Cifuentes OUT

[Rubbersoul]

48 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

It was another one we got away with. Mainly because Derby are shit. 
 

But we’ve got to be realistic now, those choosing to praise him, but it’s the final days of 2025, and there’s been zero improvement over the second part of the year. There’s no evidence of a style of play, there’s zero flexibility in his plan, there seems not to be a plan. His subs are generally poorly times and not thought out properly. 
 

We’re so susceptible to being pressed and turns over that it’s becoming a real blueprint for teams to beat us (as we will see on NYD)…. 
 

I just don’t like him, don’t rate him as a manager, we’re poorly coached and poorly set up. His tenure here won’t be remembered fondly after he’s finally booted…. Which I now think won’t be until the summer depending on if we manage to stay up…. But he’s not he man to take us forward.

As i said before we won’t go on a bad enough run for him to be under real pressure. 
 

Can see this pattern of form continuing till the end of the season then god knows what’ll happen. 
 

But like you said we’re now nearly in 2026 and there’s been zero signs of improvement. We still don’t have any recognised patterns of play 

[Pliskin]

1 minute ago, Rubbersoul said:

As i said before we won’t go on a bad enough run for him to be under real pressure. 
 

Can see this pattern of form continuing till the end of the season then god knows what’ll happen. 
 

But like you said we’re now nearly in 2026 and there’s been zero signs of improvement. We still don’t have any recognised patterns of play 

100%

[cityfanlee23]

1 hour ago, CUJimmy said:

Depends what you mean by salvageable.  If you mean get promoted then (apart from being relegated) I think that is the worst outcome.  This squad is so far from prem quality it would be embarrassing.

 

We have the quality in the academy and the young players out on loan to form the basis of a strong squad but that needs careful nurturing through strong leadership on and off the pitch and will take time.  I would prefer another season or two in the championship if it means a strong, and sustainable, future.

Completely get your point here. It’s a double edged sword, staying in the champ for another season would mean shifting out the big earners and being forced to spend on more sustainable wages, but given the record of the club recently, I’d be more worried it would result in us spending another decade down here. 
 

With the prem money if we somehow scuffed the playoffs, I’d rather have that 150m extra come into the club and then get relegated again.

 

Knowing this lot though we’d extend everyone’s contract and sign more guff on 80k a week though. 
 

There can be benefits to both approaches but personally I’d hope it would pay off if we got promoted even if it meant coming down, if we can get relegated in a similar way to Ipswich where they have a much more sustainable club now and players that they can afford to keep then I’d take it.

[cityfanlee23]

2 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

 

This season is not salvageable, plenty of teams have yes, not ones that are inconsistent concede too many poor goals and totally lack of persistent goal threat.

 

For every successful signing we make there are normally 3 terrible ones so the odds of someone half decent coming in in January who can actually improve our fortunes is minimal. 

On current form yes, but if we got an interim who could sort the mess out 10 points is still within reach. 
 

If we can string 5-6 good games together you suddenly find players back in form with confidence. Under Marti we have as much chance as a snowball in hell though. 

[Manwell Pablo]

Just now, cityfanlee23 said:

On current form yes, but if we got an interim who could sort the mess out 10 points is still within reach. 
 

If we can string 5-6 good games together you suddenly find players back in form with confidence. Under Marti we have as much chance as a snowball in hell though. 

 

Wont happen.

 

Marti can go for all I care but they will probably appoint someone equally as bad if not worse.

 

Ownership is dreadful and needs changing simple as that. This clubs going nowhere until it does.

[whoareyaaa]

1 hour ago, cityfanlee23 said:

On current form yes, but if we got an interim who could sort the mess out 10 points is still within reach. 
 

If we can string 5-6 good games together you suddenly find players back in form with confidence. Under Marti we have as much chance as a snowball in hell though. 

Marti has got rid of want aways in Winks and Faes, included more youth and still has us only 4 points from the playoffs all without a striker and losing 5 first team players and bringing in only James.

 

Someone said he has not made use of Ramsey  

 

I'd give him more time, King is right in his ear and they are probably starting to work it out

[Lambert09]

1 hour ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Completely get your point here. It’s a double edged sword, staying in the champ for another season would mean shifting out the big earners and being forced to spend on more sustainable wages, but given the record of the club recently, I’d be more worried it would result in us spending another decade down here. 
 

With the prem money if we somehow scuffed the playoffs, I’d rather have that 150m extra come into the club and then get relegated again.

 

Knowing this lot though we’d extend everyone’s contract and sign more guff on 80k a week though. 
 

There can be benefits to both approaches but personally I’d hope it would pay off if we got promoted even if it meant coming down, if we can get relegated in a similar way to Ipswich where they have a much more sustainable club now and players that they can afford to keep then I’d take it.

I do wonder if promotion 2 season ago actually improved our overall financial situation or it worsened further. Ignoring the income from players who we bought the season before, Bilal we pretty much brake even on (criminal) and obviously won’t recover any money from anyone else who came in.  
 

I think we just wasted every penny that came our way with no assets to show for it. Honestly, couldn’t have managed our situation any worse 

Edited 30 December 2025 by Lambert09

[Dahnsouff]

2 hours ago, Rubbersoul said:

As i said before we won’t go on a bad enough run for him to be under real pressure. 
 

Can see this pattern of form continuing till the end of the season then god knows what’ll happen. 
 

But like you said we’re now nearly in 2026 and there’s been zero signs of improvement. We still don’t have any recognised patterns of play 

If he keeps us up after a points deduction, has he failed?

[Dahnsouff]

37 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Marti has got rid of want aways in Winks and Faes, included more youth and still has us only 4 points from the playoffs all without a striker and losing 5 first team players and bringing in only James.

 

Someone said he has not made use of Ramsey  

 

I'd give him more time, King is right in his ear and they are probably starting to work it out

Need a wavering hand emoji. 

I hear you, and I see the argument, but being too late to berate Rodgers, just want to make sure I don't miss the boat this time. 

[whoareyaaa]

25 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I do wonder if promotion 2 season ago actually improved our overall financial situation or it worsened further. Ignoring the income from players who we bought the season before, Bilal we pretty much brake even on (criminal) and obviously won’t recover any money from anyone else who came in.  
 

I think we just wasted every penny that came our way with no assets to show for it. Honestly, couldn’t have managed our situation any worse 

33m on Ayew and Skipp tells you everything 10m on Okoli as well

 

BDCR and James who cost us next to nothing are the only reason we are where we are in terms of league postion

Edited 30 December 2025 by whoareyaaa

[MC Prussian]

Keeps hanging on by a thread.

The next two games should be very telling. We either string a little run together – or go straight back to lower mid-table mediocrity.

 

We have one of the worst defensive records after the first half of the season. Cifuentes has acknowledget that issue and benched Faes and Vestergaard.

Let's hope it pays off and we keep a clean sheet sooner than later. It's long overdue.

[BrilliantFox]

55 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

I'd give him more time

Happy clapper alert.

 

Side note, you have a profile picture of a man who knew what it meant to achieve his club's targets, how do you reconcile with Marti being on the opposite end of the spectrum in mentality to Pearson?

Edited 30 December 2025 by BrilliantFox

[whoareyaaa]

5 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

Happy clapper alert.

 

Side note, you have a profile picture of a man who knew what it meant to achieve his club's targets, how do you reconcile with Marti being on the opposite end of the spectrum in mentality to Pearson?

W*nker alert

 

Marti isn't the problem he has actually done more good than bad.

 

Good night.

[winteriscoming]

Will never go on a decent run with him. 
At best he’ll win 2 on the trot then lose a couple then get a draw and then another win. 
We won’t win 3 on the trot with him. 
It’s just going to be distinctly average with him in charge. 
Will end up with very similar wins, draws and defeats ratio under him. 
Genuinely think we would do better with someone else. 
Not massively better but we’d be at least around the play off spots with someone else. 

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, winteriscoming said:

Will never go on a decent run with him. 
At best he’ll win 2 on the trot then lose a couple then get a draw and then another win. 
We won’t win 3 on the trot with him. 
It’s just going to be distinctly average with him in charge. 
Will end up with very similar wins, draws and defeats ratio under him. 
Genuinely think we would do better with someone else. 
Not massively better but we’d be at least around the play off spots with someone else. 

Any manager would fair the same we are under a rebuild bring through youth with no recognizable striker after losing the greatest of them all, with no funds and points deduction heading our way.

Edited 30 December 2025 by whoareyaaa

[Jimmy]

Just now, winteriscoming said:

Will never go on a decent run with him. 
At best he’ll win 2 on the trot then lose a couple then get a draw and then another win. 
We won’t win 3 on the trot with him. 
It’s just going to be distinctly average with him in charge. 
Will end up with very similar wins, draws and defeats ratio under him. 
Genuinely think we would do better with someone else. 
Not massively better but we’d be at least around the play off spots with someone else. 

who? People were saying anyone would be better than Cooper last season and look what happened, also if we are tight on PSR I'd rather money was used on signing a player or 2 then sacking a manager and his staff leaving the new boss with the same underperforming idiots

[BrilliantFox]

7 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Marti isn't the problem he has actually done more good than bad.

 

 

Sure he has, is that why he's being outperformed by no-named EFL managers in this league with much less talent than us?

 

Our players keep saving this fella's job right when he's on his last game and you keep being fooled by it.

Edited 30 December 2025 by BrilliantFox

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, BrilliantFox said:

 

Sure he has, is that why he's being outperformed by no-named efl managers in this league with much less talent than us?

 

Our players keep saving this fella's job right when he's on his last game and you keep being fooled by it.

You're living in a dream ser 

[Pliskin]

27 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

If he keeps us up after a points deduction, has he failed?

Anything other than promotion for us is a massive failure, regardless of our current state. So yes, he would have failed, but he in term would have been failed by the board. 
 

So in essence the whole operation would have failed!

[winteriscoming]

Just now, whoareyaaa said:

Any manager would fair the same we are under a rebuild bring through youth with no recognizable striker after losing the greatest of them all.

Should have started bringing thru the youth at the start of the season instead of waiting 20+ games to do so and doing it as a last resort. 
I’m not saying I’m completely against Cifuentes but I just don’t think he helps himself at times. 
 

[BrilliantFox]

1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

You're living in a dream ser 

4-0 down at half-time to QPR mate, Cifuentes masterclass.

 

This is the reality. You can hope and pray all you want, the man is a failure and a coward.

Edited 30 December 2025 by BrilliantFox

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, winteriscoming said:

Should have started bringing thru the youth at the start of the season instead of waiting 20+ games to do so and doing it as a last resort. 
I’m not saying I’m completely against Cifuentes but I just don’t think he helps himself at times. 
 

Rudkin and Top would have advised to keep them involved surely you know this by now ?

 

Marti flipped the switch like Ruud 

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, BrilliantFox said:

4-0 down at half-time to QPR mate, Cifuentes masterclass.

 

This is the reality. You can hope and pray all you want, the man is a failure and a coward.

Yep reality is we are in a rebuild, lost 5 first team players replaced them with James, one of them being the best player we have ever had, we don't have a striker.

 

that's the reality.

[two8two]

Marti has stumbled on the benefits of using the academy players let’s hope he sticks with them. Talk of changing managers is redundant as we can’t afford to sack Marti anyway.

[BrilliantFox]

2 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Yep reality is we are in a rebuild, lost 5 first team players replaced them with James, one of them being the best player we have ever had, we don't have a striker.

 

None of your excuses warrant being 4-0 down at half-time to a bus stop in West London.