QPR Saturday 14th March 3pm (H) Protest - Unite for change

[Gamble92]

4 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

The only down side to us beating Bristol City is that the happy clappers are back out in force on social media saying we shouldn't be protesting because the players need us behind them. Bit thick aren't they, its not the players people are protesting against, its the useless owner and board, and even though none of them would admit it, the players probably understand why people are protesting. 

 

It shows their mentality that a win against a very poor Bristol City side now means we should all be happy again and let Top carry on destroying the club. 

When anyone asks how the decline has been allowed to happen you only need to look at those type of people after a result like this. 

 

Enablers

[Pita]

11 hours ago, Vindaloo FOX said:

Massive game, must win !! 

We are so up and down stands a good chance we will lose. 

[LCFCJohn]

3 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

It's scary the amount of supposed grown ups can't read or comprehend simple sentences explaining what they're looking at. Another terrifying aspect is the amount of grown men and women that simply can't or won't accept that others have a different opinion to their own circles. Damning indictment of society as a whole really. 

Basically it’s a case of ‘you don’t speak for me as I don’t agree with your view but I speak for everyone else with mine’. So little self awareness and irony.

[LCFCJohn]

2 hours ago, Reg Vardy said:

Your assumption “many of the KPFC fans just don’t really know much about football” actually says more about the protesters than the people happy clapping in numbers last night. Sorry, but what is your rationale, as I cannot see where your justification for such a comment comes from….

Probably comes from the fact there is no sound argument for them holding such strong views. It is always lazy cliches like be careful what you wish for, accusing people wanting change of only being around since 2016 (absolute BS) and physically and verbally attacking those sharing the opposite view. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, NextPlease said:

That’s ironic being posted on here, when anybody speaking as not supporting the protest is labelled KPFC

 

Totally agree with your post above, but it does apply to supporters of the protest too

"KPFC" is extremely tame compared to what the outers have been labelled. Graham Brock called UFS the "Union Fascist Supporters" ffs.

 

Plus the point about the physical violence that's already been stated.

Edited 11 March by Sol thewall Bamba

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, NextPlease said:

That’s ironic being posted on here, when anybody speaking as not supporting the protest is labelled KPFC

 

Totally agree with your post above, but it does apply to supporters of the protest too

KPFC is not an insulting term but one to describe those who put KP ahead of the club. It’s an accurate descriptive term. As has been said above this, it’s tame compared to the abuse received towards those who are vocal against the running of the club.

 

As also mentioned, the former have physically assaulted the latter in the stands. 
 

Supporters are entitled to peacefully protest and vocalise dissatisfaction at the running of the club but it seems that a number of supporters can’t handle this and resort to physical and verbal abuse including on social media to those peacefully making a point.

[CosbehFox]

17 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

Basically it’s a case of ‘you don’t speak for me as I don’t agree with your view but I speak for everyone else with mine’. So little self awareness and irony.

Which makes the comments about numbers on protests and survey responses very mute given it’s the same names on Facebook popping up 

[CosbehFox]

It’s universally agreed that the club need to make structural changes and universally agreed that Rudkin needs to be gone.
 

One of the latter isn’t gone. So that’s a point agreed amongst the fanbase 

 

Equally does anyone think the club would have done changes without protest? 
 

The club have been told vocally about the need for change, about the replacement of Rudkin in stands and in most FAB/FCC meetings. A good cop and a bad cop alliance almost. 
 

Honrstly I think without the bad cop, the changes don’t happen, the club continues as it is. The changes were forced by protest 

[NextPlease]

5 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

It’s universally agreed that the club need to make structural changes and universally agreed that Rudkin needs to be gone.
 

One of the latter isn’t gone. So that’s a point agreed amongst the fanbase 

 

Equally does anyone think the club would have done changes without protest? 
 

The club have been told vocally about the need for change, about the replacement of Rudkin in stands and in most FAB/FCC meetings. A good cop and a bad cop alliance almost. 
 

Honrstly I think without the bad cop, the changes don’t happen, the club continues as it is. The changes were forced by protest 

I don't think the bad cop part was needed, but those not believing in the Fan Engagement Framework won't agree with me, mainly because the changes took so long from first raised in FAB/FCC meetings

[CosbehFox]

27 minutes ago, NextPlease said:

I don't think the bad cop part was needed, but those not believing in the Fan Engagement Framework won't agree with me, mainly because the changes took so long from first raised in FAB/FCC meetings

In which case why did it take so long? 
 

Pretty terminal decision making process which has at times been delayed way too long. For example, the sacking of Ruud and the hire of Marti. Whelan’s notice would have ran for months and it’s taken this long to appoint a replacement (which would have been longer had they appointed someone from a different club). 
 

It’s been pushed along by the growing vocal discontent which more decisively gave greater media presence to the whole situation. The West Brom game in particular must have stung 

Edited 12 March by CosbehFox

[Officer Doofy]

Lazio fans showing how it's done. 

 

Great boycott 

[Guppys Love Child]

20 minutes ago, Officer Doofy said:

Lazio fans showing how it's done. 

 

Great boycott 

Unfortunately the happy clapping KPFC brigade are more than content with the current state of the club and how the tw@t's at the top are 'running it'.

 

In their eyes Top and KP can do no wrong, and they don't see or feel the need to challenge anything or anyone at the club, and are happy to just clap and therefore condone the numerous sh1t performances whilst hiding behind the "just back the team" excuse. 

 

Logic dictates this must be the case, or like the many on here campaigning for a positive change they would actually have to admit there is (backed up by well documented facts in the media) a problem and actively do something to change the situation

 

Until our divided fan base are all singing from the same songsheet with the common goal of ousting The Nepo Baby and his KP creche minders we will never get the boycott's or protests mirroring Lazio or even Sheffield.

[Corky]

Just be glad that Vichai spoke openly about wanting to get into Europe and didn't listen to those supporters who believe we should exist in the bottom half of the second division. Did he have entitlement?

[Sol thewall Bamba]

3 minutes ago, Corky said:

Just be glad that Vichai spoke openly about wanting to get into Europe and didn't listen to those supporters who believe we should exist in the bottom half of the second division. Did he have entitlement?

He should have been careful what he wished for.

[LCFCJohn]

I was just interested to get a feel for our wider league performance over the decades based on a post from @Pliskinyesterday. 
 

Essentially we have been in the Champions League (or equivalent) once after the title win. The same amount of times (once) that we have been in League 1. Statistically exactly the same so anyone saying we should accept relegation to L1 but thinking we could qualify for the CL again is entitled is talking nonsense as both have happened once. We shouldn’t expect either. Both are freak events that we shouldn’t expect (CL) or accept (L1).

 

I had a look at how close we had been for both. I.e if we’d never come close to the top spots in the top tier but continually avoided relegation to the 3rd tier by the skin of our teeth I’d think the once in each stat was a bit misleading.

 

This is a quick look through our league finishes and this side of WW1 as it is a bit messy before that. There have also been changes to the amount of teams in a league so might not be entirely accurate but evidences enough what I was looking at.

 

Top flight top 5 finishes - so close shaves with the CL or would have if it’d had been a thing back when! 

2016 - 1st

2020 and 2021 - 5th x 2

1963 - 4th

1927 and 1928 - 2nd and 3rd 

 

So 6 x top 5 finishes in the top tier.

 

We have had a further 14 seasons in 6th-10th place so current top half PL.

 

Bottom 5 positions in tier 2 - to balance with the above top fight top 5 finishes. 

2008 - 22nd of 24

1991 - 22nd of 24 - survived due to league restructure 

1949 and 1986 - 19th of 22

 

So 4 bottom 5 second tier finishes to our 6 top 5 top flight ones. 
 

To compare with the 14 top half (6th-10th) finishes, I noticed 3 seasons plus the run from 2005-2007 finishing in the bottom 6-10 of the second tier. So 6 of these to 14 equivalently placed finishes in the top flight.

 

So basically, L1 and CL equally unlikely. But we have been historically more likely to finish in the higher positions in the top flight than the lower positions in the second tier.

 

Hopefully that can debunk the myth and propaganda peddled by KP that we should accept what we are seeing now and it definitely isn’t ’where we have always been’!

[Foxy-Lady]

11 hours ago, Guppys Love Child said:

Unfortunately the happy clapping KPFC brigade are more than content with the current state of the club and how the tw@t's at the top are 'running it'.

 

In their eyes Top and KP can do no wrong, and they don't see or feel the need to challenge anything or anyone at the club, and are happy to just clap and therefore condone the numerous sh1t performances whilst hiding behind the "just back the team" excuse. 

 

Logic dictates this must be the case, or like the many on here campaigning for a positive change they would actually have to admit there is (backed up by well documented facts in the media) a problem and actively do something to change the situation

 

Until our divided fan base are all singing from the same songsheet with the common goal of ousting The Nepo Baby and his KP creche minders we will never get the boycott's or protests mirroring Lazio or even Sheffield.

"In life, what you tolerate, you validate...!"     

 

I cant think of any other explanation for their mentality...

 

[NextPlease]

1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said:

I was just interested to get a feel for our wider league performance over the decades based on a post from @Pliskinyesterday. 
 

Essentially we have been in the Champions League (or equivalent) once after the title win. The same amount of times (once) that we have been in League 1. Statistically exactly the same so anyone saying we should accept relegation to L1 but thinking we could qualify for the CL again is entitled is talking nonsense as both have happened once. We shouldn’t expect either. Both are freak events that we shouldn’t expect (CL) or accept (L1).

 

I had a look at how close we had been for both. I.e if we’d never come close to the top spots in the top tier but continually avoided relegation to the 3rd tier by the skin of our teeth I’d think the once in each stat was a bit misleading.

 

This is a quick look through our league finishes and this side of WW1 as it is a bit messy before that. There have also been changes to the amount of teams in a league so might not be entirely accurate but evidences enough what I was looking at.

 

 

Top flight top 5 finishes - so close shaves with the CL or would have if it’d had been a thing back when! 

2016 - 1st

2020 and 2021 - 5th x 2

1963 - 4th

1927 and 1928 - 2nd and 3rd 

 

So 6 x top 5 finishes in the top tier.

 

We have had a further 14 seasons in 6th-10th place so current top half PL.

 

Bottom 5 positions in tier 2 - to balance with the above top fight top 5 finishes. 

2008 - 22nd of 24

1991 - 22nd of 24 - survived due to league restructure 

1949 and 1986 - 19th of 22

 

So 4 bottom 5 second tier finishes to our 6 top 5 top flight ones. 
 

To compare with the 14 top half (6th-10th) finishes, I noticed 3 seasons plus the run from 2005-2007 finishing in the bottom 6-10 of the second tier. So 6 of these to 14 equivalently placed finishes in the top flight.

 

So basically, L1 and CL equally unlikely. But we have been historically more likely to finish in the higher positions in the top flight than the lower positions in the second tier.

 

Hopefully that can debunk the myth and propaganda peddled by KP that we should accept what we are seeing now and it definitely isn’t ’where we have always been’!

I think those stating we have “returned to normal” would consider us more of a “yo yo” club switching between the top & second tier, 

 

So, yes position wise this is a poor season, but being in the 2nd tier isn’t unusual, so for instance we had a long spell in tier 2 prior to staying up in the “great escape” season.

 

 

[Fox92]

12 hours ago, Officer Doofy said:

Lazio fans showing how it's done. 

 

Great boycott 

Great boycott indeed but would never happen in England. We're a bootlicking nation.

[Pliskin]

6 minutes ago, NextPlease said:

I think those stating we have “returned to normal” would consider us more of a “yo yo” club switching between the top & second tier, 

 

So, yes position wise this is a poor season, but being in the 2nd tier isn’t unusual, so for instance we had a long spell in tier 2 prior to staying up in the “great escape” season.

 

 

But, that was a different era for the club, the financial gain this club has had over the last decade means we can’t draw comparisons to times of old V now. We’ve elite level money come through the club in this time, which changes everything, changes the very fibres the club was forged on….. but we’ve abused it, not nurtured it hence why we are here. 
 

We had an opportunity to secure the future of this football club in terms of a top flight competitor…. But we ****ed it. 

[LCFCJohn]

8 minutes ago, NextPlease said:

I think those stating we have “returned to normal” would consider us more of a “yo yo” club switching between the top & second tier, 

 

So, yes position wise this is a poor season, but being in the 2nd tier isn’t unusual, so for instance we had a long spell in tier 2 prior to staying up in the “great escape” season.

 

 

Well that’s a lazy way of looking at it by these people then because we aren’t getting anywhere near the PL again for some time. More chance we yo-yo between L1 and Championship.

 

Our longest run of seasons outside the top flight was the 10 years from 2004-2014 and before that 12 years either side of WW1. Otherwise there were a run of 8 and 7. Not like we have spent years after years consistently outside the top flight.

 

I’d be amazed if we don’t break that 12 season streak this time, dating back to as I say, WW1 era. 

[Pliskin]

On 11/03/2026 at 16:22, Reg Vardy said:

Your assumption “many of the KPFC fans just don’t really know much about football” actually says more about the protesters than the people happy clapping in numbers last night. Sorry, but what is your rationale, as I cannot see where your justification for such a comment comes from….

It’s by and large true though. I have quite a few “KPFC” fans who sit around me, and they genuinely outside of Leicester city haven’t got a scooby ****ing doo. There’s a nosey bastard who sits in front of me, can’t keep his beak out of anyone’s conversations, and he genuinely knows nothing. Sits here all game just shouting “get it forward” when there’s none one “forward”….. 

 

It might sound like a spiteful dig, but unfortunately it is a fact, that’s not anyone fault, I think it’s a factor of being a one club City and sharing the city with a successful rugby team, we share a lot of fans also which again, can have an impact on the type of fan we get at the KP. 
 

But generally speaking, the KPFC fans I have personally met, know very little about the wider game of football. 

[1884HF]

55 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

It’s by and large true though. I have quite a few “KPFC” fans who sit around me, and they genuinely outside of Leicester city haven’t got a scooby ****ing doo. There’s a nosey bastard who sits in front of me, can’t keep his beak out of anyone’s conversations, and he genuinely knows nothing. Sits here all game just shouting “get it forward” when there’s none one “forward”….. 

 

It might sound like a spiteful dig, but unfortunately it is a fact, that’s not anyone fault, I think it’s a factor of being a one club City and sharing the city with a successful rugby team, we share a lot of fans also which again, can have an impact on the type of fan we get at the KP. 
 

But generally speaking, the KPFC fans I have personally met, know very little about the wider game of football. 

personally I don't think these kpfc fans are true normal match going football people you know

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, NextPlease said:

I think those stating we have “returned to normal” would consider us more of a “yo yo” club switching between the top & second tier, 

 

So, yes position wise this is a poor season, but being in the 2nd tier isn’t unusual, so for instance we had a long spell in tier 2 prior to staying up in the “great escape” season.

 

 

I’ll be honest the ‘return to normal’ rankles with me because it’s not ambitious. It doesn’t acknowledge that the club in the last thirty years has been greatly successful compared to larger clubs. 
 

Twice in my lifetime we’ve had periods of upsetting the apple cart in terms of footballing hierarchy. 
 

Aim high. Be ambitious. This is a huge city and a huge catchment area. The game of roulette being played by the ownership which risks significant impact to the city and its economy (as well its own staff) just isn’t acceptable. 
 

We are easily in the 25 biggest clubs within the country 

[beepee1984]

4 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

I’ll be honest the ‘return to normal’ rankles with me because it’s not ambitious. It doesn’t acknowledge that the club in the last thirty years has been greatly successful compared to larger clubs. 
 

Twice in my lifetime we’ve had periods of upsetting the apple cart in terms of footballing hierarchy. 
 

Aim high. Be ambitious. This is a huge city and a huge catchment area. The game of roulette being played by the ownership which risks significant impact to the city and its economy (as well its own staff) just isn’t acceptable. 
 

We are easily in the 25 biggest clubs within the country 

I have no problem returning to normal, Leicester has been a fun and at times frustrating side to support.

 

I do however have a problem with people thinking this is the normal... we were in League one attitude. As you say we are a decent size club who should always aim to be ambtious

 

Our normal is bottom half of the top flight, putting up a hell of a fight week in week out - the foxes never quit attitude or the top half of the 2nd flight fighting for promotion.

 

We should not be in a position where we are fighting relegation in the Championship and although this is the first season out of my Leicester Normal for a while - our last two relegations we did not see the fight or the passion from the players we have in relegation battles of the past and for a lot of this season that mentality has been presence. This mentality should have been stamped out from the club, but it stems from the top down - reaction to relegation last season was "we promote next year" as if it was a given and would just happen without anyone having to work for it

 

Oh - this is the match thread - so I'll add we were much improved against Bristol City so same again, I would prefer Mukasa in for Reid and to line up as two number 8s (James & Mukasa) instead of two number 6s (James & Skipp)

[NextPlease]

Agree with the 25 biggest clubs, but that could still mean we are in a Tier 2 play off position, but then “smaller” clubs can break the mould, as we have done against the “big 6”

 

Any realist would acknowledge our PL win was achieved during a perfect storm where all the “top clubs” had an off year. Albeit fans of other clubs fail to remember our title win included a clear points gap to second place.

 

We have had a bad season & hopefully won’t be relegated, if we stay in the division I don’t follow the doom thinking of an extended spell not competing for promotion to the PLfor a number of years.

 

I didn’t believe at the beginning of the season that we would go back up this season & it did require a 2 - 3 season complete re build to create a new team that had a good chance of then staying in the PL once promoted