Gary Rowett

[filbertway]

20 minutes ago, HP1 said:

To make up the 14 point gap to finish 10th we would have to win about 11 out of the last 14. That is just not happening to a side who has lost 6 out of the last 7 and has no goalscorer. 

 

17 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

We’ve lost 8 out of the last 14. Only 2 teams in the 92 have conceded more than us. We have no goalscorers. 
 

I’ll have what you’re smoking! 

 

Fair, but even without "goalscorers" we have scored 44, which is 11th highest and a goal or two from top 8 scorers in the league. And that's playing under a gaffer that's had us spending entire halves without trying to attack.

 

Not that Rowett is Bielsa

 

Anyway my pre season prediction was 4-10th so purely because of that I had to go up to 10th with my prediction. Realistically I think 13-16th is doable. There's generally not a lot between 10th and 16th though.

 

I'm basing a lot of this on the hopes that Rowett is first and foremost a decent man manager who can get the players onboard and buying in. Secondly I'd expect to be a lot more hard to beat. And we've proven we can score goals. Even with Ayew and Daka being our front men.

 

Mukasa, Fatawu and James are about to bust some sh*t wide open! 

I'm buzzing for these posts to be quoted when we go down having scored 8 more goals and picking up 7 points

 

[FoxesTalker]

12 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

He focused on the job that needs to be done, and he seemed very clear minded about that. Why would you want him to witter on about our history?

 

As has already been pointed out, Rowett has a strong track record of getting wins on the board quickly when he starts a new job. Personally I'm glad he's 100% focused on that rather than trying to butter up the fans by talking about the club's history.

The interview didn’t seem very natural to me, and I haven’t come away with a great deal of confidence from it (albeit that’s hard anyway at the moment). I still say it was remiss of him not to even give a mention of the club’s history, but that’s also on the interviewer in fairness.

[Sly Blue Fox]

I think we'll scrape survival with him, won't be attractive but who cares at this stage 

[Richmondfox]

3 hours ago, Pliskin said:

He prefers senior players…. I’ll be over the moon if he doesn’t, but I can’t see him not to being with.

Hope he doesn’t subscribe to the view that senior = good/experienced/insert cliché.  He should be asking the seniors how they got in this mess, and then play them back their season highlights on a giant screen. 
 

Ayew is a great example to young men that anyone can become a millionaire. 

[Xen]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

Genuinely not concerned one bit about relegation with Rowett in.

 

Our goals scored is higher than Millwall who occupy 5th place. When he was sacked, Oxford had conceded the same amount of goals as us. As much as we love dumping on the squad, there's 100% more talent here than he had there.

 

I reckon he has us finish somewhere between 10th and 16th. If I want to make an outrageous call, I wouldn't be shocked to see some of the more emotionally extreme fans here will even talk about the possibility of play offs at some points  

I think we'll see an upturn of form, but...

 

6th place typically requires ~70pts. Last season was an anomaly with 66pts being enough.

We're on 32 currently, so we'd need to earn 38 out of the 42 available points to get there. Even Champions-level form wouldn't be enough -  2.2ppg only gets us up to 62.

 

On the flip side, 50pts is almost always safe... but one relegation spot is already confirmed and the other teams around us are doing OK at the moment, so I imagine the safe point is going to be on the higher end this year. Our recent form will see us struggle, but a handful of wins and things are looking a bit healthier...

[Claridge]

15 minutes ago, Xen said:

I think we'll see an upturn of form, but...

 

6th place typically requires ~70pts. Last season was an anomaly with 66pts being enough.

We're on 32 currently, so we'd need to earn 38 out of the 42 available points to get there. Even Champions-level form wouldn't be enough -  2.2ppg only gets us up to 62.

 

On the flip side, 50pts is almost always safe... but one relegation spot is already confirmed and the other teams around us are doing OK at the moment, so I imagine the safe point is going to be on the higher end this year. Our recent form will see us struggle, but a handful of wins and things are looking a bit healthier...

premier league have appealed against us only getting 6 point deduction

[Bob Weasel Fox]

6 minutes ago, Claridge said:

premier league have appealed against us only getting 6 point deduction

The Premier League  can go and fvck themselves 

[filbertway]

26 minutes ago, Xen said:

I think we'll see an upturn of form, but...

 

6th place typically requires ~70pts. Last season was an anomaly with 66pts being enough.

We're on 32 currently, so we'd need to earn 38 out of the 42 available points to get there. Even Champions-level form wouldn't be enough -  2.2ppg only gets us up to 62.

 

On the flip side, 50pts is almost always safe... but one relegation spot is already confirmed and the other teams around us are doing OK at the moment, so I imagine the safe point is going to be on the higher end this year. Our recent form will see us struggle, but a handful of wins and things are looking a bit healthier...

Yeah the outrageous play off shout was me poking fun at the members who's opinions violently change based on the last result really

 

If he's the man manager I think he is and is able to sort out our appalling defensive record, even with our lack of competent strikers, we clearly have goals in the team. Hard not to see us surging up the table if he has buy in from the players. 

 

His interview sounded decent, didn't really detect much in the way of corportate rubbish/boll*cks or pandering to the fans. Seems focused on getting the players on side and putting the challenge on them to get us out of this position.

 

I've learned not to get too carried away by words, but I did like that he said something along the lines of "we can do all the talking we want, but match days are what matter".

 

I've not felt this optimistic in a while, so I'm gonna try and chase this feeling for a week. Actually looking forward to watching the game in the pub on Saturday now haha.

[Xen]

9 minutes ago, Claridge said:

premier league have appealed against us only getting 6 point deduction

Most teams are hovering just above 1PPG so 50pts feels like a reasonable best-guess at safety.

 

If the 6pt deduction gets doubled (which I believe is worst-case scenario) then we'll be down to 26 points and our PPG for the season so far (based on 38pts earned) would see us finish on 42.2pts overall.

 

To get to 50pts we'd need 24/14= 1.7ppg, which is equivalent to 78pts over a full season - so play-off form needed to survive.

As it stands, 50pts requires 18/14 = 1.29ppg, equivalent to 59pts over a full season - midtable form.

 

Both are attainable with the current ability of the squad.

The current attitude of the squad, however...

 

 

[Terraloon]

2 hours ago, filbertway said:

Genuinely not concerned one bit about relegation with Rowett in.

 

Our goals scored is higher than Millwall who occupy 5th place. When he was sacked, Oxford had conceded the same amount of goals as us. As much as we love dumping on the squad, there's 100% more talent here than he had there.

 

I reckon he has us finish somewhere between 10th and 16th. If I want to make an outrageous call, I wouldn't be shocked to see some of the more emotionally extreme fans here will even talk about the possibility of play offs at some points  

Bear in mind that he was in charge for effectively 12 months at Oxford and in the 50 games in that 12 months the win rate was 28%.His total career has yielded a 39.8% win ratio . 
 

At this point in time talent alone won’t be cut the mustard what will secure safety is guts, determination and dare I say experience.I actually think that the younger players who so many have faith could be negatively exposed to the point where it could damage then going forward.

 

LC have  at this point in time let the second most goals in and those defensive issues won’t be sorted with the same personnel. 

 

 

[Trent Steel]

im past caring anymore, but he will have my full support and I hope he keeps us up 

[Trent Steel]

1 hour ago, Xen said:

I think we'll see an upturn of form, but...

 

6th place typically requires ~70pts. Last season was an anomaly with 66pts being enough.

We're on 32 currently, so we'd need to earn 38 out of the 42 available points to get there. Even Champions-level form wouldn't be enough -  2.2ppg only gets us up to 62.

 

On the flip side, 50pts is almost always safe... but one relegation spot is already confirmed and the other teams around us are doing OK at the moment, so I imagine the safe point is going to be on the higher end this year. Our recent form will see us struggle, but a handful of wins and things are looking a bit healthier...

we can forget top 6

we are in a relegation battle now

[filbertway]

14 minutes ago, Terraloon said:

Bear in mind that he was in charge for effectively 12 months at Oxford and in the 50 games in that 12 months the win rate was 28%.His total career has yielded a 39.8% win ratio . 
 

At this point in time talent alone won’t be cut the mustard what will secure safety is guts, determination and dare I say experience.I actually think that the younger players who so many have faith could be negatively exposed to the point where it could damage then going forward.

 

LC have  at this point in time let the second most goals in and those defensive issues won’t be sorted with the same personnel. 

 

 

We shall see! He seems like the kind of geezer you can get behind. Nelson was with him at Oxford albeit for a short while.

 

Looks like he started 8 games under Rowett. 3 clean sheets. With 7 conceded in 8 and 9 scored.

 

Like I have said, I think a lot hinges on the things hes mentioned in his interview snd things youve mentioned. A lot of the issues with this team at this level are mental.

 

A back to basics manager who knows how to talk to people and make them feel positive will be a big plus.

 

Hopefully Rowett is that man.

 

Very interested to see how we look on Saturday 

[Dames]

3 hours ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

Ah yes - Gary Rowett - a manager renowned for front foot football.

 

Seriously, what is this post?
 

Are you so desperate to show your King Power Out credentials to the rest of the group that you have to make up any old rubbish to ‘slate’ Rudkin and Top?

Was just responding to what a lot of other posters were saying actually.
 

But i’ll bite… Do you think Steve Cooper was renowned as a possession coach? Yet when he was here we literally played that stupid style. 

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Terraloon said:

Bear in mind that he was in charge for effectively 12 months at Oxford and in the 50 games in that 12 months the win rate was 28%.His total career has yielded a 39.8% win ratio . 
 

At this point in time talent alone won’t be cut the mustard what will secure safety is guts, determination and dare I say experience.I actually think that the younger players who so many have faith could be negatively exposed to the point where it could damage then going forward.

 

LC have  at this point in time let the second most goals in and those defensive issues won’t be sorted with the same personnel. 

 

 

Bear in mind we don’t care what he does over a longer period, its a short term fix that is needed from him.

 

He has pretty good pedigree for turning teams around short term as per this screenshot.

 

Edited 19 February by coolhandfox

[Free Falling Foxes]

Just now, coolhandfox said:

Bear in mind we don’t care what he does over a longer period, its a short term fix that is need from him.

 

He has pretty good pedigree for turning teams around short term as per this screenshot

 

Watch us be the exception..

[coolhandfox]

Just now, Free Falling Foxes said:

Watch us be the exception..

Could be.....

[Philkeavo]

17 hours ago, Katy said:

Those pair of idiots would probably think he means the fans or something, could never be them. 

Definitely us on FoxesTalk 😹 

[Foxin_Mad]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Bear in mind we don’t care what he does over a longer period, its a short term fix that is needed from him.

 

He has pretty good pedigree for turning teams around short term as per this screenshot.

 

If he could do 2 losses in the next 14 that would be ideal

[AjcW]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Bear in mind we don’t care what he does over a longer period, its a short term fix that is needed from him.

 

He has pretty good pedigree for turning teams around short term as per this screenshot.

 

Why did they change the wording on the Millwall one? His record of winning 9 out of 16 is brilliant! 

 

Or from our perspective he won 8 in 14! 

[Foxin_Mad]

I still think there is a chance sides like Swansea, even Stoke get dragged into the mess if they dont turn around their form, we just need to concentrate on being less shit, which sounds easy! 

[Rubbersoul]

I just want to be hard to beat. Feels like ages since we’ve been an actual test for teams.  
 

(second half of Enzo’s season we dropped off a cliff)

[lgfualol]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Bear in mind we don’t care what he does over a longer period, its a short term fix that is needed from him.

 

He has pretty good pedigree for turning teams around short term as per this screenshot.

 

God I hope he can actually give us a bounce. When was the last time we had a proper bounce midway through a season, with Rodgers? 

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, AjcW said:

Why did they change the wording on the Millwall one? His record of winning 9 out of 16 is brilliant! 

 

Or from our perspective he won 8 in 14! 

Yeah thats odd.

[JimJams]

Presumably just thought that 2 losses in 16 games sounded more impressive.