Our fans are also to blame

[OnlyOneCity]

From what I’ve read on here, most of the moaners stopped going sometime ago and expect those of us who still want to go and support the TEAM, to stop as well as we are damaging the club. You’ve chosen not to support them anymore, don’t expect fans who love their club, to decide not to go on your say so. We all know the club is in a mess and needs a change at the top levels. Until that happens we will still be trying to urge the team on, whoever is wearing the shirt. We can still boo and abuse the board but refrain from booing the players. We are stuck with them right now and should show some mettle by trying to urge them on to win games. Up the City.

[FoxesBraun]

Worth bearing in mind there was a chunk Wednesday fans up until about a year ago who didn’t think Chansiri was ‘that bad’.

 

We’re in a downward spiral for some time now but some people just won’t see it until it’s too late…

[jayfox26]

33 minutes ago, James and his giant peach said:

Isn't what makes a supporter someone who supports the club? Supporting the club means turning up and watching, even if we end up in the vanarama, you go and support the team. I'm the first one to call Soumare a lazy cvnt but it's my religion to go each week, so I'm not stopping that. Spending in the shop is not really my things, it's all overpriced, but it's also about showing pride in your team and wearing your teams badge and colours. Everyone who supports us wants us to be better and wants is to win, but either not turning up or just turning up to protest, boo etc doesn't really help things at all. 

 

I've just seen Fatawu critising the support now, it must be a topic among the squad, players being booed etc, and clearly isn't helping anything at all on or off the pitch. Maybe if we create a cauldron of noise and support we can do something positive. Doubtful I know but you never know. 

We need new owners and a new board. The only way this will happen is by a big drop in attendances and merch sales. As I keep saying, so long a people buy stuff and continue to turn up to every game, its business as usual for Top and co and nothing changes. 

[Globalfox]

7 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

We need new owners and a new board. The only way this will happen is by a big drop in attendances and merch sales. As I keep saying, so long a people buy stuff and continue to turn up to every game, its business as usual for Top and co and nothing changes. 

To secure a sale someone probably has to come up with 400 million cash. If you know someone I reckon Top would be interested. They will also need to guarantee another to million to ensue we are considered a going concern. To be honest anyone willing to put 450 million aside for Leicester City would have to be a deep fan.

[grobyfox1990]

18 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Unpopular opinion but I genuinely don't care less anymore. 

 

Our fans that think that turning up at the stadium every week and buying merch from the shop etc, is actually helping the club are deluded. 

 

The club is beyond broken and cannot be fixed without a major reset which involves new owners, new board and new players. 

 

This owner, this board and the majority of this group of players do not deserve our money or support.

 

Top and his cronies do not accept they are doing anything wrong, because there is not enough dissent from the fanbase. 

 

We've had project reset etc but ultimately we don't have enough of the fanbase on board to make real changes at the club. 

 

Unless people are turning up to the stadium to protest and show their dislike to the board and the majority of our players, why are you even going to the games? 

 

We are an absolute disgrace and our fanbase is allowing it to happen. 

That’s defo not an unpopular opinion. This forum is mainly AI-enabled happy clappers repeating different versions of what you’ve just said 

[jayfox26]

36 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

With all due respect mate, the last thing I want to do on a Saturday is get stuck on abbey lane traffic to support Harry Winks who quite literally, hates the club. 
 

turning up to protest would help, attending games and lining the owners pockets isn’t helping. I genuinely think a lot of what the original poster is trying to say is completely lost on a lot of fans, like you just don’t get it 

I'm glad some people on here have understood my post. It was never meant to be a dick measuring contest of who is the best fan, I don't think I'm better than anyone else or a bigger fan/supporter than anyone else, I was just trying to make people see that "supporting the club" isn't always supporting the club. There are many like you and myself that understand this concept but unfortunately most don't and have a blind loyalty to LCFC because they can't see that LCFC has become KPFC. Some still back the owners and many don't and want change but yet can't understand that the only way the board and the owner will start to take notice is by a drop in attendance and merch sales etc. 

 

Can we force Top to sell? No 

 

Can we make him consider selling because the clubs losing money through ticket sales/merch sales etc and embarrass him and his board by having a half empty stadium? Absolutely, but it would take 1000s of people to be on board and judging by many of the comments on here, that will never happen.

 

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[jayfox26]

7 minutes ago, Globalfox said:

To secure a sale someone probably has to come up with 400 million cash. If you know someone I reckon Top would be interested. They will also need to guarantee another to million to ensue we are considered a going concern. To be honest anyone willing to put 450 million aside for Leicester City would have to be a deep fan.

Not really, smaller clubs like Birmingham and Wrexham have ended up with wealthy owners. I think we would still be an attractive proposition to anyone who's looking at investing in a football club. 

 

 

[jayfox26]

7 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

That’s defo not an unpopular opinion. This forum is mainly AI-enabled happy clappers repeating different versions of what you’ve just said 

Seems quite unpopular from some of the abuse I've been getting. I'm not welcome on this forum or at the stadium apparently 🤣. 

 

Who'd have thought having an opinion on a fans forum could trigger some people so badly 🤣. 

[AKCJ]

1 hour ago, funkyrobot said:

We are struggling because we have a poor team, a poor director of football who has mismanaged this poor team and an owner who has taken his eye off the ball and has not invested in continually improving the first team squad.  Having some loyal fans that are older than you’d personally like is definitely not a key factor. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Having a fanbase of happy clappers is a massive factor.

 

No other fan base would just sit there and let it happen yet Coach 1 would let Top shag their spouse.

[Globalfox]

10 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Not really, smaller clubs like Birmingham and Wrexham have ended up with wealthy owners. I think we would still be an attractive proposition to anyone who's looking at investing in a football club. 

 

 

So you want us to go under and be picked up for a song. Birmingham cost 40 million Wrexham less but they have had no financial scrutiny till this season. This is the first time they face PSR let’s see what happens.

[James and his giant peach]

55 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

With all due respect mate, the last thing I want to do on a Saturday is get stuck on abbey lane traffic to support Harry Winks who quite literally, hates the club. 
 

turning up to protest would help, attending games and lining the owners pockets isn’t helping. I genuinely think a lot of what the original poster is trying to say is completely lost on a lot of fans, like you just don’t get it 

I'm not your mate, and that's fine, that's what football is about, opinions. I couldn't not go, I tried this season not to renew, went to the last day and I caved in. Like I said its a religion, my religion, and no matter how shit they are or how much I dislike the majority of the players I will always be there. A bit like a Christian has a bad time they don't stop going to church. I'm not sure when times are hard not turning up is the answer but you do you and turn up again when we are good. 

By the way we are a second division club by nature, most of our history has been spent there, and we have spoit in the last few years by the success. Just because we aren't very good doesn't mean fans should stop showing up. 

[LCFCJohn]

37 minutes ago, OnlyOneCity said:

From what I’ve read on here, most of the moaners stopped going sometime ago and expect those of us who still want to go and support the TEAM, to stop as well as we are damaging the club. You’ve chosen not to support them anymore, don’t expect fans who love their club, to decide not to go on your say so. We all know the club is in a mess and needs a change at the top levels. Until that happens we will still be trying to urge the team on, whoever is wearing the shirt. We can still boo and abuse the board but refrain from booing the players. We are stuck with them right now and should show some mettle by trying to urge them on to win games. Up the City.

I do think it’s a minority who are saying that to be fair. Most probably respect others reasons for continuing to attend. But it’s a two way street and those who have stopped going shouldn’t be accused of not being proper supporters as has been happening in this thread. Everyone has their own view and way they think it should be dealt with. 

 

I tend to agree with your post otherwise. All I would add is the point about merchandise and food/drink from the stadium. If people say they are unhappy with the running of the club but want to continue to support the manager and players, that can stop at the turnstile so to speak (financially). If people continue to spend in the shop and buy the overpriced food and drink in the ground, I would respectfully suggest they aren’t unhappy with the running of the club. 
 

As for the players, the vast majority are not fit to wear the shirt but we are seeming to be at a worrying point with Faes’ actions after his goal last week, Winks mannerisms and now Fatawu’s post. It’s getting toxic and something needs to happen. At the very least, that is showing active support to the many of the players. If people have a few players they cannot actively support, at least indifference rather than boo. Take players like Thomas and Justin. They are not good enough but they are inoffensive otherwise. Or just call their bluff by supporting them. They are saying it’s the fans fault but personally, I don’t think these players have any drive and desire to put the effort in regardless so just be the bigger people and leave them nowhere to hide!

 

Final thought is, anger against the board and owner can be separated from the players. Look at Wednesday. I think most of the frustration is at those who genuinely still love the owner and think he can do no wrong. Those who attend and make their voices heard against the running of the club are doing the right thing.

[James and his giant peach]

3 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

So the only fans are those that attend each week? 
 

What about those who live too far away?
 

What about those who can’t afford what top level football has become to follow and go to non league because it’s cheaper?

What about those who have attended for years/decades and found that football at this level has become all together too stale and find lower level football more authentic as well as affordable? 

I think the point is deliberately choosing not to go even though you could out of some sort of principle. These dreamers want an empty stadium, Top to start crying, sell to an Arab and for us to be top 4 every season. 

 

OR maybe we are Leicester City and achieved more in the last 30 years than most teams will in their history. 

[Nods]

I'm sorry, Abdul, but you're wrong here. 

 

Yes the atmosphere is toxic, and no it doesn't help.

 

But it is entirely to be expected when this crop of players continually turn in low effort, disorganized and shambolic performances. 

 

Yes it's only the second game of the season, but it's the same crop of players that have been guilty of this for some time. 

 

The fans rightly would at least expect competence against what is inferior opposition. That doesn't mean we have to win every week, and every now and again we may even play poorly. However, it is so evident that a lack of effort and low professional standards are to blame here. 

 

The body language throughout the team tells you everything. They're not up for it, and no set of fans is going to get behind their team when that's the case.

 

Look inward ffs. You're professional athletes. Do better.

[TheGoldenGod]

Who is that USALeicesterFan twitter account? A proper KPFC shill. Brandead.

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, James and his giant peach said:

I think the point is deliberately choosing not to go even though you could out of some sort of principle. These dreamers want an empty stadium, Top to start crying, sell to an Arab and for us to be top 4 every season. 

 

OR maybe we are Leicester City and achieved more in the last 30 years than most teams will in their history. 

Nobody expects to finish top 4 every season. That’s completely false, hyperbolic, dramatic and unhelpful and comments like that prompt a reaction and contribute towards the divide in our fanbase. 
 

I expressed my thoughts in the post above your reply to this, replying to OnlyOneCity. I am against the owners and think the players by and large are not fit to wear the shirt. But people are entitled to make their own decision either way.

 

We have achieved an enormous amount in the last 30 years. We are top 6 behind Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool in the Premier League era for trophies won. But many more people than Vichai and Aiyawatt were behind those achievements. I don’t recall Vichai keeping clean sheets and Aiyawatt winning the golden boot!

 

Why can’t people that are intent on defending the owners and attacking fans who are expressing dissatisfaction accept/understand that it is not about continually winning trophies or finishing top 4, but that we just want the club back that we can relate to, with a squad of players we can like, not being subject of financial issues year in year out, not spending beyond our means and unable to shift deadwood. Poor communications, the club being used as Thai propaganda. Loads more and none of it about finishing top 4 and winning cups each year. Why does that continually get ignored? Is it so you can continue to get the digs in? Please just answer this as it gets ignored time and time again by other posters.

[Chief Keef]

I see the term ‘happy clapper’ get thrown around a lot but I’m not sure there are too many that go to home games. Interested to know how others feel but in my view the vibe and atmosphere at home games has been mostly miserable since 2022. And increasingly so year on year. 

 

More than anything I think the match going fan base is passive. Passive in support towards the team and passive in anger towards the board. 

[funkyrobot]

1 hour ago, AKCJ said:

Having a fanbase of happy clappers is a massive factor.

 

No other fan base would just sit there and let it happen yet Coach 1 would let Top shag their spouse.

It’s not the fans. Yes. there will always be fans that hark back to the days when Leicester were a well run operation. As there are at every club. It’s very difficult for some fans to accept that the halcyon KP era ended (or started a steady decline) really when Vichai tragically died. That being said it’s not the fans supporting the club that are causing the problems. I can only assume this happy clappers thing comes from people who don’t actually go. After every loss we see the same old comments. Those of us who attended games home and away last season can tell you at times, the atmosphere was positively toxic within the stadium.

 

What I would say to the people who drop the happy clappers thread EVERY time we lose. If you are really all about action and think the fanbase are passive then start  doing something and I don’t mean suddenly pretend not coming to games is the action. Most of you never really came to games anyway. If you really mean it, whilst the rest of us are watching the match, demonstrate loudly outside the club shop or something rather than going off with the fam for some food and shopping at Fosse Park and then dropping the happy clappers messages when you’ve got home and have seen Leicester have lost again.  

[AKCJ]

11 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

It’s not the fans. Yes. there will always be fans that hark back to the days when Leicester were a well run operation. As there are at every club. It’s very difficult for some fans to accept that the halcyon KP era ended (or started a steady decline) really when Vichai tragically died. That being said it’s not the fans supporting the club that are causing the problems. I can only assume this happy clappers thing comes from people who don’t actually go. After every loss we see the same old comments. Those of us who attended games home and away last season can tell you at times, the atmosphere was positively toxic within the stadium.

 

What I would say to the people who drop the happy clappers thread EVERY time we lose. If you are really all about action and think the fanbase are passive then start  doing something and I don’t mean suddenly pretend not coming to games is the action. Most of you never really came to games anyway. If you really mean it, whilst the rest of us are watching the match, demonstrate loudly outside the club shop or something rather than going off with the fam for some food and shopping at Fosse Park and then dropping the happy clappers messages when you’ve got home and have seen Leicester have lost again.  

Problem is people try to pin it on one thing.

 

The fans that are happy to toe the line for King Power are 100% part of the problem.

 

I usually go to about 25-30 games a season but I probably won't go to more than 10-15 this year. I'm loathed to give Aiyawatt my hard earned cash.

 

The KPFC types are always happy to pretend they're such great fans yet they sit there at games in silence, clap the players for underperforming and buy every bit of merchandise under the sun. King Power loves people like that.

[Eskay]

Genuinely interested to know why some of the fans applauded off that shower of piss yesterday. 

 

I'm keen to understand the POV as my perspective is you are showing your appreciation for the effort.....of which there was **** all! 

[SemperEadem]

3 minutes ago, Eskay said:

Genuinely interested to know why some of the fans applauded off that shower of piss yesterday. 

 

I'm keen to understand the POV as my perspective is you are showing your appreciation for the effort.....of which there was **** all! 

I think it’s now done either out of habit or done to show others look at me as an anti action to any shouting or booing.

[ramboacdc]

Whilst we aren't doing well, all the numbers will anyway. Sheff Wed game already had empty seats, Deepdale went from being a sell out and a whole stand to die hards only. 

 

Club doesn't invest well and get results on the pitch, the fairweathers will spend elsewhere. 

[funkyrobot]

21 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Problem is people try to pin it on one thing.

 

The fans that are happy to toe the line for King Power are 100% part of the problem.

 

I usually go to about 25-30 games a season but I probably won't go to more than 10-15 this year. I'm loathed to give Aiyawatt my hard earned cash.

 

The KPFC types are always happy to pretend they're such great fans yet they sit there at games in silence, clap the players for underperforming and buy every bit of merchandise under the sun. King Power loves people like that.

I can understand complaints about Rudkin, Top, managers and players as they are clear failures by specific people. With this happy clapper KPFC thing, It’s seems to be a group of traits that you’ve imagined into this army of fans to hate. Are there swathes out there that fit your criteria of silence, clapping and merch completists? Aren’t bouts of silence during a terrible performance a form of protest when something isn’t going well? Like not clapping at a gig or a theatre performance. Does buying a shirt make you a happy clapper? What if it’s a snide from DHGate? What happens when a 16 year old scores a goal? Is it wrong to applaud him? 

Tbh your protest of reducing going to games by 10 would be judged as a bit of a half hearted gesture by the full hardcore anti clapper collective. You’ve got to be all in with 0% attendance otherwise your are dangerously close to being categorised in the happy clapper group thar you hate. Happy Clappers increasingly seems to describe everyone who watches Leicester live at a stadium when they are shit and losing.
 

 

[Vlad the Fox]

3 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

And again, this is an ill informed point of view because the PL have charged Manchester City with 115 charges and they have a hearing in October, and Chelsea haven't actually broken any rules. 

 

We are no different from Manchester City we are both process pending potential final verdict/punishment and both cases it's been going on for seasons and in both cases no sanction, as of yet, has been imposed on either club. 

 

 

Weren’t Chelsea charged with making secretive or overseas payments to players? Isn’t that an offence punishable with a points deduction? 
 

That charge seems to have just disappeared.

[grobyfox1990]

3 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Seems quite unpopular from some of the abuse I've been getting. I'm not welcome on this forum or at the stadium apparently 🤣. 

 

Who'd have thought having an opinion on a fans forum could trigger some people so badly 🤣. 

That’s uncalled for. Sorry to hear that