Rot started when

[Twitcher]

Bloomfield left.

[Parker Pen]

49 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

The thing about rot is that it starts long before it becomes visible. Most of these examples are when it became visible.

 

There were two levels of rot that started:

 

1. When Rudkin was appointed football director and when Pearson was sacked later that season. Rudkin was always an incompetent, purely administrative director of football that initially performed ok because he didn't get in the way of the competent people around him. Pearson was the one who originally put that competency in place and without him there was no one to maintain it.

 

2. When Rodgers was apponted and dismantled the remaining competency within the club. Rodgers brought in Congerton which led to rubbish signings and got rid of David Rennie which led to a pile up of injuries. Most of the club's best scouts left during the Rodgers era as well. As other's mentioned he also set the "we shouldn't even be here mentality".

 

When that surrounding competency was dismantled from around Rudkin and the remainders of the Premier League winning squad moved on there was no one left to set standards anymore and it all fell apart.

Spot on!

[Clever Fox]

29 minutes ago, 21st Century Fox said:

Let’s be honest it was the Vichai’s passing. I don’t for a second think it would be all rosey now had that not occurred but I don’t believe  Rudkin would have the power he now has.

 

I just don’t believe Vichai would keep a manager like Brendan in the job while he’s poisoning the well like he did.
 

Top relying on Rudkin >

Rudkin devolving power to Brendan and Congerton has absolutely led to this fall.

 

We’re essentially waiting for blind luck to land on another Maresca just to pull us out of this nose dive. We won’t recover until KP and Rudkin are gone.

The Accident was the single worst thing that could have happened the Club. 

The whole dynamic changed at KP. 

Now you have Vichai's wife running the Company with no business experience and supported by sons and Daughters. 

Who I suspect have no interest in Football whatsoever and in Leicester City football club. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

As soon as Awaytaytity took over.

[trabuch]

Helicopter tragedy

[Corky]

Aiyawatt taking over them Rodgers being given power. A bloke who isn't good enough and a bloke who couldn't care less.

 

The bloke who couldn't care less even called out the bloke who isn't good enough and still remained in charge. We stopped being a serious club then.

[evil jack]

56 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

The thing about rot is that it starts long before it becomes visible. Most of these examples are when it became visible.

 

There were two levels of rot that started:

 

1. When Rudkin was appointed football director and when Pearson was sacked later that season. Rudkin was always an incompetent, purely administrative director of football that initially performed ok because he didn't get in the way of the competent people around him. Pearson was the one who originally put that competency in place and without him there was no one to maintain it.

 

2. When Rodgers was apponted and dismantled the remaining competency within the club. Rodgers brought in Congerton which led to rubbish signings and got rid of David Rennie which led to a pile up of injuries. Most of the club's best scouts left during the Rodgers era as well. As other's mentioned he also set the "we shouldn't even be here mentality".

 

When that surrounding competency was dismantled from around Rudkin and the remainders of the Premier League winning squad moved on there was no one left to set standards anymore and it all fell apart.

I was gonna say helicopter crash, but I think this is more accurate.

 

[CrazyKopCorner]

1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

Pains me to say it, but when we started playing When you're smiling before kick-off.

 

Actually, I noticed something was very wrong when West Ham beat us 4-1 at the London Stadium the season we finished 8th. Hammers fans behaved like they had thrashed one on the top 6, and we behaved like potential relegation candidates all season. We had just lost Fofana to injury and there was a huge frailty in the team. So i think it started in the preseason after the FA Cup win.

That was the night I always think of. West Ham 4 Leicester 1 

 

There was something wrong. How passive we played, how we allowed them to continually send crosses into the box without challenge, how easily we were bullied on and off the ball etc etc 

 

For me it was more than a poor performance and I realise we were down to 10 men for much of the game but it was the flick of a switch moment .

 

That's really interesting we both pinpoint the same moment 

Edited 18 April by CrazyKopCorner

[LCFCJohn]

It was genuinely the summer of 2016 after the title. 
 

Recruitment shifted from that moment. Walsh left, Pearson was gone. The set up behind the scenes started to be lost bit by bit from that moment. Large contracts started being given out and the fist signings that were shelled out for and left for free like Slimani were made. That was followed up with 14 seconds late gate the summer after. Remember we ended up sacking managers the 3 seasons after the title for being in various degrees of a relegation battle, Ranieri in 2017 the worst. 2017/18 season Shakespeare was in October so probably too early to say but still was a bit start. 
 

Although recruitment picked up under Puel, looking back, the technical side of the players brought in was good but they never had the same strengths mentally as those we signed up to 2016. Maddison, Ricardo, Evans etc all good players but the problems with lack of leaders and lack of mentality have continued not to be there, hence falling apart in 2020 and 2021. All the time, the set up behind the scenes was getting further from what had brought us success.

 

So it might sound dramatic, but the problems we are seeing play out now, you can trace back to then.

[J. James]

For me it's keeping Rodgers for way too long,should have gone after the Notts Forest debacle, and paying massively high wages with no provision for changing circumstances- such as relegation!

 

Frankly the art is to find hidden talent like Kante, Mahrez,Vards etc, any fool can sign mediocre or poor players for crazy high wages.

These things lay at the doors of two talentless, inept people - we know who they are.

[Nods]

So not a single person read the OP then 😂

[Foxdiamond]

January 2022 losing to Spurs after being 2-1 up after 94 minutes. 

[CornwallFox]

1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

Pains me to say it, but when we started playing When you're smiling before kick-off.

 

Actually, I noticed something was very wrong when West Ham beat us 4-1 at the London Stadium the season we finished 8th. Hammers fans behaved like they had thrashed one on the top 6, and we behaved like potential relegation candidates all season. We had just lost Fofana to injury and there was a huge frailty in the team. So i think it started in the preseason after the FA Cup win.

I absolutely hate the version of when you're smiling that has played the last few times I've been there. Presume it hasn't changed this season. Slow and turgid, nothing like how it was sung in the stands in the past.

[Foxdiamond]

5 minutes ago, Nods said:

So not a single person read the OP then 😂

Like a lot of things rot sets in long before the edifice actually collapses 

[CornwallFox]

I think Rodgers was probably right that the squad needing freshening the second time we just missed out on champions league. We are incredible for half that season.

 

But then the club weren't honest about their limitations at the same time as Rodgers let schmeical go, froze out soyuncu and nothing has been right since. It was that summer. Poor recruitment, a squad a season too far on, a manager that wanted out and we've never recovered. 

[Corky]

6 minutes ago, Nods said:

So not a single person read the OP then 😂

Hands up, fair play.

 

Nothing about this season has felt steady. I think that week in December where we managed 7 points and 8 goals in three games against Derby, Bristol City and Ipswich, was our best spell. Faes and Winks removed, Skipp and James linked well, Reid contributed. But then QPR away and all that since.

 

We have never looked convincing.

[foxfanazer]

Probably way before but that Bournemouth game still gives me nightmares. It started with Rodgers though for sure and we've just continually allowed the standards to drop until there are no longer any

Edited 18 April by foxfanazer

[Rubbersoul]

I don’t think it’s when the rot set in but that game against Bournemouth in 19/20 when we were 1-0 up and looking fine, ended up losing 4-1 after we completely capitulated.
 

Pretty sure Bournemouth ended up getting relegated anyway and we ended up missing out on Champions league football. 

 

Just felt like it set the tone for things under Rodgers about how mentally fragile we were and honestly have been ever since. 

[kingfox]

The tide started to turn after that FA Cup defeat to Forest, then the summer of 22/23 was dreadful, Schmeichel left and we replaced Fofana with Faes.

 

We had two perfect windows in that season to sack Rodgers, in September when we found ourselves 20th, then again in January when we found ourselves 15th.

 

But the board didn’t have the balls to sack him, and apart from a season resurgence under Maresca, it’s been pretty much all downhill since 22/23.

[HP1]

When Luis Hernandez left the football club

[cropstonfox]

44 minutes ago, Twitcher said:

Bloomfield left.

He was hounded out,while we were halfway in div 1

[HP1]

1 hour ago, OnlyOneCity said:

When Rodgers started belittling the players and saying we hadn’t got enough quality, when he was trying to get more money from the board. We had Kasper, Vardy, Maddison, Tielemans, Barnes, Albrighton, plenty of quality there. He threw the players under the bus. He should have been sacked then.

Sometimes people speak things in to existence, as Rodgers did with that abhorrent relegation. In a poor season, that squad would be 11th or 12th in the Premier league.

 

I think that happened to some extent this season as well.

[Mr.Bingles]

34 minutes ago, trabuch said:

Helicopter tragedy

Without doubt this was the turning point 

[Balj]

2 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Pains me to say it, but when we started playing When you're smiling before kick-off.

 

Actually, I noticed something was very wrong when West Ham beat us 4-1 at the London Stadium the season we finished 8th. Hammers fans behaved like they had thrashed one on the top 6, and we behaved like potential relegation candidates all season. We had just lost Fofana to injury and there was a huge frailty in the team. So i think it started in the preseason after the FA Cup win.

Agreed on both counts - and that song is a dirge. Bloody awful and needs consigning to the sepia tinged memories of a few. Move on (and my first game was 1973).

[Pita]

37 minutes ago, trabuch said:

Helicopter tragedy

Never recovered after that