitude and shoulder shrugging goes on no matter who's in charge.

Yeah, I think we're dealing with political entropy. Whoever gets in doesn't address the primary issues (inequality/cost of living/stagnation/poorly resourced/badly managed immigration, etc), they just try and manage what we have. For the most part they are essentially midwit middle managers because they are paid the wage of midwit middle managers and are only qualified as midwit middle managers.

 

It probably gets worse before it gets better when Reform win unfortunately. I'm not that hopeful for the future here and the amount I have to save to get a mortgage on a house worth a piss, without too much leverage, is enough to live comfortably abroad, which is what I and most others lucky enough like me are probably going to do/already are doing.

Lionator

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28 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Guess I imagined my childhood.

Your experiences are fair and valid but the speed of the decline of living standards in this country in terms of inequality is worse than at any point since the Second World War and all the stats back it up. 

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st albans fox

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39 minutes ago, SkidsFox said:

It’s not as if this bloke is Fred West, Gary Glitter, or that Welsh Rwanda killer (sorry forgot his name). Can’t help feeling everyone is over reacting over someone who was just inept in flirting (ok he should have avoided underage girls), there are 1000s around

Inept at flirting = sexual assault ???

 

have I missed something ?  Do you know what he actually did ?  where did he touch the young girl??  It would perhaps help us appreciate why he only received a one year sentence. also, we should NOT excuse men approaching underage girls - this is one reason why Rotherham etc was allowed to happen by authorities. 

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davieG

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To give some context to this not bragging or complaining

 

I got married and bought a new semi in Birstall in 1969

 

MrsG had some savings and I had FA having just finished my apprenticeship  and living with my brother in a flat in Clarenden Park, for example I borrowed my brother's trouser on my 1st date.

 

Our mortgage if I remember was £23ish a month for 35 years, my bosses was £8 / month. Mind you it was con mortgage an endowment one as we were supposed to get a lump sum at the end but ended up with nothing.

 

My wage was about £12/week.

 

The house had no heating, just an oven, hob in the kitchen, single glazed windows. The garden front and back was still a building site.

 

We had no TV, no phone, on a waiting list for a party line with next door, just a radio for entertainment. We only had a bed and dining table, both wedding gifts.

 

We both had to get 2 buses via St Margaret's to get to work. My hours were 8-5.30 with a 1 hr lunch break. Overtime was available now and again to work to 6pm and Saturday mornings.

 

Things got worse a few years later when we had 3 kids and inflation was at 17%

 

 

How that compares to today I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment.

 

 

 

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Raj

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29 minutes ago, BigGibbo said:

Yeah, I think we're dealing with political entropy. Whoever gets in doesn't address the primary issues (inequality/cost of living/stagnation/poorly resourced/badly managed immigration, etc), they just try and manage what we have. For the most part they are essentially midwit middle managers because they are paid the wage of midwit middle managers and are only qualified as midwit middle managers.

 

It probably gets worse before it gets better when Reform win unfortunately. I'm not that hopeful for the future here and the amount I have to save to get a mortgage on a house worth a piss, without too much leverage, is enough to live comfortably abroad, which is what I and most others lucky enough like me are probably going to do/already are doing.

I dont blame anyone for leaving the way this country is sinking.

A friend of mine has gone to teach in Mumbai for 2 years and she said the quality of life is on a different  level.

Unfortunately  our own circumstances  with a 17 and 12 year old settled in education  with a good group of friends  is the only thing stopping us moving away as we can only see it getting worse.

My 17 year old already says she wants to get a job abroad.. I joke that I will  go with her!!!

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st albans fox

st albans fox

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38 minutes ago, davieG said:

To give some context to this not bragging or complaining

 

I got married and bought a new semi in Birstall in 1969

 

MrsG had some savings and I had FA having just finished my apprenticeship  and living with my brother in a flat in Clarenden Park, for example I borrowed my brother's trouser on my 1st date.

 

Our mortgage if I remember was £23ish a month for 35 years, my bosses was £8 / month. Mind you it was con mortgage an endowment one as we were supposed to get a lump sum at the end but ended up with nothing.

 

My wage was about £12/week.

 

The house had no heating, just an oven, hob in the kitchen, single glazed windows. The garden front and back was still a building site.

 

We had no TV, no phone, on a waiting list for a party line with next door, just a radio for entertainment. We only had a bed and dining table, both wedding gifts.

 

We both had to get 2 buses via St Margaret's to get to work. My hours were 8-5.30 with a 1 hr lunch break. Overtime was available now and again to work to 6pm and Saturday mornings.

 

Things got worse a few years later when we had 3 kids and inflation was at 17%

 

 

How that compares to today I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment.

 

 

 

You were lucky !

 

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BigGibbo

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1 hour ago, Raj said:

I dont blame anyone for leaving the way this country is sinking.

A friend of mine has gone to teach in Mumbai for 2 years and she said the quality of life is on a different  level.

Unfortunately  our own circumstances  with a 17 and 12 year old settled in education  with a good group of friends  is the only thing stopping us moving away as we can only see it getting worse.

My 17 year old already says she wants to get a job abroad.. I joke that I will  go with her!!!

 

Yea, I was offered work in Qatar and the UAE several years ago and turned it down as I was planning to get a mortgage and settle down here, but in that time the houses, (not to mention utilities and taxes) have gone up by as much as I've saved and the standard of services and general safety has gone down equally as dramatically. I'm thinking about reaching back out now. Still undecided and will shit or get off the pot in the next 12 months I think. 

 

Fair play to her, she should give it a go whilst a UK education is still considered valuable internationally. I definitely wish I had tried it before now.

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Trav Le Bleu

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55 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Your experiences are fair and valid but the speed of the decline of living standards in this country in terms of inequality is worse than at any point since the Second World War and all the stats back it up. 

No I get that, it just seems that people seem to view wants as necessities. In some cases, it's been forced on them (internet connection, lack of public transport, lack of security, inbuilt obsolescence, etc) but there's very much a reluctance to buy used goods or repair stuff.

 

A lot less people know how to repair, maintain things that would've been the norm or even prepare a meal. This of course plays into the wealthy people's hands (read Brave New World) and the gap is wider than ever.

 

There's also a massive buy-in of the narrative.

Cooking is so much hassle and should be ready instantly; I can have new, cheap clothes every week (and I need to, because they wear out quick); it's not safe for kids to walk to school, so we need a 2nd car; a kitchen needs a dishwasher.

 

These are all perceptions encouraged to keep the money rolling in, none of these are necessities, but are considered by many to be so. 

 

"Our necessities are few, but our wants are endless." George Bernard Shaw.

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BigGibbo

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7 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

No I get that, it just seems that people seem to view wants as necessities. In some cases, it's been forced on them (internet connection, lack of public transport, lack of security, inbuilt obsolescence, etc) but there's very much a reluctance to buy used goods or repair stuff.

 

A lot less people know how to repair, maintain things that would've been the norm or even prepare a meal. This of course plays into the wealthy people's hands (read Brave New World) and the gap is wider than ever.

 

There's also a massive buy-in of the narrative.

Cooking is so much hassle and should be ready instantly; I can have new, cheap clothes every week (and I need to, because they wear out quick); it's not safe for kids to walk to school, so we need a 2nd car; a kitchen needs a dishwasher.

 

These are all perceptions encouraged to keep the money rolling in, none of these are necessities, but are considered by many to be so. 

 

"Our necessities are few, but our wants are endless." George Bernard Shaw.

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of people that have misaligned priorities, buy a nice car before a house, eat out or Deliveroo too much, or whatever, but a large part of that can be explained by doom spending (where the amount they would save by not doing that is so piffling in relation to what they need to move ahead in life that they say eff it and give up, possibly prematurely) and there's also an element of we have always been promised that the next generation will have a better quality of life than the previous, but this is the first generation where that is no longer true and they're struggling to reconcile that.

 

Also like you've already mentioned there is planned obsolescence into everything we buy and the reason there are less people able to fix things and 'make do and mend' is because most new products are protected from outside interference also. For example there are people that have fixed electronics all their life that can't get into an Apple product to fix it or people that have been mechanics all their life that can't even get access to the engine of some new cars.

 

There is a bit of the trying to compare apples with oranges about trying to compare how things worked in the past to how things work now methinks.

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davieG

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27 minutes ago, BigGibbo said:

people that have been mechanics all their life that can't even get access to the engine of some new cars

Agree with that I’m not a car mechanic but with a decent handbook have  redone brakes, replaced a gearbox with a second hand one; stripped, cleaned and reset a carburettor, replaced a radiator, reminds me of all the crap cars I’ve had. These days I don’t even lift the bonnet to check the water either because it’s too complex and sealed or they self check. 
 

It’s also hard to get replacement parts you have to buy a whole section. I had a car where the headlight failed I couldn’t just replace the bulb it was a complete assembly and cost £30. 
 

Then there’s where the replacement part costs more than a complete new item which happened to me with a printer. 

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BigGibbo

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3 minutes ago, davieG said:

Agree with that I’m not a car mechanic but with a decent handbook have  redone brakes, replaced a gearbox with a second hand one; stripped, cleaned and reset a carburettor, replaced a radiator, reminds me of all the crap cars I’ve had. These days I don’t even lift the bonnet to check the water either because it’s too complex and sealed or they self check. 
 

It’s also hard to get replacement parts you have to buy a whole section. I had a car where the headlight failed I couldn’t just replace the bulb it was a complete assembly and cost £30. 
 

Then there’s where the replacement part costs more than a complete new item which happened to me with a printer. 

Yeah, it's getting silly. Don't start me on printers. Hah! I got a HP printer that stopped working and became a brick the second I stopped my ink jet subscription because I hadn't used it in a couple of months and still had too much ink. The way things are going with micro-transactions on absolutely everything now is driving me mad.

 

We are well on the way to owning nothing, but the being happy part is less clear...

BigGibbo

BigGibbo

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1 hour ago, CornwallFox said:

I don't know enough about her beyond she's more to the left than starmar. 

What do you mean?

Think she's the one who said grooming gangs were a dog whistle issue?

 

Imagine saying that about our generations Jimmy Saville.

 

Facilitating crimes against working class children is one thing this country still excels at at least...

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st albans fox

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55 minutes ago, BigGibbo said:

Think she's the one who said grooming gangs were a dog whistle issue?

 

Imagine saying that about our generations Jimmy Saville.

 

Facilitating crimes against working class children is one thing this country still excels at at least...

16% turn out amongst Labour Party members tells you all you need to know about significance of this 

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BigGibbo

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4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

16% turn out amongst Labour Party members tells you all you need to know about significance of this 

Thats so bad I had to Google to check the stats are correct 😂 and only 54% of that 16% voted for her... so just over 8% 🤣

Md9

Md9

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32 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Trump raises tariffs on Canadian goods in response to Reagan advert - BBC News

 

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Awww, is little diddums upset about the nasty man saying horrible things.

These fools go on about free speech in every other country but then cry and sue you if you say something they don’t loke or call it fake news. Never seen a bigger bunch of people get offended by anything and they say everyone else gets offended by everything 

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The Bear

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Such a massive baby with a fragile ego. 

 

I was watching a YouTube video of how he regularly cheats at golf too. Whenever he buys a new course he plays the first official round at the club, then calls that the inaugural Club Championship so that he can "win" it. 

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